BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The important part is this bit: ....Canadian standards for professional soccer written in 1996 have been reviewed recently by the national governing body CSA and a new base line is now being set for the CSL and its teams. The CSL and the Canadian Soccer Association are presently discussing these revised standards, some media reporting of which has lacked accuracy, including the tone of the discussions taking place and suggested course of action by the CSA if the new standards cannot be met. Pino Jazbec, the CSL league administrator, is confident the league will meet the CSA’s necessary requirements for professional soccer, but makes a point that a few CSL clubs for the first time in their history are facing some financial standards that translate into higher cost.... Safe to conclude three things. Firstly, the CSL wants to continue under CSA sanctioning. The probable reasons for that have been explained by VPjr and others previously. Secondly, they do not currently meet the requirements to do so and thirdly, some CSL teams may not be able to make the grade due to higher costs that will be required. It will be interesting to see what unfolds. Given everything was apparently going to be sorted out last week, it looks like they have been given more time to reach some sort of resolution with the CSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 ....Instead, people playing in the team that is close to them geographically (I know, what a radical concept). Inclusive soccer teams where the only "ethnic" identity is "Canadian".... The usual failure by some on here to come to terms with the full implications of multiculturalism is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Safe to conclude three things. Firstly, the CSL wants to continue under CSA sanctioning. The probable reasons for that have been explained by VPjr and others previously. Secondly, they do not currently meet the requirements to do so and thirdly, some CSL teams may not be able to make the grade due to higher costs that will be required. It will be interesting to see what unfolds. Given everything was apparently going to be sorted out last week, it looks like they have been given more time to reach some sort of resolution with the CSA. I can confirm having checked into it that the new owner of London City has much deeper pockets than the Gauss family. Hopefully that's one more club meeting standards by the end of 2012. I'm surprised to find that clubs like White Eagles and TorCro wouldn't be meeting the standards while Shooters would. That's not meant as a knock against Shooters, but you really expect to hear this sort of thing about Astros, City, Wolves, not the perennial contenders with deep roots in their local soccer scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The usual failure by some on here to come to terms with the full implications of multiculturalism is nothing new. I'm with seathanaich on this one. I understand the reasons for clubs based on ethnic affiliations but those clubs will always be limited in their appeal. Not the way for the CSL to go if they wanted to be the de facto nation-wide D3. It seems not even those ethnic communities that are so visible in their support come the World Cup are interested in supporting the clubs that purport to represent their communities. The ethnic-affiliated club is not a useful model at anything beyond the amateur level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Think you are missing my point. Canada is a multicultural society rather than a "melting pot" based on official state policy, so there is no inherent contradiction between being "ethnic" and being "Canadian". Beyond that I think a lot of the angst over this issue is based on peoples' pet fantasies of what they want the CSL to be rather than the reality of what it is. As long as it is semi-pro and open age in format it's going to be a low profile league not that different from a top amateur league like the PCSL that will only of interest to the most hardcore of soccer fans rather than something that is going to have a high media profile and feature regularly on TSN and Rogers Sportsnet sports roundups and the sports pages of major high circulation newspapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Can we please just not do the damned ethnic v. Canadian argument again?? Every f***ing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 No kidding. #GetOverIt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I'm copying and pasting my last post as it was the most recent that was actually on the topic of the CSL and its sanctioning, and not about whether or not "ethnic" clubs should or shouldn't be in the league. Safe to conclude three things. Firstly, the CSL wants to continue under CSA sanctioning. The probable reasons for that have been explained by VPjr and others previously. Secondly, they do not currently meet the requirements to do so and thirdly, some CSL teams may not be able to make the grade due to higher costs that will be required. It will be interesting to see what unfolds. Given everything was apparently going to be sorted out last week, it looks like they have been given more time to reach some sort of resolution with the CSA. I can confirm having checked into it that the new owner of London City has much deeper pockets than the Gauss family. Hopefully that's one more club meeting standards by the end of 2012. I'm surprised to find that clubs like White Eagles and TorCro wouldn't be meeting the standards while Shooters would. That's not meant as a knock against Shooters, but you really expect to hear this sort of thing about Astros, City, Wolves, not the perennial contenders with deep roots in their local soccer scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 From what I've always heard there is no shortage of money in the Gauss family but the people who ran the 1990-2011 incarnation of City as a semi-pro operation were not given full access to it. Any word on the depth of commitment to keeping the team in London on the part of the new guy and whether they will still be playing at the German Club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 From what I've always heard there is no shortage of money in the Gauss family but the people who ran the 1990-2011 incarnation of City as a semi-pro operation were not given full access to it. Any word on the depth of commitment to keeping the team in London on the part of the new guy and whether they will still be playing at the German Club? Nothing yet about that. Once he's assumed a more active role at the club I'm sure answers will be forthcoming. I do plan on hounding management in the meantime about those questions though, so hopefully I'll have some news soon. As for the Cove, I know it's important to remember your roots, but I really hope they move the team to TD Waterhouse, or at the least the Marconi Club. Each time I'm at the German Club for a match I see at least one species of insect that I didn't know existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Spiers Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I was surprised by this comment in the CSL January 25th. press release which I find a little misleading. Canadian standards for professional soccer written in 1996 have been reviewed recently by the national governing body CSA and a new base line is now being set for the CSL and its teams. The CSL and the Canadian Soccer Association are presently discussing these revised standards, some media reporting of which has lacked accuracy, including the tone of the discussions taking place and suggested course of action by the CSA if the new standards cannot be met. Yes ... the previous standards date from 1996 and were due to be revised. However, that revision took place in 2009 with the participation of the CSL. While the CSL felt that the majority of their clubs already met or exceeded most of the new standards, they were concerned that some of the financial measures couldn't be met for 2010. As a result, the CSA agreed to transitional provisions for 2010 with full implementation for 2011. One of the key concerns (as far as I understand) was the Team Player Budget of $75,000.00. The transitional provision for 2010 was for a Team Player Budget of $45,000.00. Clearly, this should come as no surprise to the CSL and their clubs. And I'm a little concerned by the suggestion in the press release that the CSL is now looking for further transitional provisions for 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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