youllneverwalkalone Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Here's who I'd take: Diego Chavez Kosuke Kimura (Caps, how could you not trade for this guy!) Emmanuel Ekpo Kenny Mansally Mehdi Ballouchy Ned Grabovoy Joey Gjertsen Leo Gonzales Soony Saad Adrian Cann (Caps, how could you not trade for this guy!) Probably missed a gem in there somewhere, as will the Impact. Overall, a great selection. http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2011/11/21/mls-clubs-release-expansion-draft-protected-lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Could someone post the draft here. I am at work at the browser does not support the application needed to view the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Here's who I'd take: Diego Chavez Kosuke Kimura (Caps, how could you not trade for this guy!) Emmanuel Ekpo Kenny Mansally Mehdi Ballouchy Ned Grabovoy Joey Gjertsen Leo Gonzales Soony Saad Adrian Cann (Caps, how could you not trade for this guy!) Probably missed a gem in there somewhere, as will the Impact. Overall, a great selection. http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2011/11/21/mls-clubs-release-expansion-draft-protected-lists great list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 The list is here: http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2011/11/23/ching-mapp-headline-montreal-expansion-draft-picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Brian Ching Zarek Valentin Justin Mapp Bobby Burling Collen Warner Jeb Brovsky Josh Gardner Sanna Nyassi James Riley (traded to Chivas for Justin Braun and Gerson Mayern) Seth Sinovic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Brian Ching Zarek Valentin Justin Mapp Bobby Burling Collen Warner Jeb Brovsky Josh Gardner Sanna Nyassi James Riley (traded to Chivas for Justin Braun and Gerson Mayern) Seth Sinovic thanks. Chin was quoted as not wanting to leave Houston, so expect him to be dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 My first reaction is disappointment, some good picks but some questionable ones. I think we got more than teams in previous years but mostly because we were the only team and the available talent was better. Not terrible picks but I think we could have done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 thanks. Chin was quoted as not wanting to leave Houston, so expect him to be dealt. Yes Marsh mentioned that he spoke with Chin and "He does not want to be here." If we can trade him for someone good like Hainault (obviously not 1 to 1 but maybe as a package) then fine but otherwise a very risky pick especially when on current form better players were available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 @ Grizzly - who would you have taken instead? Chinn is trade bait and there will be MLS teams who want him in their squad. It's a smart move. Especially if they use it to get an international spot. I thought these picks were good - keeping in mind salary cap and probably others players they have in the pipeline they wish to sign. But signing Mapp, Nyassi, Riley, and Valentin were seriously good picks. Instand starters I imagine. Trading Riley was smart to get a 2:1...but i don't know who the guys are they picked-up so... Yes, better picks than Whitecaps and Portland had available.... I can't think off top of my head who they passed by other than the available DP's, and Adu. I am surprised they nabbed Brovsky, but very pleased. I am glad he is gone and the Caps can bring in someone more dynamic and/or give Alderson that playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I love the way Marsch talked about Brovsky's "versatility" as a reason to pick him. "He can play central midfield almost competently and right back incredibly badly; when you have a skill-set like that available you can't say no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 If I was an Impact fan I'd be pretty disappointed with the picks.. not that you should be building off the expansion draft anyways but this is the type of team I'd expect Tom Soehn to pick. BROVKSY?! Why the hell would you select anyone from the caps?? The Ching pick is ridiculous, he wants to be in Houston or he'll retire simple.. the ball isn't really in Montreal's court.. Houston isn't going to part with any key pieces for a 35 year old with one season left. Riley pick/trade was a good move, as was Mapp but that was a no brainer. Nyassi over Kimura definitely stands out as questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Chinn is trade bait and there will be MLS teams who want him in their squad. It's a smart move. Especially if they use it to get an international spot. Unless he follows through on his threat to retire. Then it's a wasted pick. He is 33. As for who they could've picked instead, look at the first post in this thread. There's 10 guys that they passed over. They did well, but some picks were a little confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Alphonso Applegate Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Getting Justin Braun is a good move. He's been scoring consistently for Chivas the past couple seasons. I like the idea of calling Ching's bluff. If Houston wants him back then they gotta pay for him. If nobody matches the asking price then he retires and can't score against you LOL Valentin and Mapp are real good pieces to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Thiku, I posted who I would pick in the other thread. I am working so am limited to how much I can analyze the picks but as I said a bit disappointed. Some picks were not bad but there was better out there. We got some good players like Mapp and Valentine but those were no brainer picks. Marsh obviously knows things about the Ching situation I do not know but still seems really risky. I think Houston took a gamble in exposing him in the sense that from the heart he should finish his career in Houston. From a practical sense if I were Houston I would not give up anything of value to get him back and I could really see him just retiring. Brovsky is really hard to understand. I like the trade for Braun a lot, Mayen is just a throw in to the deal. I also like the allocation money for Tyson Wahl deal. Nyassi is rolling the dice, the guy has lots of skill and potential and could be a steal. On the other hand he rarely plays up to his potential, has attitude issues and is apparently looking at going to Europe. Given a choice between him and a solid right back with a great attitude who is a fan favourite and 27 years old I would have picked Kimura but Nyassi is still a decent gamble. Sinovic is a good pick, one of the ones I really debated in making my list. Some of the others are decent picks but not sure they were the absolutely best choices available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Getting Justin Braun is a good move. He's been scoring consistently for Chivas the past couple seasons. I like the idea of calling Ching's bluff. If Houston wants him back then they gotta pay for him. If nobody matches the asking price then he retires and can't score against you LOL Valentin and Mapp are real good pieces to. Nothing new really. In the past, clubs used the the expansion draft to accumulate allocation dollars. hence they drafted mostly with no intention of keeping the players drafted but rather to trade back for allocation money. A couple of them are usually kept by the club that drafted them. Whitecaps kept atiba harris but i dont know who else of the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Nothing new really. In the past, clubs used the the expansion draft to accumulate allocation dollars. hence they drafted mostly with no intention of keeping the players drafted but rather to trade back for allocation money. A couple of them are usually kept by the club that drafted them. Whitecaps kept atiba harris but i dont know who else of the top of my head. Yes and that really worked out well for the Caps didn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Yes and that really worked out well for the Caps didn't it! Well thats hard to say. Maybe those allocations dollars helped in signing players like Hassli, Camilo or Rochat. Besides, Portland the same AFAIK. What i dont get is, since canadians arent very numerous, why they didnt pick one or two of those guys with Canadian ties like Cann, Williams or O'brien. As far we know there is still a quota in the league and they would prove valuable to not only IMFC but maybe as trade bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I worry that Marsch is going to be Soehn v. 2.0 - big on crap American talent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Well thats hard to say. Maybe those allocations dollars helped in signing players like Hassli, Camilo or Rochat. Besides, Portland the same AFAIK. What i dont get is, since canadians arent very numerous, why they didnt pick one or two of those guys with Canadian ties like Cann, Williams or O'brien. As far we know there is still a quota in the league and they would prove valuable to not only IMFC but maybe as trade bait. EDIT.: missed it. they did in fact pick cann They did? I haven't seen that listed anywhere. They picked another 7 defenders instead from the list I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Alphonso Applegate Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Well thats hard to say. Maybe those allocations dollars helped in signing players like Hassli, Camilo or Rochat. Besides, Portland the same AFAIK. What i dont get is, since canadians arent very numerous, why they didnt pick one or two of those guys with Canadian ties like Cann, Williams or O'brien. As far we know there is still a quota in the league and they would prove valuable to not only IMFC but maybe as trade bait. EDIT.: missed it. they did in fact pick cann The quota is only 3 players, they'll fill that easy enough. When did they pick Cann tho? He's not one of the 10 they chose. Did they trade for him after the fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 They did? I haven't seen that listed anywhere. They picked another 7 defenders instead from the list I've seen. Your right...i went back to take a look at the picks but looked at YNWA's list by accident, thinking that that was the actual list. He had Cann on his list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Yes and that really worked out well for the Caps didn't it! No, but the Impact selecting Jeb Brovsky has made my day!!! Great humanitarian. Absolutely crap footballer. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Chinn is trade bait and there will be MLS teams who want him in their squad. It's a smart move. Especially if they use it to get an international spot. Not really. He said he doesnt want to leave Houston. I think he said that he would rather retire and i saw this quote BEFORE THE DRAFT. So they dont have any leaverage if they try to trade him because he will go to only one team and hence IMFC cant fetch the maximum value for him. So then, why pick him? Besides, he is an american so i dont quite see how that gets you an international spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I am shocked that Ned Gravaboy wasn't selected. His salary is only $118,000 ....and for RSL ....he is what Eric Avila was to FCD (a few years older however). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I agree. Grabavoy is a strong midfielder and a player who should be able to claim a starting XI role on any MLS side. Choosing Brovsky leads me to believe he's going to be used as trade bait, perhaps in the Ching trade, for getting Andre Hainault. Something tells me MTL is aiming for Hainault to fill out their RB position (or perhaps anchor their back line). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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