ThiKu Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Further evidence as to why Soehn is a complete tool. http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Work+harder+stay+home+message+Whitecaps+Davide+Chiumiento/5550239/story.html He has this ridiculous North American mindset that you have to "work 100% on both sides of the ball 100% of the time." Well in soccer that doesn't work with every player. Dede is an exceptional talent. A unique talent. If they expect him to play a traditional 4-4-2 CM or play wide midfield and be tracking back all day long then what the hell did they sign him for? The guy is a creator. A goal scorer. He can make something out of nothing. Put him in a central attacking role and just let him play. Make him the #10 and let him play. He leads the team in assists despite having to play wide midfield. Put him central and let him create for 1 or 2 strikers playing in front of him. Soehn is completely wasting the potential of this team - I can't wait to see if Rennie is smarter. Can't wait. Caps should be playing a 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, or 4-1-4-1.....or figure out how to work a diamond 4-4-2 or box 4-2-2-2 to get the best out of Dede and Camillo. Camillo has thrived despite the tactics TT and TS have used - same with Dede. If they want to change the perception the world has of MLS they have to bring these kinds of players forward and let them create and be imaginative. Best Line-up for next year: GK - UPGRADE RB - UPGRADE CB - Demerit CB - UPGRADE LB - Rochat DM - Koffie CM - UPGRADE (or try Jarju there) AM - Dede LW - Teibert CF - Hassli RW - UPGRADE or play Harris there? Camillo can be a supersub, or he can play one of the wing roles, or if playing two strikers obviously play him central. A proper squad is a deep squad so someone who "should be starting" would always be on the bench. Camillo might be that guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I generally agree. The beauty of 4-2-3-1 is that the three attacking midfielders can have all sorts of freedom, which suits DC, Camilo and Jarju. Unfortunately, you need two reliable holding mids and two fullbacks who don't suck. We're half way there with Rochat and Koffie. I would keep this group together for one more year and do everything possible to sign a decent DM and a decent RB. If we can part ways with Thorrington, Morfaw, and maybe renegotiate Cannon's contract, we should have $300-400k to play with to fill these spots. Maybe more depending on how allocation plays into it. What I understand of Rennie is that he likes to rotate his squad and is not tactically rigid. If Jarju can play some CM, I think they have enough looks to get Teibert, Harris, Salgado, Khalfan, etc. some attacking minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I don't understand people's love with Koffie. He gives the ball away a lot. People seem to think he's the next Claude Makelele. I think the Caps can do better at CDM. Next year should be a lot better. Hopefully Teibert gets a chance. When Harris was in the lineup earlier this year the Caps were great. If only the Caps could get ride of jarju and Cannon, think of all the cap space they would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 lulz, It took me a while to figure out who Dede is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 If only the Caps could get ride of jarju and Cannon, think of all the cap space they would have. Don't forget John Thorrington and Alex Morfaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 lulz, It took me a while to figure out who Dede is. Your not alone. And since the link was from the montreal Gazette, i thought it was in refrence to a player from the impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Further evidence as to why Soehn is a complete tool. http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Work+harder+stay+home+message+Whitecaps+Davide+Chiumiento/5550239/story.html He has this ridiculous North American mindset that you have to "work 100% on both sides of the ball 100% of the time." Well in soccer that doesn't work with every player. Dede is an exceptional talent. A unique talent. If they expect him to play a traditional 4-4-2 CM or play wide midfield and be tracking back all day long then what the hell did they sign him for? The guy is a creator. A goal scorer. He can make something out of ... This could be a cultural thing whereby players in europe (where there is no salary cap and accompanying parity) might be used to managing their efforts. Whereas in NA, in cap system there is so much more parity that anything less than max effort and commitment means a loss regardless of the opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 TT would start DC on the wing but let him meander around and get other players to fill in the holes left. He is one hell of a dribbler. Run with the ball across the field trying to bait the defenders out of position and then making the pass. 10 assists so far this year. Soehn is clueless. He is a typical North American coach trying to compensate for a lack of touch with extra work rate. DC has been a lot better defensively lately. He does try to track back but he has never been a defensive star. He is primarily an offensive talent, use him that way. You need to combine work rate and touch not just rely on one. It is easier to get increased work rate out of good touch players than vice versa. If they haven't learned touch by the time they are 20 they never will. Koffie may give the ball away from time to time but he simply is a greyhound after his rabbit (the ball). He is relentless and shuts down the other teams midfield and breaks up plays. Over all he is a major plus and still very young. To watch him over the last 2 years go from a card magnet to controlled aggression, to go from not keeping the ball in the park on shots to forcing the keeper to make a save. He is developing great. Keep him! "Soehn is likely to take extra defensive cover in the form of Bilal Duckett." - Proof if any was needed that Soehn is totally clueless. Duckett is a total liability on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Koffie is a future beast. He could be the best DM in MLS in two years. Dede can play out wide as well, I realize, but he'd do best in 4-2-3-1 if playing wide. I think though the ideal Caps lineup is 4-2-3-1 with Dede central. He can swap spots with Camilo as necessary....Camilo either wide left or off the bench if not starting up top (ie, Hassli needs a break). TS has to go - he's only marginally better than The Mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 if the caps expect to get any better they need to also shed some salary. Jarju, Demert and Cannon should be let go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Cannon is the only guy all season to show any leadership whatsoever: he's vocal on the pitch, he calls out the team when they don't show up, he's personally stopped by the supporters pub to apologise for poor performance by buying a round of drinks, and he's the only guy who sings Oh Canada. If we had 11 guys like this, we'd be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Cannon is the only guy all season to show any leadership whatsoever: he's vocal on the pitch, he calls out the team when they don't show up, he's personally stopped by the supporters pub to apologise for poor performance by buying a round of drinks, and he's the only guy who sings Oh Canada. If we had 11 guys like this, we'd be competitive. Yes I don't dispute his character. However, you are ignoring that he is a pretty mediocre keeper at this point in his career and his skill level is significantly below his salary level. If you had 11 similarly mediocre players with attitudes like his I think you would be every bit as poor a team as you currently are. You need players with good attitudes but above all the Caps need to upgrade their skill level and the keeper position is one of the positions that definitely needs an upgrade. Cannon really should not be a starting keeper in MLS right now and he is too expensive to be a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Cannon is the only guy all season to show any leadership whatsoever: he's vocal on the pitch, he calls out the team when they don't show up, he's personally stopped by the supporters pub to apologise for poor performance by buying a round of drinks, and he's the only guy who sings Oh Canada. If we had 11 guys like this, we'd be competitive. One problem though: he's a mediocre goalkeeper. Mediocre, as in not good enough. Leadership is fine but he is not very good, for me I just ask, would this guy be able to play in a 2nd division in any of the top European leagues. Answer is no, he is not good enough. Dont let what Joe says about himself and the world fool you, he is limited in almost all aspects of goalkeeping, in air, one on one, with his feet, pure reflex shot stopping. Cannon in mediocre from top to bottom. And yes, he's better than Nolly. Get a solid experienced keeper with leadership ability and put him at the back, and sign a young strong prospect as the backup, pay the kid less to afford the starter. Then we are talking. After that we just need another centre back, another dynamic mid with quality passing so we can hold the ball more, and maybe just some quality depth, and that is about it. Oh, apart from a decent coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Well he's no Dani Fernandes, I concede. Lars is available, probably for similar wages, but I'm not sure he's much of an upgrade. Cannon is the absolute last reason the club has struggeld this season. There was never a big saved asked that he didn't make to cost us points. Trust me, I watch every painful match quite closely. Joe may be a mediocre keeper, but we're fielding 4-5 guys per match that would have an extremely hard time calling themselves a professional, forget a mediocre professional. If Cannon must go to fix this problem, and we replace him with another mediocre keeper in Jay Nolly, we'll so be it. However, I suspect most people are simply looking a Joe's salary and that's the end of. Fair enough, but I can tell you that as much as lack of skill has been a problem, we have suffered a total, absolute, complete lack of leadership. MLS is not the freaking Serie A or Premier League. 80% of the players are completely mediocre, and that may be charitable. What sets clubs like Seattle apart -beyond competent management- is players who are committed and who compete. When you have only a handful of these types of players, you can't go cutting them without some serious thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 I would take Lars any day over either Nolly or Cannon. Yes, I have my Red glasses on but still.... Big.Step.Up. Lars>Cannon-Nolly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Cannon is mediocre in only one regard and that is handling the ball with his feet. Nolly is way better in that regard but Cannon is a better shot stopper. I am okay with either between the pipes. Problem is Cannon get $200,000 a year and that is a lot of salary cap space. Nolly gets around $80,000 so it is hard to justify keeping Cannon at his current rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Well he's no Dani Fernandes, I concede. Lars is available, probably for similar wages, but I'm not sure he's much of an upgrade. Cannon is the absolute last reason the club has struggeld this season. There was never a big saved asked that he didn't make to cost us points. Trust me, I watch every painful match quite closely. Joe may be a mediocre keeper, but we're fielding 4-5 guys per match that would have an extremely hard time calling themselves a professional, forget a mediocre professional. If Cannon must go to fix this problem, and we replace him with another mediocre keeper in Jay Nolly, we'll so be it. However, I suspect most people are simply looking a Joe's salary and that's the end of. Fair enough, but I can tell you that as much as lack of skill has been a problem, we have suffered a total, absolute, complete lack of leadership. MLS is not the freaking Serie A or Premier League. 80% of the players are completely mediocre, and that may be charitable. What sets clubs like Seattle apart -beyond competent management- is players who are committed and who compete. When you have only a handful of these types of players, you can't go cutting them without some serious thought. That's why you hired Martin Rennie. To clean the roster out and keep those who can play. A number of MLS teams have proved you can play good and even attractive soccer by finding the "right" players. It has nothing to do with money as we can see by so many EPL teams who play like crap. Teams like New England are the MLS past. Hopefully Rennie will keep the Caps from being like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 I don't follow NER ... why are they "the MLS past"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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