Lovethegame! Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Does anyone want to take a few mins, and do a "depth Chart" for the National Team? Please! would love to have it with all your proper opinions... Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Pretty simple summary. No depth at CF - we don't have one. No depth at CB - we have 3 (Hainault, McKenna, Jako). No depth at RB - we don't have one. (unless Straith or Peters can start playing with their club teams). The rest.....strong, but not "excellent" barring Simpson, and Hutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Nice thread idea… as a matter of fact I’d already done something similar after the latest Canucks Abroad list came out… here’s my two-bits! GK: Milan Borjan - Sivasspor (Turkish Super Liga) (1) Lars Hirschfeld - Valarenga (Norwegian Tippeliga) (1) Greg Sutton - Red Bull New York (Major League Soccer) (1) Kenny Stamatopoulos - AIK Stockholm (Swedish Allsvenskan) (1) Roberto Stillo - Genoa CFC (Italian Serie A) (1) Primavera Haidar Al-Shaibani - Nimes Olympique (France Championnat National) (3) DEF: Kevin McKenna - FC Köln (German Bundesliga 1) (1) Marcel de Jong - FC Augsburg (German Bundesliga 1) (1) Mike Klukowski - Manisaspor FC (Turkish Super Liga) (1) Andre Hainault - Houston Dynamo (Major League Soccer) (1) Dejan Jakovic - DC United (Major League Soccer) (1) Adrian Cann - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Chris Pozniak - FK Haugesund (Norwegian Tippeliga) (1) David Edgar - Burnley (English Championship) (2) Nana Attakora - San Jose Earthquakes (Major League Soccer) (1) Adam Straith - Energie Cottbus (German Bundesliga 2) (2) Eddy Sidra - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) Jaime Peters - Ipswich Town (English Championship) (2) Ethan Gage - Reading (English Championship) (2) Reserves Doneil Henry - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Ashtone Morgan - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Nikolas Ledgerwood - Wehen Wiesbaden (German 3.Liga) (3) MF: Atiba Hutchinson - PSV Eindhoven (Dutch Eredivisie) (1) Dwayne DeRosario - DC United (Major League Soccer) (1) Josh Simpson - Manisaspor FC (Turkish Super Liga) (1) Julian de Guzman - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Will Johnson - Real Salt Lake (Major League Soccer) (1) Patrice Bernier - FC Nordsjælland (Danish Superliga) (1) Issey Nakajima-Farran - AC Horsens (Danish Superliga) (1) Joseph DiChiara - Kryliya Sovetov (Russian Premier League) (1) Terry Dunfield - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Russell Teibert - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) Pedro Pacheco - Santa Clara (Portuguese Liga de Honra) (2) Shaun Saiko - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) Janeil Hoilett - FSV Mainz II (German Regionalliga West) (4) Igor Pisanjuk - Kecskemeti TE (Hungarian NB I) (1) Stefan Cebara - Zalaegerszegi TE (Hungarian NB I) (1) Jonathan Bourgault - Preussen Munster (German 3.Liga) (3) Gianluca Zavarise - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) FW: Simeon Jackson - Norwich (English Premier League) (1) Rob Friend - Hertha Berlin (German Bundesliga 1) (1) Frank Jonke - Inter Turku (Finnish Veikkausliiga) (1) Tosaint Ricketts - FC Timisoara (Romanian Ligi II) (2) Olivier Occean - Greuther Fuerth (German Bundesliga 2) (2) Iain Hume - Preston North End (English League One) (3) Ali Gerba - Montreal Impact (North American Soccer League) (2) Marcus Haber – St. Johnstone FC (Scottish Premier League) (1) A few comments: - Players to cap before they turn Teal on us: o Hoilett… the younger that is… kid seemed game for wearing the red but club wouldn’t let him play for U20s… they can’t say no to a Sr call-up though o DiChiara… if this kid can see consistent minutes in the RPL I say he’s worth a look. o Pisanjuk and Cebara - Player I think also deserve a look o Frank Jonke… bags ~1 goal every 2 games in the Finish 1st div. o Stillo… only reason I don’t put him in the former category is because of the depth of Italian goaltending… Still it would be nice to see what he’s got… “just in case” as well as to help his career a bit and create some competition for spots. - The forgotten ones… Where the hell have they been? o Pozniak… How a bunch of lower div UK/German based players who mostly ride the pine for their respective clubs get the call before him is completely beyond me. Must be something here I don’t know about. o Bernier and Nakajima-Farran… kicking ass in the Danish Superliga should be worth a call every now and again. o Hume… Guy bagged just as many goals as SJ in the Championship last year only in less games… needs to get back to the Championship though. o Stamatopoulos... actually playing for a decent Swedish 1st div team has got to be worth more than riding the pine for a now 3rd div French team; think it's time he's moved up SH's depth chart as a result. - Young guns players to consider based on form/playing time (not otherwised mentioned above): o Tiebert… kid’s a spark-plug when he’s on his game o Haber… if he can start playing consistently in the SPL o Gage… if he can get some minutes with the top team this season o Straith, Nana, Edgar… if any of them can find their way out of purgatory And for some more procrastination here’s my shortlist for a U23/Olympic qualifiers team… U23 team 30 man shortlist: GK - Roberto Stillo - Genoa CFC (Italian Serie A) (1) Primavera GK - Maxime Crépeau - Montreal Impact (North American Soccer League) (2) Youth GK - Julien Latendresse-Levesque - Energie Cottbus II (German Regionalliga N/NE) DF – Doneil Henry - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) DF (LB) – Ashtone Morgan - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) DF/DM - Ethan Gage - Reading (English Championship) (2) Reserves DF - Adam Straith - Energie Cottbus (German Bundesliga 2) (2) DF - Nana Attakora - San Jose Earthquakes (Major League Soccer) (1) DF - Eddy Sidra - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) DF - Edson Edward - FC Dallas (Major League Soccer) (1) DF – Alex Surprenant - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) MF (LW) – Russell Teibert - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) MF – Shaun Saiko - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) DM/DF - Jonathan Bourgault - Preussen Munster (German 3.Liga) (3) MF - Joseph DiChiara - Kryliya Sovetov (Russian Premier League) (1) MF - Janeil Hoilett - FSV Mainz II (German Regionalliga West) (4) MF - Bryce Alderson - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) Youth MF - Stefan Cebara - Zalaegerszegi TE (Hungarian NB I) (1) MF - Igor Pisanjuk - Kecskemeti TE (Hungarian NB I) (1) MF – Emmanuel Garcia - Boca Juniors (Argentina Primera) (1) Youth MF - Keven Aleman - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) Youth MF - Samuel Piette - FC Metz (France League 1) (1) youth MF - Josh Janniere - Colorado Rapids (Major League Soccer) (1) AM - Fraser Aird - Glasgow AM - Fraser Aird - Rangers (Scottish Premier League) (1) Youth MF – Philippe Davies - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) FW - Marcus Haber – St. Johnstone FC (Scottish Premier League) (1) FW – Nicholas Lindsay - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) FW/AM - Alex Semenets - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) FW - Reda Agourram - Montreal Impact (North American Soccer League) (2) FW - Stefan Vuković - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 MF - Keven Aleman - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) Youth? He didn't sign with them unless I am wrong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Nope you're right, that was speculative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 here's my take on the depth of our men's team as it stands right now, and could be considered for world cup qualifying games GK 1. Lars Hirschfeld (Valerenga) , experienced at international level and regular starts 2. Milan Borjan (Sivasspor), promising and starting at a good level 3. Greg Sutton (New York Red Bull), experienced but now on loan to Montreal 4. Kenny Stamatopoulos (AIK Stockholm), journeyman getting some starts 5. Michal Misiewicz (Polonia Bytom), uncapped, getting first team minutes 6. Roberto Stillo (Genoa CFC), uncapped youth player at Serie A club, loaned to 4th div 7. Haidar Al-Shaibani (Nimes Olympique), starting in a lower league 8. Jordan Santiago (Cardiff City) uncapped english 2nd tier reserves Right Back 1. Adam Straith (Energie Cottbus), young but getting starts in B2 2. Jaime Peters (Ipswich Town), attacking option there, not consistently a starter 3. Chris Pozniak (Haugesund), at the position every week at decent level 4. Nick Ledgerwood (SV Wehen), starting in lower league Left Back 1. Mike Klukowski (Manisaspor), starts in quality league, plays well for MNT 2. Marcel De Jong (FC Augsburg), regular in B2, now promoted to B1 3. Ante Jazic (Chivas USA), MLS player 4. Ashtone Morgan (Toronto FC), MLS squad player 5. Eddy Sidra (FC Edmonton), NASL squad player Centre Back 1. Kevin Mckenna (1.FC Köln), experienced bench player at highest level 2. Dejan Jackovic (DC United), holding down regular minutes in MLS 3. Andre Hainault (Houston Dynamo) , same as above, can play across the back line 4. Adrian Cann (Toronto FC), MLS team MVP 5. David Edgar (Burnley FC), almost forgot about him, bench player in Championship 6. Nana Attakora (San Jose Earthquakes), MLS bench player, probably starter on some teams 7. Paul Hamilton (FC Edmonton), lower level uncapped, has shown he can play 8. Doneil Henry (Toronto FC), uncapped young MLS squad player 9. Edson Edward (FC Dallas), uncapped MLS squad player Central Midfielders- Attacking 1. Atiba Hutchinson (PSV Eindhoven), our best player, can play anywhere in midfield 2. Dwayne De Rosario (DC United), scores goals and can play all attacking positions 3. Pedro Pacheco (CD Santa Clara), bench player in a lower but technical league 4. Shaun Saiko (FC Edmonton), uncapped, young starter at lower level Central Midfielders - Defensive 1. Julian De Guzman (Toronto FC), most skilled defensive player 2. Patrice Bernier (Free Agent), experienced, regular at good level 3. Terry Dunfield (Toronto FC), has shown well for the MNT 4. Will Johnson (Real Salt Lake), starts in MLS 5. Joseph Dichiara (Krylia Sovetov) uncapped young man in reserves at high level, should he be higher on this chart ? 6. Daniel Imhof (St. Gallen), experienced starting midfielder now at lower level 7. Ethan Gage (Reading FC). uncapped reserve player in good 2nd tier 8. Jonathan Beaulieu Bourgeault (Preußen Münster), established in a good 3rd tier forward/winger 1. Josh Simpson (Manisaspor), our top attacking threat, key member of club at good level 2. Simeon Jackson (Norwich City), now at highest level, scores goals 3. Iain Hume (Preston North End), scores goals in the Championship 4. Tomasz Radzinski (Free Agent), can still contribute at his age 5. Issey Nakajima-Farran (AC Horsens), veteran of decent league, can attack from many positions 6. Tosaint Ricketts (Timisoara), fast, club has dropped a level but still developing 7. Russell Teibert (Vancouver Whitecaps), uncapped promising young winger 8. Igor Pisanjuk (Kecskeméti TE), uncapped striker plays lower level europe 9. Andrew Ornoch (Unattached), trialing in Dutch 2nd tier 10. Gianluca Zavarise (Toronto FC), squad player in MLS with injury troubles centre forward 1. Ali Gerba (Impact de Montreal), scores consistently for MNT 2. Olivier Occean (SpVgg Greuther Fürth), starts in B2, top club goal scorer at B3 3. Rob Friend (Hertha BSC), bench player in B2, yet to score many for MNT, now in B1 again 4. Julian Uccello (Crotone), uncapped possibly a starter in 2nd tier Italy 5. Frank Jonke (Inter Turku), uncapped goal poacher in a weaker league 6. Marcus Haber (St. Johnstone), young, needs to play more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 ^ Good list - Edgar? Santiago, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Nice thread idea… as a matter of fact I’d already done something similar after the latest Canucks Abroad list came out… here’s my two-bits! GK: Milan Borjan - Sivasspor (Turkish Super Liga) (1) Lars Hirschfeld - Valarenga (Norwegian Tippeliga) (1) Greg Sutton - Red Bull New York (Major League Soccer) (1) Kenny Stamatopoulos - AIK Stockholm (Swedish Allsvenskan) (1) Roberto Stillo - Genoa CFC (Italian Serie A) (1) Primavera Haidar Al-Shaibani - Nimes Olympique (France Championnat National) (3) DEF: Kevin McKenna - FC Köln (German Bundesliga 1) (1) Marcel de Jong - FC Augsburg (German Bundesliga 1) (1) Mike Klukowski - Manisaspor FC (Turkish Super Liga) (1) Andre Hainault - Houston Dynamo (Major League Soccer) (1) Dejan Jakovic - DC United (Major League Soccer) (1) Adrian Cann - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Chris Pozniak - FK Haugesund (Norwegian Tippeliga) (1) David Edgar - Burnley (English Championship) (2) Nana Attakora - San Jose Earthquakes (Major League Soccer) (1) Adam Straith - Energie Cottbus (German Bundesliga 2) (2) Eddy Sidra - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) Jaime Peters - Ipswich Town (English Championship) (2) Ethan Gage - Reading (English Championship) (2) Reserves Doneil Henry - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Ashtone Morgan - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Nikolas Ledgerwood - Wehen Wiesbaden (German 3.Liga) (3) MF: Atiba Hutchinson - PSV Eindhoven (Dutch Eredivisie) (1) Dwayne DeRosario - DC United (Major League Soccer) (1) Josh Simpson - Manisaspor FC (Turkish Super Liga) (1) Julian de Guzman - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Will Johnson - Real Salt Lake (Major League Soccer) (1) Patrice Bernier - FC Nordsjælland (Danish Superliga) (1) Issey Nakajima-Farran - AC Horsens (Danish Superliga) (1) Joseph DiChiara - Kryliya Sovetov (Russian Premier League) (1) Terry Dunfield - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Russell Teibert - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) Pedro Pacheco - Santa Clara (Portuguese Liga de Honra) (2) Shaun Saiko - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) Janeil Hoilett - FSV Mainz II (German Regionalliga West) (4) Igor Pisanjuk - Kecskemeti TE (Hungarian NB I) (1) Stefan Cebara - Zalaegerszegi TE (Hungarian NB I) (1) Jonathan Bourgault - Preussen Munster (German 3.Liga) (3) Gianluca Zavarise - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) FW: Simeon Jackson - Norwich (English Premier League) (1) Rob Friend - Hertha Berlin (German Bundesliga 1) (1) Frank Jonke - Inter Turku (Finnish Veikkausliiga) (1) Tosaint Ricketts - FC Timisoara (Romanian Ligi II) (2) Olivier Occean - Greuther Fuerth (German Bundesliga 2) (2) Iain Hume - Preston North End (English League One) (3) Ali Gerba - Montreal Impact (North American Soccer League) (2) Marcus Haber – St. Johnstone FC (Scottish Premier League) (1) A few comments: - Players to cap before they turn Teal on us: o Hoilett… the younger that is… kid seemed game for wearing the red but club wouldn’t let him play for U20s… they can’t say no to a Sr call-up though o DiChiara… if this kid can see consistent minutes in the RPL I say he’s worth a look. o Pisanjuk and Cebara - Player I think also deserve a look o Frank Jonke… bags ~1 goal every 2 games in the Finish 1st div. o Stillo… only reason I don’t put him in the former category is because of the depth of Italian goaltending… Still it would be nice to see what he’s got… “just in case” as well as to help his career a bit and create some competition for spots. - The forgotten ones… Where the hell have they been? o Pozniak… How a bunch of lower div UK/German based players who mostly ride the pine for their respective clubs get the call before him is completely beyond me. Must be something here I don’t know about. o Bernier and Nakajima-Farran… kicking ass in the Danish Superliga should be worth a call every now and again. o Hume… Guy bagged just as many goals as SJ in the Championship last year only in less games… needs to get back to the Championship though. o Stamatopoulos... actually playing for a decent Swedish 1st div team has got to be worth more than riding the pine for a now 3rd div French team; think it's time he's moved up SH's depth chart as a result. - Young guns players to consider based on form/playing time (not otherwised mentioned above): o Tiebert… kid’s a spark-plug when he’s on his game o Haber… if he can start playing consistently in the SPL o Gage… if he can get some minutes with the top team this season o Straith, Nana, Edgar… if any of them can find their way out of purgatory And for some more procrastination here’s my shortlist for a U23/Olympic qualifiers team… U23 team 30 man shortlist: GK - Roberto Stillo - Genoa CFC (Italian Serie A) (1) Primavera GK - Maxime Crépeau - Montreal Impact (North American Soccer League) (2) Youth GK - Julien Latendresse-Levesque - Energie Cottbus II (German Regionalliga N/NE) DF – Doneil Henry - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) DF (LB) – Ashtone Morgan - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) DF/DM - Ethan Gage - Reading (English Championship) (2) Reserves DF - Adam Straith - Energie Cottbus (German Bundesliga 2) (2) DF - Nana Attakora - San Jose Earthquakes (Major League Soccer) (1) DF - Eddy Sidra - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) DF - Edson Edward - FC Dallas (Major League Soccer) (1) DF – Alex Surprenant - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) MF (LW) – Russell Teibert - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) MF – Shaun Saiko - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) DM/DF - Jonathan Bourgault - Preussen Munster (German 3.Liga) (3) MF - Joseph DiChiara - Kryliya Sovetov (Russian Premier League) (1) MF - Janeil Hoilett - FSV Mainz II (German Regionalliga West) (4) MF - Bryce Alderson - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) Youth MF - Stefan Cebara - Zalaegerszegi TE (Hungarian NB I) (1) MF - Igor Pisanjuk - Kecskemeti TE (Hungarian NB I) (1) MF – Emmanuel Garcia - Boca Juniors (Argentina Primera) (1) Youth MF - Keven Aleman - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) Youth MF - Samuel Piette - FC Metz (France League 1) (1) youth MF - Josh Janniere - Colorado Rapids (Major League Soccer) (1) AM - Fraser Aird - Glasgow AM - Fraser Aird - Rangers (Scottish Premier League) (1) Youth MF – Philippe Davies - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Major League Soccer) (1) FW - Marcus Haber – St. Johnstone FC (Scottish Premier League) (1) FW – Nicholas Lindsay - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) FW/AM - Alex Semenets - FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) (2) FW - Reda Agourram - Montreal Impact (North American Soccer League) (2) FW - Stefan Vuković - TFC (Major League Soccer) (1) Youth Did you have a previous user name on this site? because this is the best first post from anyone ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanovski94 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 What about Michal Misiewicz in Polonia Bytom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 4. Tomasz Radzinski (Free Agent), can still contribute at his age I'm pretty sure he's retired internationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 where is ucello, am i missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Good spot. Yes, Uccello deserves a call-up assuming he starts and plays regularly in Serie B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 No previous user names or posts, that was officially post #1... thanks buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forster01 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 No previous user names or posts, that was officially post #1... thanks buddy! That was an absolutely monster first post WOW. Great depth chart btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I'm pretty sure he's retired internationally. never say never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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