Obinna Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 We can all read in between the lines here. I for one am happy that Julian will be heading back to Europe, I hope it rejuvenates his career because the Canada needs him to be in form. Before his move to TFC, he was linked with Ajax, Tottenham, Benfica, and some other mid to lower table La Liga sides, but realistically clubs of this level will not be interested in his services since he is coming from MLS and is 30 now. What league or club (or type of club would be best for Julian)? Personally, Julian seems like the kind of player who is motivated by playing against the best, and since he has played in Spain, and England is likely not the place for him, I think a move to Italy would be interesting. Perhaps a club moving back up like Siena or Atalanta would want him. Another interesting possibility is a Turkish club as alot of our players are moving there. Manisapor would be best from a Canada point of view but I think he has enough quality for teams like Trabzonspor or Bursaspor to have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Is it that obvious/certain that he is leaving TFC soon? I know they acquired the two new DP's, but I don't think that means that it is a forgone conclusion he is done there... unless I missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Well, you are right that this is not a forgone conclusion, but I think the consensus is that he is most likely leaving. TFC now have Frings, Tachani, Dunfield, Sturgis and look primed to sign an international defender (perhaps a DP). This makes sense because Winter has been talking about wanting to sign a defender and now they have traded for an extra international spot and have cleared cap space by removing Nana, Gordon and Peterson. So I figured this would be a fun thread to get started in the meantime. I really hope he gets out of Toronto soon for Canada's sake, nothing against TFC or MLS the league/team is just not the right fit for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) Before his move to TFC, he was linked with Ajax, Tottenham, Benfica, and some other mid to lower table La Liga sides, but realistically clubs of this level will not be interested in his services since he is coming from MLS and back up like Siena or Atalanta would want him. look. I don't recall that at all. I recall that he held out at the very last minute for offers before signing with TFC. Those are very big clubs that you have mentioned (Ajax, Tottenham, Benfica) and they have world class players. They play in European competitions. It's just not realistic for any player to overlook those clubs in favor MLS. you must be thinking of one of those lower Prem club whose name escapes me. But thats Likely all agent talk to boost the value of player. Regarding those lower to mid level clubs in Turkey. Well that's another story. When the stories of match fixing in Turkey broke, I checked and looked at the roster of one or two of those clubs (including the one with the canadians) and I did not recognize a single player on either team. That tells me a lot about the prestige and caliber of the league. Opinions will vary on JDG performance during his time with TFC but no one will say he was an all star in the league. And you just do not go to Ajax, Tottenham, Benfica from MLS unless you have really made your mark in MLS. Edited July 15, 2011 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuire Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I think the most likely detination for Julian would be the Scandinavian leagues, the Championship or the SPL, but certainlynot one of the top leagues, his stock has dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 I don't recall that at all. I recall that he held out at the very last minute for offers before signing with TFC. Those are very big clubs that you have mentioned (Ajax, Tottenham, Benfica) and they have world class players. They play in European competitions. It's just not realistic for any player to overlook those clubs in favor MLS. you must be thinking of one of those lower Prem club whose name escapes me. But thats Likely all agent talk to boost the value of player. Regarding those lower to mid level clubs in Turkey. Well that's another story. When the stories of match fixing in Turkey broke, I checked and looking and the roster of one or two of those clubs (including the one with the canadians) and I did not recognize a single player on either team. That tells me a lot about the prestige and caliber of the league. Opinions will vary on JDG performance during his time with TFC but no one will say he was an all star in the league. And you just do not go to Ajax, Tottenham, Benfica from MLS unless you have really made you mark. Julian was definatly linked to Ajax, Spurs, and Benfica before he moved to TFC in 2009 because I do remember reading that. Neither of those clubs to my knowledge offered him a contract but all of them were monitoring him. links to Spurs rumors http://footiefool.com/2009/01/12/julian-de-guzman-to-spurs/ http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=41524 link to Benfica rumor http://www.portugoal.net/index.php/more-benfica-news/1315-de-guzman-flattered-with-benfica-link I am too lazy to look up the Ajax rumor but you can bet it was mentioned if those two are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) I think the most likely detination for Julian would be the Scandinavian leagues, the Championship or the SPL, but certainlynot one of the top leagues, his stock has dropped Interesting. The only clubs big enough in Scandinavia for Julian would be Copenhagen or Rosenberg, but those are both realistic destinations but ones I do not see him going to. He surely as learned that he is most suited for a technical league like Holland or Portugal. It would shock me if he went to the Championship, we are talking about an international who is still worth 1.75 million. The Championship doesnt break for Internationals and the only way I can see that is if he moved to a promotion contender, but that seems to change with every year. The SPL is also unlikely because I don't think Celtic or Rangers would want him and he is too good for the other teams in the league. Maybe a club like AZ, Feyenoord, or Sporting Braga? I think Ajax/PSV/Twente/Porto/Sporting Lisbon/Benfica are out of his reach at this point. Edited July 15, 2011 by Obinna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 ^ I'm pretty sure the Championship does break for internationals; IIRC, it is only League 1 and two in England that don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Holland wouldn't surprise me, as he may hear good things from JDG2 about it. Speaking of which, how about Mallorca? You heard it first here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Is it that obvious/certain that he is leaving TFC soon? I know they acquired the two new DP's, but I don't think that means that it is a forgone conclusion he is done there... unless I missed something. Agree it doesn't look like for a foregone conclusion. Sturgis could easily be the player traded to thin the numbers at centre mid. On the other hand if his contract guarantee is up at the end of this season and TFC have let him know that there is zero chance of him staying beyond that, some sort of negotiated free transfer contract termination might make sense from his standpoint because the summer window is the best time of year to get signed by a European club. Spain, Germany and Holland are probably his best bets and in the case of the first two it might well be for a second tier club now his stock within the game has fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Sounders, New York Red Bulls or LA Galaxy. Only places in Europe worth going to for him would be Spain, lower level Serie A (??) or Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Was it Julian who had a child living in Germany, or do I have that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 As an older, experienced, fairly technical defensive player from a less sexy footballing country, he reminds me of a couple of players Sunderland have signed in recent years, such as Cana and Da Silva. A player like him is probably off their radar by now as they flrit with the middle of the table but I thought of them when I read the thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Was it Julian who had a child living in Germany, or do I have that wrong? Almost positive that is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Was it Julian who had a child living in Germany, or do I have that wrong? And I suspect he could return to the Bundesliga with his reputation. Maybe not as a starter, and definitely not for $40k per week. That's the problem though. Why would he walk out on $1.9m. Sounds like Tchani's been dealt anyway. I wish the Caps could have acquired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 JDG is not moving anywhere at this time if you ask me. I doubt anyone takes him at his current wage, so transfering now isn't going to happen. He can't really be bought out right now either, as it's of no benefit to TFC. He'll be on the TFC roster till season end, that's for sure. If things play out well for him with this new team, I think he may stay and play out the rest of his contract (through all of next season). If he doesn't prove of any value in the next 4 months, then I'd wager he gets bought out in the offseason as TFC can then do that and get him off the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I thought he signed for three years at 1.7 or 1.9 mill per year. So this would be the last year of his contract any ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I thought he signed for three years at 1.7 or 1.9 mill per year. So this would be the last year of his contract any ways. Nope, it's through 2012. It was brought up on RPB today while discussing possible player moves. I'd go find the post linking to the article but I'm much too lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuire Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 ^ I'm pretty sure the Championship does break for internationals; IIRC, it is only League 1 and two in England that don't. They break too, but only for Euro & WC qualifiers, not so much for friendlies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 And I suspect he could return to the Bundesliga with his reputation. Maybe not as a starter, and definitely not for $40k per week. That's the problem though. Why would he walk out on $1.9m. Sounds like Tchani's been dealt anyway. I wish the Caps could have acquired him. $1.9 million is less than the EPL average wage of almost £1.5 million. Midfielders make more than the League average in all of the major Leagues - it works very similar to the linup from back to front: keepers and defenders below the average, middies above, and forwards leading the line. So, his wages are below average and much below the average Midfielder in the EPL. His current wage would probably be average for the Bundesliga and a bit below average in Spain and Italy for Midfielders. I do not think his wage packet will scare of any likely destination personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Julian would have been great in the Premier league 3-5 years ago but injuries have taken their toll and I can't see him catching on with a club there.. I think the best he can hope for is a lower Bundesliga side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Anyone else routing for a move to Manisaspor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Since TFC moved Tchani I can't see him moving now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Jules isn't moving anywhere, but if he did he'd probably end up back in Germany as a squad player for a Bundesliga 2 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Jules isn't moving anywhere, but if he did he'd probably end up back in Germany as a squad player for a Bundesliga 2 side. As soon as he leaves, get used to TFC and those 0-5 scorelines. I hope he leaves that rotting corpse and ends up back in Spain. "2 Bundesliga-squad player"... Gimmee a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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