BringBackTheBlizzard Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 All I'll add by way of a slight clarification is that, "nothing but good things to say", is very high praise. You can think somebody's basically a good guy and great at his job, while still having a word of warning to add about something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Thiku's point about his effectiveness (2 goals, 4 assists in 13 games actually) is correct in my eyes, but I suppose more was expected of him. http://aol.sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2011-06-27/red-bulls-ship-out-de-rosario-get-mccarty-from-dc-united With guys like Henry and Marquez on the roster and with trading for a championship game-winning pedigree guy in DeRo they certainly demonstrated a "win now" philosophy. For the faults I see and nit picks I make about his overall play, particularly at international level, to me DeRo has been a proven commodity at MLS level, even in TO. But after watching him for 13 games Backe had other ideas. Either way, unless the Energy Drinks get some in-form keeping from the incumbents or a new addition in that spot, I don't see this being a championship team in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I don't think he as moved from NYRB cause he wasn't effective, but he wanted to be in the spot behind the strikers, which is the same spot Henry wants to operate in so they move DeRo for a more deep lying midfielder like Dax to partner behind Henry with Taino, allowing Henry to be the main playmaker and allow the ball to work through him much more. Seem smart, plus they save some money to go get a quality goalie and let Sutton or Coundoul play where they belong and that's as a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Has he played a game for DCU yet? Haven't seen his name in the media anywahere since the trade was announced. Disappeared into oblivion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 ^^Yes he played in DCUs recent 2-2 draw against Philly assisting on the first goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 DeRo with 6 goals in 6 games for DCU and has just won his second MLS Player of the week honor in a row (the first player to do that all season). Seems like DCU won in this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 DeRo with 6 goals in 6 games for DCU and has just won his second MLS Player of the week honor in a row (the first player to do that all season). Seems like DCU won in this trade. That would be understating it! DeRo is on fire, he had 2 goals the game before that against San Jose. Puts him on 9 goals for the season, a lock for double digits - again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 TFC should have tried harder to keep him. Its too bad the FO is run by morons though. The De Rosario trade TFC made is the looking more and more like the MLS equivalent of the Vince Carter trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I thought that these trades combined with the fact that he wasn't the man in NY would slow him down and he'd be resigned to a 5 goal season or so but wow... great for Dwayne and Canada. It just gets better and better with Dwayne, how great would it be to see him break the Canadian goal record at BMO this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 It just gets better and better with Dwayne, how great would it be to see him break the Canadian goal record at BMO this year. How many does he need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 TFC should have tried harder to keep him. Its too bad the FO is run by morons though. The De Rosario trade TFC made is the looking more and more like the MLS equivalent of the Vince Carter trade. From what i heard they did what they could, they offered to increase his pay without making him a DP. Besides, between DeRo and Cann the precedent that would have been sent to the rest of the team and league would be that TFC could be held hostage at anytime if a star player wanted money and they would give in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 From what i heard they did what they could, they offered to increase his pay without making him a DP. Besides, between DeRo and Cann the precedent that would have been sent to the rest of the team and league would be that TFC could be held hostage at anytime if a star player wanted money and they would give in. Didn't both DeRo and Cann claim they had verbal agreements with the team that were renegged upon? If so, and I honestly can't recall with certainty about Cann, then TFC has already sent a poor message to the players around MLS. They have simply butchered their front office operations since day 1 (they may well be getting things back on track now) but manning up with both DeRo and Cann (if in fact there was a verbal in place) would have gone a long way towards repairing some of the damage done during the first 4 years of operation IMO. Look at the trouble the other TO teams have in recruiting talent, even the Leaf's despite the huge numbers of players coming from Southern Ontario. Setting ones' self up as an employer of choice includes living up to your obligations, no matter how ill concieved, even when the management changes. I agree that any GM is an idiot in telling a player he will always be highest paid, even if it looks that way at the time. Certainly more evidence against Mo J. But he was a duly appointed officer of the club/company when he made that commitment and the organization should have lived up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 How many does he need? Two to tie it, three to break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I can see that being broken by the end of this year. Maybe it is just me, but Derosario seems to be one of those players who is actually becoming more effective as he gets older? I haven't double checked, but it seems that his numbers in MLS keep on improving. Also, some people think he is only effective in MLS and not on the international level? Well, here we are talking about him BREAKING the scoring record for our national team, what more can anyone ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Didn't both DeRo and Cann claim they had verbal agreements with the team that were renegged upon? If so, and I honestly can't recall with certainty about Cann, then TFC has already sent a poor message to the players around MLS. They have simply butchered their front office operations since day 1 (they may well be getting things back on track now) but manning up with both DeRo and Cann (if in fact there was a verbal in place) would have gone a long way towards repairing some of the damage done during the first 4 years of operation IMO. Look at the trouble the other TO teams have in recruiting talent, even the Leaf's despite the huge numbers of players coming from Southern Ontario. Setting ones' self up as an employer of choice includes living up to your obligations, no matter how ill concieved, even when the management changes. I agree that any GM is an idiot in telling a player he will always be highest paid, even if it looks that way at the time. Certainly more evidence against Mo J. But he was a duly appointed officer of the club/company when he made that commitment and the organization should have lived up to it. I don't know what to believe on that one. I could see MoJo being slimey enough to lie to the players, but at the same time I can't see anyone being stupid enough to believe him (ok, Cann who went without an agent for the negotiations and who strikes me as a dull bulb, i do believe could be). If DeRo says he was promised to be made the DP, then why didn't he and his agent insist on that from the start during his contract negotiations back in the Spring of 2009? Why sign for $425K a year for 4 years if you what you really want is to be a DP? It makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I think the original trade was not that bad especially given the circumstances. The key to the trade was Tchani who could have been an excellent player for TFC in the long term. The really bad move was being desperate to trade Tchani when Frings was signed and getting only Iro and Griffit in return. Even though they probably did have to get rid of DeRo, it seems they at least waited to get a good deal for him, the panic move seems to have been the Tchani trade. DeRo for Tchani and Borman is not too bad long term. DeRo for Iro, Griffit and Borman is a terrible trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Tchani wasn't playing well for us and didn't exactly fit into the team. Griffit might be an interesting pick up for us, but Iro has been awful and I hope he doesn't come back next season if he continues playing like he has so far for Toronto. Biggest asset Toronto got in return for DeRo is cap space not players we got in return in trade with New York. With San Jose trade as well, this opened up cap space to sign two DP's and couple of other players who have made a great impact on this team. Once we fix our backline, then Toronto is going to be a good team that will probably make it into the playoffs next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I believe the trade currently stands as DeRo for Iro, Griffit, Borman, allocation and NY's 2012 first round draft pick. As of right now, DC are the clear winners. It's too early to tell what the ultimate end game is for TFC, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I believe the trade currently stands as DeRo for Iro, Griffit, Borman, allocation and NY's 2012 first round draft pick. As of right now, DC are the clear winners. It's too early to tell what the ultimate end game is for TFC, though. Generally it's best to wait before calling a clear winner on a trade but with the 1st being New York's it may as well be our 2nd rounder and I'll call it a comfortable loss, chances are that pick is going to be a nobody. Scary how quickly that trade turned around on us but I guess one positive we can look at is that we traded Julius James for him so if we want to feel better we can just say it was James we traded for that fodder... ahhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I guess one positive we can look at is that we traded Julius James for him so if we want to feel better we can just say it was James we traded for that fodder... ahhhh. Julius James is having a good season. He is being paired with Chad Marshall in the central def for Columbus giving them one of the best tandems in the league. Iro became expendable as a result. In the end, TFC paid a fair price in the end for Dero but certainlt didnt get much back from New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 With NY continuing to implode, that first rounder may be better than originally thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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