Kurosawa1555362267 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 http://www.montrealmls2012.com/stadesaputo.php things that caught my eye: The UM are moving from section 114 to section 132. Price for a season is 250+taxes, how deos that compare to prices in To and Van? Places under the roof have a higher price. There is a family section in one corner were you can't buy season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 This season the supporter's end ticket in Toronto cost $376 for 17 MLS games, the MLS Cup Final and 2 Voyageur's Cup tickets. But this covers the entire south end. It appears the Impact are giving the supporter's a discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 They always said they wanted their tickets to be cheap. They are definitely going that way for the inaugural season. People here have the habit of paying a certain price. Still some people will get a pretty big jump in the price of their tickets because the structure of the seating plan has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlfan Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 What I find odd is they mention 16 games and while this year Canadian Mls teams play 17 league + 1 nutrilite minimum. The other thing is taxes are not included. This year the taxes were included when I bought mine for $ 290. Next year same seat will be either $978. or $1,437 Here are the real prices taxes GST 5% and QST in 2012 will be 9.5% piggybacked on the GST makes it 14.975% $287.44 $402.41 $632.36 $977.29 $1,437.19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Well I am not sure from what I read here, I just know my fingers are crossed so that Montreal does not do either of what Vancouver or Toronto did. Vancouver too high to start. Toronto too high too quickly for ... what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESG Shawn Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I'm paying $330 for Gen. Admission here in Edmonton for a lesser league in a terrible stadium. 14 League games + Nutrilite game vs TFC. Looks like you guys have got a great deal out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverthursday Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I'm paying $330 for Gen. Admission here in Edmonton for a lesser league in a terrible stadium. 14 League games + Nutrilite game vs TFC. Looks like you guys have got a great deal out there. I still think we needed to do that. If we get a 7,000 - 10,000 seat stadium then I can bet we see $150 - $350 season tickets. But even if we sell Foote out (3,500 "seats") and times that by $20, then we end up with $ 980,000 for 14 games. I think they already spent that on player and coaches saleries. Plus the amount of personal income in Edmonton is high. We can spend the $330 without living off of kraft dinner and apples, like I did for the year and a half that I was homeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESG Shawn Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I agree with your argument re: stadium size, and premium seating subsidizing the cheap seats, but thing is, we arent selling out Foote. The number one reason is the ticket price. There is no other reason. I know countless people who were super pumped about going to the Edmonton Capitals home opener last week, and don't care about baseball, they were just happy to be at an outdoor sporting event for $10, with cheap beer and food. There is no way in hell we should be paying more to watch NASL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 10$ always were the cheapest tickets for the Impact. It was pretty nice at Claude Robillard because half of them were that price (and even less if you consider giveways and rebate to youth soccer club). Once we got to Stade Saputo the tickets were a bit higher but that was expected. I suppose Edmonton is gonna see something like that in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 They always said they wanted their tickets to be cheap. They are definitely going that way for the inaugural season. People here have the habit of paying a certain price. Still some people will get a pretty big jump in the price of their tickets because the structure of the seating plan has changed. Yes ironically ours are jumping from 290$ to 850$ even though we can move down to "better" seats and pay much less this is all due to the new roof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverthursday Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I agree with your argument re: stadium size, and premium seating subsidizing the cheap seats, but thing is, we arent selling out Foote. The number one reason is the ticket price. There is no other reason. I know countless people who were super pumped about going to the Edmonton Capitals home opener last week, and don't care about baseball, they were just happy to be at an outdoor sporting event for $10, with cheap beer and food. There is no way in hell we should be paying more to watch NASL. But Shawn if we charged $10 a ticket then the most they would make is $35,000 a game. Right now they are selling tickets 1,800 and upwards. Those are sold tickets and not who is actually there, but 1,800 times $20 is $3,600. If they get 2,500 people out on the weekend then that extra $15,000 for that afternoon is completely worth it. And the Capitals are not a good comparison at all. I despise considering them "pro." A bunch of washed up, former 'riod junkies who have no future other than kind of entertaining 1,500 kids and a few really drunk young adults. The NASL has players that are going places, We have guys on our team that will see the MLS or leagues elsewhere in the world. All the NASL teams have higher caliber players with their futures ahead of them. $20 to watch professional sports is low end. Until we can get a bigger facility then just heckle your friends into supporting the team in a way they can. Let's face it, those same friends probably have no qualms dropping twenty bucks in two and a half hours at a club. I don't think people are not coming because of the price, I think people are not coming because they still need to see FC Edmonton play in competition for another year, before attaching themselves to a soccer team in Edmonton. History isn't on our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedinathan Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I'm completely torn on the Edmonton debate. I personally have no problem spending $330 on season tickets. Its cheaper than the Eskimos (and you get more games) as well as a higher quality than the Capitals. However, I like the Capitals and their $10 tickets. They have the money machine of the Oilers behind them though, so you have to consider that they are able to offer $10 tickets, $3 beer, and fireworks and still be able to pull even because the Oilers will make money. I feel like not many people take the Capitals seriously though, in part because of the gimmicks that they put out there. Most of my friends want to go because its cheap and there's a bonus, not because they like the team. I'd be willing to bet less than 50 people in the stands could name more than 3 Capitals, whereas probably 50% of Foote could name 3 Eddies. For Montreal: Compared to what we're paying out here, about 300 for MLS action seems like a good deal to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 The UM are moving from section 114 to section 132. Price for a season is 250+taxes, how deos that compare to prices in TRonto There is a family section in one corner were you can't buy season tickets. 250 dollars is a very good deal compared to Toronto. We paid 200 in the first year but it's has gone up every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 The UM are pretty happy with the price, some are not happy that we are moving from one end of the stadium to the other but nothing can be done about that. It's the people who are on the side of the stadium that really get the price hike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakTFC Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 The UM are pretty happy with the price, some are not happy that we are moving from one end of the stadium to the other but nothing can be done about that. It's the people who are on the side of the stadium that really get the price hike. whats the purpose of this move? I don't get it. Also, I'm assuming your new section will not be a terrace like 114 is now. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 I'm not involved deeply enough (kid, familiy, weird job schedule) with the UM to know these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 whats the purpose of this move? I don't get it. Also, I'm assuming your new section will not be a terrace like 114 is now. Am I right? 1: to make accomodating away fans easier. The away section is moving from it's current spot to the other end, of the lateral, which is good because it moves away support from the only two entrances of the stadium. Since that would put the away support near 114,supporters section switches across the field, keeping away support who fights 12 year old girls and people in casts, away from the exit. 2: not individual seating, but it hasn't been worked out yet. Many will miss the holes in 114 and the view, but I'm sure we'll find a way to enjoy being a few feet from the players tunnel, somehow... Well I am not sure from what I read here, I just know my fingers are crossed so that Montreal does not do either of what Vancouver or Toronto did. Vancouver too high to start. Toronto too high too quickly for ... what exactly? We knew IMFC would do exactly what they had promised to do. There was absolutely zero chance of a Vancouver situation happening, as we had pretty much known our price before the Southsiders even knew theirs. We stayed on top of the club and made sure they wouldn't try to **** us, and they didn't try to **** us because they know they can't win if they tried something like what WFC did. I don't see a Toronoto situation happening either, for the same reasons. Vancouver's problems are only due to the people in Vancouver, who let it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 The UM are pretty happy with the price, some are not happy that we are moving from one end of the stadium to the other but nothing can be done about that. It's the people who are on the side of the stadium that really get the price hike. UM was consulted on the possibility of switching sides and were in favour of it for a number of reasons. Additionally those involved in the negotiations consulted the other UM members before anything was agreed to and I don't recall there being any dissension on the issue. It is possible that there are people who are semi-regulars in the kop but not UM members or new members to UM who don't understand the reasons for the move and may be unhappy about it I have not heard anyone complain about it so far so I am not sure where you are getting that some are unhappy with this. As Trident mentioned there is the security issue for away fans. There are two back entrances to the stadium that are currently not usually open that will be opened in MLS and it will be easier for security to bring away fans in and out of the back entrances. Being near the player tunnel will also be better and we will be facing the scoreboard screen to see replays/time remaining. However, the main advantage is we will be in the front of the stadium near the main entrance where most fans go in and out and spend most of their time during intermission. UM will have a lot more visibility and contact with other fans here. Obviously we are fond of 114 having spent several years there and will miss it but it makes more sense to be on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakTFC Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 UM was consulted on the possibility of switching sides and were in favour of it for a number of reasons. Additionally those involved in the negotiations consulted the other UM members before anything was agreed to and I don't recall there being any dissension on the issue. It is possible that there are people who are semi-regulars in the kop but not UM members or new members to UM who don't understand the reasons for the move and may be unhappy about it I have not heard anyone complain about it so far so I am not sure where you are getting that some are unhappy with this. As Trident mentioned there is the security issue for away fans. There are two back entrances to the stadium that are currently not usually open that will be opened in MLS and it will be easier for security to bring away fans in and out of the back entrances. Being near the player tunnel will also be better and we will be facing the scoreboard screen to see replays/time remaining. However, the main advantage is we will be in the front of the stadium near the main entrance where most fans go in and out and spend most of their time during intermission. UM will have a lot more visibility and contact with other fans here. Obviously we are fond of 114 having spent several years there and will miss it but it makes more sense to be on the other side. That was my major issue with standing in 114 for the few games I came out to see while I was at Concordia. It was really annoying having to turn all the way around the get a glimpse at the scoreboard. The move seems good and I wish you guys the best of luck off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 keeping away support who fights 12 year old girls I would have pegged you for 15, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I would have pegged you for 15, at least. Such wit in such a small package, you've definitely proved you're an awesome fella with that one. Though to be fair, small young girl montreal fans have been attacked after attending the Montreal-Toronto Matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 That was my major issue with standing in 114 for the few games I came out to see while I was at Concordia. It was really annoying having to turn all the way around the get a glimpse at the scoreboard. The move seems good and I wish you guys the best of luck off the field. Well, it's not like it takes an extreme amount of effort to do that for a second or so, and it was extremely helpful for capos and anynoe else who turned their backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakTFC Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Well, it's not like it takes an extreme amount of effort to do that for a second or so, and it was extremely helpful for capos and anynoe else who turned their backs. Oh thats an extreme amount of effort for me and I never considered the capo issue but i'm sure the vast majority will prefer being able to look forward and see the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Oh thats an extreme amount of effort for me and I never considered the capo issue but i'm sure the vast majority will prefer being able to look forward and see the screen. I'd argue no. It helped capos, and it helped the entire group when our back was turned. So basically, whenever we couldnt see the game, we could see the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie Monster Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Let's assume Stade Saputo & Empire Field / BC Place are the same building: Section 132 : $250 (MTL), $494 (VAN) (centre, behind goal) Section 130 : $350 (MTL), $418 (VAN) (off-centre, behind goal) Section 128 : $350 (MTL), $319 (VAN) (corner) Section 126 : $550 (MTL), $589 (VAN) (side - 18 yard box) Section 123 : $850 (MTL), $969 (VAN) (half line) Vancouver prices are taxed at an additional 12% + $10 service charge per order. We received two NCC tickets at the time of purchase, and the Manchester City friendly was included as a freebie later. Obviously there is not a huge price difference from the corners to the half line, but Vancouver royally f---ed up it's supporters section behind the goal. We have three price points across five sections (behind the goal extending outwards to the corner), and we have the most expensive supporters end in the league. Why? Because according to our FO, "...there is a perceived value in what happens there." Translation: You make your sections look like fun, so we are going to charge people more money to be there. My seats are on the outside edge of the corner, and there are stairs immediately next to me. On the other side of the stairs (moving towards the half line) is the next section. After taxes and fees, my seats are $305 cheaper than the guy six feet away from me with the exact same view. Glad to see your FO did it the right way. Well done, guys, very glad to have you join us in 2012. You truly deserve to be up there with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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