canucklefan Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=23914&rank=203 Canada is now 7th between CONCACAF nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Well we're closer to Panama, and it, of course, brings up the conversation we've been having for the last couple months of whether or not we even want to be 6th and not partake in the early stage of WCQ against a minnow. To be honest I haven't read that topic in a bit so I'm not sure what the popular concensus is right now. Unless we're able to book two or three winnable friendlies for the fall, I still think we should hold tight in 7th and play the minnows for some easy FIFA points. Anyone know what kind of points we earned for beating St. VAG back in 07/08? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaldo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I still think we should hold tight in 7th and play the minnows for some easy FIFA points.What good are the FIFA points other than seeding for WCQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigorio Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 What good are the FIFA points other than seeding for WCQ? self-respect. Never nice seeing yourself sit below Guatemala, Grenada and the likes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS1327 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 My belief would be 6th wouldn't be awful. We would avoid playing Costa Rica and Jamaica. But playing in the fall is a must. Hopefully get some friendlies in there to get ready to qualify! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPanic Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I have no problems with 7th 1) against a minnow we have a better chance of a blow out, which will a) build confidence and allow us to sub in any uncapped players to lock them up 2) allows for another home match = another chance for more people to see them = (hopefully) more exposure, hype etc and 3) we should not be afraid of the other CONCACAF teams. if we are going to qualify we will have to beat some of them anyway, doing it earlier or later, it has to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 self-respect. Never nice seeing yourself sit below Guatemala, Grenada and the likes... I'd rather play the teams we've been playing, be ranked 12th because we lost to good teams, and then rip new *******s in most of the countries in CONCACAF when it comes to tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusch to the Corner Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I hope we avoid 6th for purely selfish reasons... I like watching CMNT games on TV no matter who we play, and I think that WC qualification games (even if they're against minnows)are much more likely to be on TV than potential friendlies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I hope we avoid 6th for purely selfish reasons... I like watching CMNT games on TV no matter who we play, and I think that WC qualification games (even if they're against minnows)are much more likely to be on TV than potential friendlies. I'm with you on this one too! Add to that the previously mentioned reasons (building confidence, capping players, adding depth etc) and I really wouldn't mind us playing in the preliminary round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derofan Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Plus it gives a chance for the team to gel more and gain continuity from one another lets face it playing once every four months is not efficient I hope we avoid 6th for purely selfish reasons... I like watching CMNT games on TV no matter who we play, and I think that WC qualification games (even if they're against minnows)are much more likely to be on TV than potential friendlies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Not to mention a chance for some of our attacking players to pad their goal scoring stats. Heck, Rob Friend could even get one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Not to mention a chance for some of our attacking players to pad their goal scoring stats. Heck, Rob Friend could even get one! Ya I'm a little tired of seeing Mitchell is our all time leader with 19, I'm looking forward to someone breaking that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 One other bonus I just thought of is might give us a reason for a road trip to some exotic Carribean Island! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaldo Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Ya I'm a little tired of seeing Mitchell is our all time leader with 19, I'm looking forward to someone breaking thatMitchell scored his goals against competitive teams. If someone passes him I hope they haven't padded their total with a bunch of goals against Caribbean minnows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Mitchell scored his goals against competitive teams. If someone passes him I hope they haven't padded their total with a bunch of goals against Caribbean minnows. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Mitchell scored his goals against competitive teams. If someone passes him I hope they haven't padded their total with a bunch of goals against Caribbean minnows. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Depends on your definition of competitive team. Here is who Mitchell scored against: Guatemala - 6 goals Jamaica - 3 T&T - 3 New Zealand - 2 Honduras - 2 Haiti, Ghana, El Salvador - 1 No world-beaters in the lot, but no absolute minnows either. Any big time national team scorer in almost any region of the world generally has a bunch against weak teams (say sub-100 FIFA rankings). I don't see why we should feel guilty about having the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Depends on your definition of competitive team. Here is who Mitchell scored against: Guatemala - 6 goals Jamaica - 3 T&T - 3 New Zealand - 2 Honduras - 2 Haiti, Ghana, El Salvador - 1 No world-beaters in the lot, but no absolute minnows either. Any big time national team scorer in almost any region of the world generally has a bunch against weak teams (say sub-100 FIFA rankings). I don't see why we should feel guilty about having the same. This ^ All other nations have scorers with much higher totals than 19... even those minnow nations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Depends on your definition of competitive team. Here is who Mitchell scored against: Guatemala - 6 goals Jamaica - 3 T&T - 3 New Zealand - 2 Honduras - 2 Haiti, Ghana, El Salvador - 1 No world-beaters in the lot, but no absolute minnows either. Any big time national team scorer in almost any region of the world generally has a bunch against weak teams (say sub-100 FIFA rankings). I don't see why we should feel guilty about having the same. I think the comment was in response of a post wishing someone move ahead of Mitchell in the MNT all time leading scorer list. I think it would just look better if the guy who moves ahead of him doesn't have half of his goal scored against Caribbean minnows since Mitchell has scored his goal against decent opposition. No one would feel guilty about it but it wouldn't look as good IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I think the comment was in response of a post wishing someone move ahead of Mitchell in the MNT all time leading scorer list. I think it would just look better if the guy who moves ahead of him doesn't have half of his goal scored against Caribbean minnows since Mitchell has scored his goal against decent opposition. No one would feel guilty about it but it wouldn't look as good IMO. We are comparing Mitchell achievement with Canadian players not with players from others nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Depends on your definition of competitive team. Here is who Mitchell scored against: Guatemala - 6 goals Jamaica - 3 T&T - 3 New Zealand - 2 Honduras - 2 Haiti, Ghana, El Salvador - 1 No world-beaters in the lot, but no absolute minnows either. Any big time national team scorer in almost any region of the world generally has a bunch against weak teams (say sub-100 FIFA rankings). I don't see why we should feel guilty about having the same. 30 years ago NZ were minnows. Jamaica and T&T were much weaker in the late 80's and early 90's then they are now. Other than that, the rest of the teams he scored against were respectable. Probably not much different than Ali's scoring record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaldo Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 30 years ago NZ were minnows. Jamaica and T&T were much weaker in the late 80's and early 90's then they are now. Other than that, the rest of the teams he scored against were respectable. Probably not much different than Ali's scoring record.Hey! T&T were a goal away from qualifying for Italia '90. There's a big difference between NZ (even from back then) and Turks and Caicos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 30 years ago NZ were minnows. Jamaica and T&T were much weaker in the late 80's and early 90's then they are now. Other than that, the rest of the teams he scored against were respectable. Probably not much different than Ali's scoring record. 30 years ago New Zealand were going to a World Cup :-). And Dale Mitchell was playing midfield as often as not. Lousy coach, but one of Canada's greatest players. All time top 11, no question about it. But it would be nice to see a striker not just past, but shatter Mitchell's, goal scoring record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Hey! T&T were a goal away from qualifying for Italia '90. There's a big difference between NZ (even from back then) and Turks and Caicos. Looking at our 80's results, Jamaica and T&T were competititve teams that we beat by 1 goal most of the time but who did also draw with us. You are right it's not the same as Belize or SVG that you expect to at least beat by a minimum of 3 goals. The teams we would face in the propose CONCACAF format would be a joke and I could see one player scoring 7-8 goals in 6 group games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 OK, if we're making comparisons with Turks and Caicos then yeah, there's no comparison...my point was those teams weren't as strong as they are now (or in T&T's case their 2006 cycle), these were teams we should have expected to beat and usually did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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