Soccerpro Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Next wish: TFC please move Sturgis, Soolsma, Harden, Peterson and Gargan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 From the Toronto FC twitter: "Aron Winter on #TorontoFC rumours: "De Rosario still a member of our club." .. #TFC #MLS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 All I see are other news sources quoting the report from Sportsnet...I don't think TFC are that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 All I see are other news sources quoting the report from Sportsnet...I don't think TFC are that stupid. Seriously though, why would they go through all the difficulty of not sending him to Celtic only to have him traded after two games? The second of which may have been on eof his best with TFC. I also didn't see this supposed "disinterest" people keep referencing. In conclusion, they're pulling our legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 NYRB would win with such a trade. Will believe it when official on tfc's web site or mls soccer. BUT, as I wrote somewhere else today - TFC need a proper centre forward. Maicon and Gordon have a good role to play with the team, but are not what Winter really needs in that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Wow, is this a kick in the teeth to TFC or what. DeRo had looked like he was playing in great form in this new system. I am pretty stunned by this, it could be a April Fool's Joke, but seems like it might be real, not sure if they are getting full value back in Tchani and Borman, only time will tell I guess. But DeRo, Henry, Marquez, Lindpere, Taino, Richards, Ream, Neilsen and Agudelo. Watch Out MLS, that team is stacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 From what I've gathered, the deal is real but there's a legal issue holding it back from happening and it may not happen at all. That's according to the Soccer by Ives guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Seriously though, why would they go through all the difficulty of not sending him to Celtic only to have him traded after two games? The second of which may have been on eof his best with TFC. I also didn't see this supposed "disinterest" people keep referencing. In conclusion, they're pulling our legs. I don't know whether it is true or not. However, to answer your question while they would have got a transfer fee from Celtic they would not have gotten any players in return. The players being mentioned in this trade include one guy who would probably be the starting LB for TFC and another very young player who seems destined to be an MLS star and a well rounded star at that unlike DeRo who is a mix of strengths and weaknesses. If true this might be a classic trade that is good for both sides in that DeRo is a much better player on a strong team that can cover his many faults than one that is rebuilding. New York would be closer to its "win now" goal and TFC would be in a good place for the future. So far I haven't been very impressed by Winter's moves or signings but this deal would really impress me. Of course if you are blinded by DeRo's goal scoring totals and don't see the many negatives he brings, then it will not look like a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livesareavailable Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Need we mention that Celtic had no interest in paying a fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I don't know whether it is true or not. However, to answer your question while they would have got a transfer fee from Celtic they would not have gotten any players in return. The players being mentioned in this trade include one guy who would probably be the starting LB for TFC and another very young player who seems destined to be an MLS star and a well rounded star at that unlike DeRo who is a mix of strengths and weaknesses. If true this might be a classic trade that is good for both sides in that DeRo is a much better player on a strong team that can cover his many faults than one that is rebuilding. New York would be closer to its "win now" goal and TFC would be in a good place for the future. So far I haven't been very impressed by Winter's moves or signings but this deal would really impress me. Of course if you are blinded by DeRo's goal scoring totals and don't see the many negatives he brings, then it will not look like a good deal. They've been trying to move him for some time. They were shopping him around and LA and NY put in credible bids. It appears NY was more credible than TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I don't know whether it is true or not. However, to answer your question while they would have got a transfer fee from Celtic they would not have gotten any players in return. The players being mentioned in this trade include one guy who would probably be the starting LB for TFC and another very young player who seems destined to be an MLS star and a well rounded star at that unlike DeRo who is a mix of strengths and weaknesses. If true this might be a classic trade that is good for both sides in that DeRo is a much better player on a strong team that can cover his many faults than one that is rebuilding. New York would be closer to its "win now" goal and TFC would be in a good place for the future. So far I haven't been very impressed by Winter's moves or signings but this deal would really impress me. Of course if you are blinded by DeRo's goal scoring totals and don't see the many negatives he brings, then it will not look like a good deal. There's no blinding here, in the Timbers game he saved the defense several times. He looked excellent. As far as his goal output goes, yeah, I would really hate it if we traded away our only goal-scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 So far I haven't been very impressed by Winter's moves or signings but this deal would really impress me. I wonder how much influence Mariner has/had in these proceedings? If you want to add younger, effective MLS players with upside in building for the future then you need to offer up a marketable commodity in return and DeRo fit the build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 There's no blinding here, in the Timbers game he saved the defense several times. He looked excellent. As far as his goal output goes, yeah, I would really hate it if we traded away our only goal-scorer. He may have had a strong game against Portland but I tend not to judge players on one game. He is a defensive liability by any measure and that is why he is more effective on a good team like Houston that has other players to cover his mistakes and allow him to roam. I also think he is in large part to blame for TFC having only one goal scorer. So much of TFC's attack is destroyed because he is hogging on to the ball, not passing and losing one on one battles. In other words, even offensively he is only a positive influence when he is actually scoring himself, most of the rest of the time he was an offensive liability. Now it is possible that Winter might have been able to influence him in these regards in a positive way, the layoff for (I think) Santos goal was nice, but if that was the case I am not sure Winter would trade him. Since I am not a TFC fan, I would prefer this deal does not go through because I think it is a pretty even deal for this year and strongly in TFC's favour in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 He may have had a strong game against Portland but I tend not to judge players on one game. He is a defensive liability by any measure and that is why he is more effective on a good team like Houston that has other players to cover his mistakes and allow him to roam. I also think he is in large part to blame for TFC having only one goal scorer. So much of TFC's attack is destroyed because he is hogging on to the ball, not passing and losing one on one battles. In other words, even offensively he is only a positive influence when he is actually scoring himself, most of the rest of the time he was an offensive liability. Now it is possible that Winter might have been able to influence him in these regards in a positive way, the layoff for (I think) Santos goal was nice, but if that was the case I am not sure Winter would trade him. Since I am not a TFC fan, I would prefer this deal does not go through because I think it is a pretty even deal for this year and strongly in TFC's favour in the future. Grizz I know you don't like DeRo but he has been a different player for TFC this season... no ball hogging, no getting caught up field, he's helped in defence, played a smart passing possession game and has a goal and an assist so far to show for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StartingEleven Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Grizz I know you don't like DeRo but he has been a different player for TFC this season... no ball hogging, no getting caught up field, he's helped in defence, played a smart passing possession game and has a goal and an assist so far to show for it. Agree 100%, further to that DeRo has been a scoring leader on every team hes played for, barring maybe his first couple seasons, Red Bull New York just became the scariest team on the east coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Ives Galarcep states that: According to multiple sources, both teams had agreed to the deal and submitted it to MLS for approval, but in the approval process it was discovered that one of the players in the trade had a past legal issue that could keep them from playing for their new team. http://www.soccerbyives.net/ FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 So...obviously somebody can't come to Canada....wonder what THAT story is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Probably DeRo put a cap in somebody's ass when he was all gangster on the mean streets of Scarborough. That **** is considered a plus to your visa application in Texas, but probably doesn't go over well in New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Okay, so knowing Dwayne's "troubling history" and salary demands the two richest and arguably best teams in MLS are willing to make credible bids for his goal-scoring services. Did I read that right? Just asking. Well, I'm pretty sure you lads out Toronto way are fu'ked a-gin this year. Not saying a move wasn't inevitable things being what they are, just saying it's pretty much official at this point. LOL, unless the Dutch can pull a rabbit out of a hat you're fu'ked. But I guess that's what takes some of the sting out. The part about the move being inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 DeRo has NEVER had a bad reputation in this league until last season when *gasp* how dare he! He asked to be paid accordingly for all these years he's been an MLS star and watched new players of similar or less quality enter the league and make 3 times his salary. DeRo has always been known as a guy any winning team wants... its no surprise that the 3 arguably biggest clubs in MLS (in terms of $ or championships) Houston, LA and NY all want him as Cheeta said! Dom Kinnear one of the most respected and succesful managers in the league wouldn't possibly be trying to get Dwayne back would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I wish we could trade him from the Canadian squad for three young prospects Talk about more trouble that you're worth. And will the drama ever end in TO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyCanuck Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 DeRo has NEVER had a bad reputation in this league until last season when *gasp* how dare he! He asked to be paid accordingly for all these years he's been an MLS star and watched new players of similar or less quality enter the league and make 3 times his salary. DeRo has always been known as a guy any winning team wants... its no surprise that the 3 arguably biggest clubs in MLS (in terms of $ or championships) Houston, LA and NY all want him as Cheeta said! Dom Kinnear one of the most respected and succesful managers in the league wouldn't possibly be trying to get Dwayne back would he? So if that's the problem with his rep, and it's valid... the questions remains: Why did the D-Bag sign that contract in the first place? It's been obvious since JDG showed up that DeRo wanted pay-equity... that is typical of a me-first attitude, not anything you'd want from your leader... So if the contract was unfair, why'd he agree to it in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 DeRo has NEVER had a bad reputation in this league until last season when *gasp* how dare he! He asked to be paid accordingly for all these years he's been an MLS star and watched new players of similar or less quality enter the league and make 3 times his salary. DeRo has always been known as a guy any winning team wants... its no surprise that the 3 arguably biggest clubs in MLS (in terms of $ or championships) Houston, LA and NY all want him as Cheeta said! Dom Kinnear one of the most respected and succesful managers in the league wouldn't possibly be trying to get Dwayne back would he? A little bit of a stretch there. Dom Kinnear seemed quite happy to get rid of De Ro for a bag of peanuts two seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Dero had to go, you can't go into that type of contract dispute and expect to be playing there the next season. De ro talked his way out of playing for his hometown team. If you ask me, Toronto isn't better right now, but Toronto will be a better team going forward to rid themselves of De ro in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 It's official now: http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/04/tfc-acquires-two-de-rosario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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