Drew Shaw Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 It's hard to know where the two expansion teams will finish. I'll admit that I'm biased, but I'm going to say it right now - Vancouver will finish with more points than Toronto. The Caps just signed a striker from the Swiss league who has played in the Champions League, and their roster looks set. The Reds just signed a player from the Dutch amateur league, and have an incomplete roster which includes a disgruntled Adriann Cann. I'll also be surprised if the Whitecaps don't beat Toronto in attendance this season, partly because of novelty, and partly because of the opening of BC Place, but mostly because I think that Vancouver fans are going to be more numerous than Toronto fans, just like at CFL games. Not that I'm trying to riile anyone up. What do you think, and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 +1 A team with a system that has been set for a few years and is being supplemented? or a team in basically re-start mode implementing a whole new system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 All pretty much makes sense. I don't think there are a lot of people in Toronto who would flatly disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 All pretty much makes sense. I don't think there are a lot of people in Toronto who would flatly disagree. Except those whose first or last name begin with R! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 The title of this thread is quite useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I never predict results, all I can do is talk about gut feelings. Watching the Cascadia games last weekend my feeling was pretty good, not great, not incredible, but pretty good. Even surprised to see Teitur have the team play out of the back into the midfield, or at least try (he is a pretty limited coach but may work for this season). I do not thing the Caps will make the playoffs. They may surprise me though. Rivalries with Seattle, Portland and TFC will keep the team focussed. As will the Voyageurs Cup. Better than TFC? Who cares really, they are not even in our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 You guys enjoying your circle jerk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Hilarious coming from Toronto, where the verbal diarrhea is bottled and sold to fans for extra revenue. Just a little reminder: the Whitecaps are a week from their MLS opener. Do you remember the incessant wanking before the TFC opener? Does it at all compare? Just what team's fans have spent years in dire need of a reality check? A hint: not Caps'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Yup, the over inflated expectations are pretty comparable. Except we weren't measuring our dicks and trying to compare them to other teams. You guys out on the left coast seem to love comparing yourselves to us. Here's a hint, you're like an annoying little neigbour kid whose Mom is friends with our Mom - we don't give a **** about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Nice to see you back Jeffrey. Hope you can share some opinion in the women's side some time in the near future. I've lived in both places and as an outsider when it comes to soccer, I don't see much difference between the two when it comes to the game. Both cities have a pretty similar spectrum of personalities and fans ranging across the board from a healthy perspective to egocentricity. We'll get a good idea of the state of the nation next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Yup, the over inflated expectations are pretty comparable. Except we weren't measuring our dicks and trying to compare them to other teams. You guys out on the left coast seem to love comparing yourselves to us. Here's a hint, you're like an annoying little neigbour kid whose Mom is friends with our Mom - we don't give a **** about you. Most V's, particularly those from Vancouver, have been pretty supportive of TFC -or at least neutral- for the past 4 years. This is a pretty innocent thread where people should be able to express their predictions without people making more references to their genitals. If there's something to get upset about, it's that the home page to this site has linked some serious rubbish recently. Not the predictions of who will finish where, obviously there is home team bias, but the apparent inability to check any facts. It's funny when US commentators embarrass themselves, but I'd think Canadians -particularly Vs- would be a little more inclined to actually think before they post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Except those whose first or last name begin with R! Oh look, a shitty comedian! Or are you a shitty mindreader? Or perhaps a shitty troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Man... everybody chill out. There is a smiley there Rudi.... come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 The Whitecaps have one, TFC and its forefathers do not. TFC also happens to have rather useless owners. Caps owners and front office is a bit better, screwing over the Southsiders notwithstanding. The basis for optimism in Vancouver is basically that, as it has nothing to do with players or coaching or facilities, on paper none of that looks particularly enticing for the Caps. So it is the tradition. Caps fans are not used to seeing the team with a losing record, it was totally exceptional. TFC fans even celebrate having a losing record. There is a big difference. The difference between being happy and being a happy fool. So it is a thin premise, I admit, the past. Though funny how these things have relevance for the present. I perdict (as the word is spelt in Ontario) Vancouver will spend a rather short time with a losing record in MLS, and that it will continue to be exceptional. Likely for the first months of this season, but I doubt much longer. It is not our way to being a losing team. And that is basically what all this bravado is based on for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Man... everybody chill out. There is a smiley there Rudi.... come on. There's always a smiley next to his trolling posts. I'm tired of it. Grizzly is a trolling asshole. Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 The Whitecaps have one, TFC and its forefathers do not. TFC also happens to have rather useless owners. Caps owners and front office is a bit better, screwing over the Southsiders notwithstanding. The basis for optimism in Vancouver is basically that, as it has nothing to do with players or coaching or facilities, on paper none of that looks particularly enticing for the Caps. So it is the tradition. Caps fans are not used to seeing the team with a losing record, it was totally exceptional. TFC fans even celebrate having a losing record. There is a big difference. The difference between being happy and being a happy fool. So it is a thin premise, I admit, the past. Though funny how these things have relevance for the present. I perdict (as the word is spelt in Ontario) Vancouver will spend a rather short time with a losing record in MLS, and that it will continue to be exceptional. Likely for the first months of this season, but I doubt much longer. It is not our way to being a losing team. And that is basically what all this bravado is based on for me. I won't bother with all the other stuff, but the person who originally wrote perdict is from Alberta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Most V's, particularly those from Vancouver, have been pretty supportive of TFC -or at least neutral- for the past 4 years. This is a pretty innocent thread where people should be able to express their predictions without people making more references to their genitals. If there's something to get upset about, it's that the home page to this site has linked some serious rubbish recently. Not the predictions of who will finish where, obviously there is home team bias, but the apparent inability to check any facts. It's funny when US commentators embarrass themselves, but I'd think Canadians -particularly Vs- would be a little more inclined to actually think before they post. I don't have a problem with predictions, if you think Vancouver will make the playoffs or even win MLS Cup that's your opinion and I don't have a beef with you being optimistic about your team. But the OP is comparing your team to ours and there's no need to. It seems the fashion lately is to crap on TFC and their Dutch amateur signings and a few of your fellow Vancouverites seemed more than happy to pile on - which is why i equated it to a circle jerk, a bunch of guys stroking their Whitecap fan-dicks. As for Duane Rollins' MLS prediction piece, I think he's just doing his job and pretty much has to put something out there. Predicting the upcoming MLS season is a fools game and I would dread having to put something together because you're going to end up with a big helping of ridicule from a handful of fan bases when the smoke clears. Perhaps he doesn't feel the same way I do and truly enjoys predictions and really thinks TFC will sneak into the playoffs - I don't know. Either way I'm not sure I agree with him having TFC 10th, but hey anything can happen. But I'm guessing you have more of a beef with him ranking you guys 14th right? So, out of curiousity, where do you think the Caps will end up? edit: Oh wait, you weren't talking about Rollins. Like Ed said, what did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Predictions in a parity league are almost hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Most V's, particularly those from Vancouver, have been pretty supportive of TFC -or at least neutral- for the past 4 years. This is a pretty innocent thread where people should be able to express their predictions without people making more references to their genitals. If there's something to get upset about, it's that the home page to this site has linked some serious rubbish recently. Not the predictions of who will finish where, obviously there is home team bias, but the apparent inability to check any facts. It's funny when US commentators embarrass themselves, but I'd think Canadians -particularly Vs- would be a little more inclined to actually think before they post. I've been drop dead busy this week but what did I miss?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 So, out of curiousity, where do you think the Caps will end up? I'm not sure. 14th may be the spot, but I would think top half of the league is reasonable. I don't think there's anything "expansion" about the club other than the (factual) title. I think they've signed quality players from Europe, but these guys often need a full year to adjust to the game and culture. I would be incredibly disappointed if we weren't in the CONCACAF Group Stage. I believe we are favourites for the Voyageurs Cup, and need to prove it. You should be flattered at comparisons to Toronto. It's the MLS most people here have followed. It's the MLS team Vancouver has played the most in competitive matches. And we've done quite well against what appear on paper to be much better TFC sides to what's in your camp today. Vancouver is much improved from the 2010 squad that competed in the NCC with the addtions of DeMerit, Rochat, Chiumiento, & Hassli (who shoudn't be judged on not being capped by the Swiss National Team, given that he's French ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I'm not sure. 14th may be the spot, but I would think top half of the league is reasonable. I don't think there's anything "expansion" about the club other than the (factual) title. I think they've signed quality players from Europe, but these guys often need a full year to adjust to the game and culture. I would be incredibly disappointed if we weren't in the CONCACAF Group Stage. I believe we are favourites for the Voyageurs Cup, and need to prove it. You should be flattered at comparisons to Toronto. It's the MLS most people here have followed. It's the MLS team Vancouver has played the most in competitive matches. And we've done quite well against what appear on paper to be much better TFC sides to what's in your camp today. Vancouver is much improved from the 2010 squad that competed in the NCC with the addtions of DeMerit, Rochat, Chiumiento, & Hassli (who shoudn't be judged on not being capped by the Swiss National Team, given that he's French ). I can't remember but did Dunfield played in last year NCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Dunfield (and the rest of the new guys from last year, actually) joined the Whitecaps well after the Voyageurs Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpoma Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 You should be flattered at comparisons to Toronto. TFC fans should be flattered that TFC are being compared to Vancouver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Yup, the over inflated expectations are pretty comparable. Except we weren't measuring our dicks and trying to compare them to other teams. You guys out on the left coast seem to love comparing yourselves to us. Here's a hint, you're like an annoying little neigbour kid whose Mom is friends with our Mom - we don't give a **** about you.You will give a **** when we make the playoffs in year one and you miss again, how many times will that be now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Dunfield (and the rest of the new guys from last year, actually) joined the Whitecaps well after the Voyageurs Cup. So they still joined us well before the MLS pre-season. TFC won't be with there till the Summer. Not sure if anyone told Winter, but the season starts in March. The NCC is gonna be so fun this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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