narduch Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 The start these fans are referring to was a Scottish League Cup match against Motherwell, a team that finished 3rd in the SPL last season. And as you can see from the comments many of those supporters now want him in their XI. Don't think that getting into Rangers is like getting into any Scottish 3rd tier side or that training and playing for them is like playing for a 3rd division team. He is playing in Scotland's 4th tier, not their 3rd tier. How serious do you think Motherwell is taking an early round of the League Cup?\ And when exactly are we suppose to cap him? During our next two CRUCIAL World Cup Qualifiers? No way! Let's not make the same mistake we made with Jamie Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Aird will not get capped for Scotland until Rangers finds their way back to the SPL (or perhaps the First Division). The manager, Craig Levein, has more or less said as much because he doesn't think playing in SFL 3 gives you the week in, week out competition you need when you are playing int'l football. I think Aird is an interesting prospect but I don't think we should be calling him in right away. Sorry, I'm not a believer of capping someone for potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 He's not even close to our CMNT yet. Certainly not if Di Chiara wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Why are we worried about Scotsmen? For ****'s sake let's stop obsessing about people who don't give a **** about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Why are we worried about Scotsmen? For ****'s sake let's stop obsessing about people who don't give a **** about us. +1 Just cause he got a bit of game action, that doesn't mean he's even good enough for our U20 team, let alone the senior team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I will say this for the kid, he's only 17! He's playing for one of the bigger clubs in Europe (as a Hearts supporter, that really hurt typing out). Ok, he's in the 4th tier right now but if that CONTINUES over the next year or two, we have to be open minded about checking on his interest in playing for Canada. We aren't good enough to not explore that avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 He really should be called up to the U20 squad. If he doesn't want to participate then fuk'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipeg Fury Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 he really should be called up to the u20 squad. If he doesn't want to participate then fuk'em. yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 He really should be called up to the U20 squad. If he doesn't want to participate then fuk'em. See, one of the reasons I suggested calling him was to get him with our U20s, he would be eligible for 2013 and 2015. There is no way he plays for our U20s unless he gets a senior cap IMO... switching back to us would be permanent for him at the youth level as it would be a 2nd switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 You know what, I'm not even sure he'd make our U20 squad, let alone be worthy of a senior cap. Consider his competition: M- Bryce Alderson | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC M- Samuel Piette | GER / Fortuna Düsseldorf M- Dylan Carreiro | ENG / Queens Park Rangers M- Michael Petrasso | ENG / Queens Park Rangers M- Sergio Camargo | CAN / Toronto FC Academy M- Oscar Cordon | CAN / Toronto FC M- Mauro Eustáquio | POR / Uniao de Leiria M- Jorgo Nika | GER / Eintracht Braunschweig M- Alessandro Riggi | ESP / Celta de Vigo CM- Jonathan Lao | GER / FC Rot-Weiß Erfurt M- Keven Aleman | ESP / Real Valladolid M- Shadrack Mmunga | FRA / FC Metz M/F- Ben Fisk | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC Residency Both Carreiro and Petrasso are younger than him as well. Yes, he got some first team minutes with Rangers, but a little context is needed: they've graduated 5 youth players in the last two months. Add that to the six they graduated last year (including another 17 year old) and there's obviously a youth movement going on at Rangers. Our current U20 team needs to play together and we need to stop trying out new guys. If we want to invite him, go ahead but he better not expect to make the team. And our program isn't in dire straits if he isn't involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 He really should be called up to the U20 squad. If he doesn't want to participate then fuk'em. Exactly. These guys like Hoilett, Aird, de Guzman, they're always on their VERY LAST CHANCE and if they don't participate this time then we should forget about them until the next opportunity when they will be on their VERY LAST CHANCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Can we start capping kids in the CSL too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/leaguedivision3/4560765/Canada-kids-a-hit-but-pals-said-hed-be-better-off-playing-ice-hockey.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Canada's future in this sport is probably better than Scotland's, so have fun with that Aird. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/leaguedivision3/4560765/Canada-kids-a-hit-but-pals-said-hed-be-better-off-playing-ice-hockey.html Hahah a great comment in that from a Cetlic fan... "Ice hockey playing Canadian footballer, could come in handy with some of the grounds you'll be playing on in the winter HH" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Is a team like Motherwell any better than the likes of San Jose or Seattle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Is a team like Motherwell any better than the likes of San Jose or Seattle? Now THAT'S an argument for a different thread! And Aird will never be good enough to play for Scotland OR Canada. Much ado about nothing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Now THAT'S an argument for a different thread! And Aird will never be good enough to play for Scotland OR Canada. Much ado about nothing lol Mourinho is that you? What an eye for talent you must have to have seen a 17 year old play zero times and make that assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Mourinho is that you? What an eye for talent you must have to have seen a 17 year old play zero times and make that assumption. (shrugs) I'd make a ten year bet with you, but by then we'll both have forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Mourinho is that you? What an eye for talent you must have to have seen a 17 year old play zero times and make that assumption. +1. Yeah, uh, I think sometimes we might forget that we aren't Spain/Holland/Germany/Italy/Brazil. How in the heck could we rule Aird out now as not being good enough for us?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I didn't say rule it out. But then we may as well, right? I'm going to step out of this heated argument if you guys let me. I don't really care enough about a kid I personally don't think of as talented enough to play for Canada, and a guy who, from what I've seen in this thread, doesn't consider himself Canadian anyways. If his skill level doesn't rule him out, that certaintly would. +1 Just cause he got a bit of game action, that doesn't mean he's even good enough for our U20 team, let alone the senior team. In other words, +1 to this. Why are we worried about Scotsmen? For ****'s sake let's stop obsessing about people who don't give a **** about us. And an emphatic +1 to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I didn't say rule it out. But then we may as well, right? I'm going to step out of this heated argument if you guys let me. I don't really care enough about a kid I personally don't think of as talented enough to play for Canada, and a guy who, from what I've seen in this thread, doesn't consider himself Canadian anyways. If his skill level doesn't rule him out, that certaintly would. The bottom line is you're speaking about a player you've never seen play and now you're backing out of the argument. He's 17 FFS and when did he ever say he didn't consider himself Canadian? His dad credited all the people in Canada for his success after his debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 +1. Yeah, uh, I think sometimes we might forget that we aren't Spain/Holland/Germany/Italy/Brazil. How in the heck could we rule Aird out now as not being good enough for us?! Yeah, but we also aren't St. Lucia. We can't always do backflips whenever someone with a little bit of talent intimates that they might consider playing for us. We have a pretty damn good squad with the kids that don't need to be convinced to play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Came off bench once, and started last two, i guess its his spot to lose.He played 77 mins today. He set up the goal. He was taking Corners on the right side of play. He plays down the left, runs at defenders, and was capable of crossing with both feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 The bottom line is you're speaking about a player you've never seen play and now you're backing out of the argument. He's 17 FFS and when did he ever say he didn't consider himself Canadian? His dad credited all the people in Canada for his success after his debut. Not my fault...he hasn't played at a high enough level for me to really notice or try, although I do diligently try to follow Canadian players and see as many players as I can, I haven't had the honor of seeing Aird. I will agree, to be fair, to keep an open mind, given what you say about his dad, but I will say that I seriously seriously doubt he will ever suit up for Canada on any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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