forster01 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Thing is these guys tend to still view themselves as Canadians and are proud of that fact. They view what team they play for on the World stage as a business or goal oriented decision, so not surprising that they would wear Canadian gear introduce themselves as Canadian etc. (referring to JDG2, Hoilett, OH) I disagree, JDG2 gave up his canadian citizenship, OH jumped ship at the first opportunity, they just say they are still canadian as to calm us the supporters, i have a different feeling about Hoilett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I am totally grasping at straws right now, so this is why i am showing this video (Notice the flag on his shirt) It was added march 14th so just maybe?? lol Also says CANADA across the back with another flag. I wore that shirt yesterday....heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Also says CANADA across the back with another flag. I wore that shirt yesterday....heh. If he caps for us without Canada making some landmark achievement first, I'll be happy to have him. It's this fall-back status that's killing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I disagree, JDG2 gave up his canadian citizenship, OH jumped ship at the first opportunity, they just say they are still canadian as to calm us the supporters, i have a different feeling about Hoilett Saying they are still Canadian does not calm supporters, in fact its actually the opposite. I'm not saying Hoilett is the same as them, but if he was committed to representing Canada he would have done so or he would have come out saying he will do so 100% or made a statement saying he will be there for the Gold Cup. Obviously I would like to have him in the fold, but lets be serious the only reason he has'nt committed is because he is not sure that he wants to play for Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 The only way we will see Hoilett, is if we can make the final 6 in WCQ. No way he is going to sacrifice his "options" otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Also says CANADA across the back with another flag. I wore that shirt yesterday....heh. Where can I get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Where can I get one? I'll admit I just ordered one myself http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3543398&cp=1760781.1760809&view=99&parentPage=family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I'll admit I just ordered one myself http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3543398&cp=1760781.1760809&view=99&parentPage=family That's a different one actually. That one has your name and a number on the back like a jersey, the one I have (and the one in the video) simply says CANADA in an arc on the back with another (larger) Canadian flag patch underneath. Also doesn't say CANADA under the flag on the front, but says it on the sleeve underneath the number 5. I got mine while away in Indonesia last June for pretty cheap, like 60-70 CDN or so. When I got back I think I saw them at the Bay for about 140. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I am totally grasping at straws right now, so this is why i am showing this video (Notice the flag on his shirt) It was added march 14th so just maybe?? lol Part of me wanted him to trip over one of those cement balls. The other part of me wanted him to say he's excited to go to Turkey at the end of the month and make his debut for Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloth8 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Interview with Junior posted on Soccernet today regarding his increased playing time under manager Steve Kean. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/895301/junior-hoilett-sees-pride-and-power-in-blackburn-rovers%27-ranks?cc=5901 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Interview with Junior posted on Soccernet today regarding his increased playing time under manager Steve Kean. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/895301/junior-hoilett-sees-pride-and-power-in-blackburn-rovers%27-ranks?cc=5901 http://goo.gl/fb/nkNVo I've seen something on the BBC. Hoilett is a free agent after this season. Kean doesn't want to negotiate with him because he wants Hoilett to play to the best of his capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 http://goo.gl/fb/nkNVo I've seen something on the BBC. Hoilett is a free agent after this season. Kean doesn't want to negotiate with him because he wants Hoilett to play to the best of his capacity. Are you sure? Positive he signed a long-term deal last year. Sam Allardyce even flew over personally to talk to his dad in their Brampton home. Just read that link, he's out of contract after next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 According to the Transfermarkt website (assuming it's reliable), he's signed until the end of June 2012. Edit: After reading the BBC article (and JPG's post properly), they do indeed mention that David is a free agent after NEXT season, so the talks would seemingly just be to extend the current contract, longer term. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/david-hoilett/profil/spieler_58993.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 According to the Transfermarkt website (assuming it's reliable), he's signed until the end of June 2012. Maybe the BBC article is incorrect. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/david-hoilett/profil/spieler_58993.html The BBC article is correct, Junior is out of contract after next season. Blackdude misread it and thought it was after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I can see the future now, "you know my contract is up for renewal this comming season, so right now I am focused on playing my best for Blackburn so I can secure a new contract." - David Hoilett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Sorry, But can a player negotiate a contract with another team 6 months before his deal ends? (I know I've seen Olic and Podolski announce that they will transfer on a free 6 months before D-Day) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Sorry, But can a player negotiate a contract with another team 6 months before his deal ends? (I know I've seen Olic and Podolski announce that they will transfer on a free 6 months before D-Day) Yes a player can negotiate a deal 6 months before but if he is under the age of 23 (I think its 23) then if his team offers equal or better terms and he leaves they are due compensation. This is what happened to David Edgar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sserhan3 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Any news on this guy He would be HUGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Yes a player can negotiate a deal 6 months before but if he is under the age of 23 (I think its 23) then if his team offers equal or better terms and he leaves they are due compensation. This is what happened to David Edgar. Compensation is due regardless of whether the deal is signed 6 months prior to the deal expiring. The 6 month rule before a contract expires is only allowed if the contract is signed with a club outside of the country he plays in. An English club would have to wait until he's out of contract, but if a club in a country outside of England came around they could sign him to a contract 6 months (January 2012) before his current deal expires and then he would play out his current contract with Blackburn before joining his new foreign team in the summer of 2012. Being under 23 that foreign club would also have to pay a fee to Blackburn for Junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footscray Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Many apologies if I am bringing up repeat information but there are a couple news items on this front. First, an American journalist actually approached Hoilett Sr. to check out the USA rumors and it was confirmed that this is false; http://twitter.com/briansciaretta/status/50620437851406336 Second, an article from a couple days ago states that Hart met with Hoilett in person in England over the last week. "ESPN, which broadcast Saturday's match in Britain reported that on Friday, Hoilett met Stephen Hart, the Canadian coach, to discuss playing for the team." Full article; http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_berlin/04/02/epl.notes/index.html#ixzz1IWaZKqbz So one less suitor and Hart is doing his all. Can't ask for much more than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forster01 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 He will play for us, he probably feels that he is wanted and that will make him join us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Many apologies if I am bringing up repeat information but there are a couple news items on this front. First, an American journalist actually approached Hoilett Sr. to check out the USA rumors and it was confirmed that this is false; http://twitter.com/briansciaretta/status/50620437851406336 Second, an article from a couple days ago states that Hart met with Hoilett in person in England over the last week. "ESPN, which broadcast Saturday's match in Britain reported that on Friday, Hoilett met Stephen Hart, the Canadian coach, to discuss playing for the team." Full article; http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_berlin/04/02/epl.notes/index.html#ixzz1IWaZKqbz So one less suitor and Hart is doing his all. Can't ask for much more than that! That is amazing. In the past players have chosen to play for other countries because they felt neglected by the CSA or because they didn't feel Canadian, with Hoillet I don't think either applies. If he decides to play for another country I'll be disappointed but I'll find comfort in the fact that we did everything we could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Agreed. Again, as I suggested before, if Junior's brother has positive CSA experiences, there is no reason to believe Junior will select Jamaica over us and there just is no room in the English team for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 He will play for us, he probably feels that he is wanted and that will make him join usYou must be new around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forster01 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 You must be new around here My bad meant to put a smiley face, my attempt at sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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