TFCRegina Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 BTW http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/content.php?903-Pick-up-the-phone-gents this article mentions Ben found the hotel they're staying at. 20 bucks says it was the Renaissance at the Rogers. I ran into Zach Herold there after his sending away by the TFC supporters...as well as the New England Revolution when I was checking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 New state of the art training facility Surprised that the MLSE boardroom level approval for $17.5 million funding on that isn't being talked up more by the media along with Winter's comments about not needing the draft because of young Canadian players in the Academy but maybe all the recent hysterics about changes to MLS roster regulations are only really of interest to a select group of people online rather than the general fan base and most people grasp that TFC have a deep and ongoing commitment to developing young Canadian players through TFC Academy so it isn't really newsworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Ornoch to be the first new signing? http://translate.google.ca/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voetbalprimeur.nl%2Fsite%2Fnieuws%2F153811%2FOrnoch_aan_de_slag_bij_nieuwe_club_Winter.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Ornoch to be the first new signing? http://translate.google.ca/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voetbalprimeur.nl%2Fsite%2Fnieuws%2F153811%2FOrnoch_aan_de_slag_bij_nieuwe_club_Winter.html That's pretty awesome if it comes through, I think Winter is gonna have a bead on a lot of Erevidse players, I'd love to see TFC take a run at De Jong as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 ^ If I wanted to get picky, I'd point out the de Jong currently plays in the 2. Bundesliga, not the Eredivisie. But I get your point. He'd certainly be a bigger catch than Ornoch, who never really made the most of his opportunity in the Eerste Divisie (Dutch 2nd tier), a much lower level than what de Jong is playing at. Ornoch has really failed to gain a foothold at any of his pro stops, so I hope he fits in with TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 ^ If I wanted to get picky, I'd point out the de Jong currently plays in the 2. Bundesliga, not the Eredivisie. But I get your point. He'd certainly be a bigger catch than Ornoch, who never really made the most of his opportunity in the Eerste Divisie (Dutch 2nd tier), a much lower level than what de Jong is playing at. Ornoch has really failed to gain a foothold at any of his pro stops, so I hope he fits in with TFC. I was reading the RPB forum and saw a couple of people suggesting Ornoch should make around 200-300 K in MLS. Is it me or they are really overevaluating him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I was reading the RPB forum and saw a couple of people suggesting Ornoch should make around 200-300 K in MLS. Is it me or they are really overevaluating him? Those were secret posts from Mo Johnston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 ^ If I wanted to get picky, I'd point out the de Jong currently plays in the 2. Bundesliga, not the Eredivisie. But I get your point. He'd certainly be a bigger catch than Ornoch, who never really made the most of his opportunity in the Eerste Divisie (Dutch 2nd tier), a much lower level than what de Jong is playing at. Ornoch has really failed to gain a foothold at any of his pro stops, so I hope he fits in with TFC. Yeah, since May 2010... So, really is it that out of Winter's reach to have known him from his recent Roda and Helmond days, his youth days at PSV and Dutch origins. I also believe Ornoch could have Cann like success, you just go back to when they both were at Esjberg together, Ornoch was considered the higher quality football player by both the MNT and Esjberg staff and supporters. He just hasn't been used in enough in a strict role and position, he's been roaming the midfield for too long, if TFC get him they need to do what they did with Cann and fin him a regular consistent role, whether it be off the bench or in the XI I'd love to seem in a fixed sorta situation in terms of role and position. I've been thinking is it possible that TFC could find themselves some loan opportunities with Jong Ajax? I'm a big Ajax supporter and always have been since I grew into the game of soccer, and I really see some players on Ajax that have great potential, but sorta in flux in mostly due to limited first squad time, could guys like Bonevcia, Donald, Josefzoon, Suk, Ozbiltz, Zeegelar or Bodul could be maybe looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Maybe Ornoch will turn out to be an offensive version of Chris Pozniak. It seems like he can play forward, offensive mid and maybe winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 ^ If I wanted to get picky, I'd point out the de Jong currently plays in the 2. Bundesliga, not the Eredivisie. But I get your point. He'd certainly be a bigger catch than Ornoch, who never really made the most of his opportunity in the Eerste Divisie (Dutch 2nd tier), a much lower level than what de Jong is playing at. Ornoch has really failed to gain a foothold at any of his pro stops, so I hope he fits in with TFC. Never made the most of his opportunity? 3 goals in 9 appearances mostly as a sub, to me thats making the most of an opportunity De Jong would be a perfect fit for TFC right now, he can fill the void at left back, count as a domestic and with Winters in the picture he would fit in well. But idk if it would be best for the MNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Never made the most of his opportunity? 3 goals in 9 appearances mostly as a sub, to me thats making the most of an opportunity But then after scoring 3 goals in 9 appearances, he left the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I was reading the RPB forum and saw a couple of people suggesting Ornoch should make around 200-300 K in MLS. Is it me or they are really overevaluating him? Yes they are. Ornoch is probably making a fraction of that amount in Veendam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc88 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Yes they are. Ornoch is probably making a fraction of that amount in Veendam. Yeah one would think that considering he got essentially the same playing time as Cann at Esberg and is now in Holland's second division ... Cann's at what? 65k? How can Ornoch be coming in at anything more that 100k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I've mentioned this on the TFC boards. I also told BigBird what I believe to be the rationale for not contacting them (that they wanted to go for dutch or german coaches for their stereotypical coaching style). Language issues might be another area of concern. Dutch people tend to speak English reasonably fluently. Italians not so often in my experience. Probably because Dutch and English are very close to each other in the tree of Indo-European languages. Beyond that they obviously wanted a big name. Serie A experience maybe wasn't enough if the name involved wasn't something like Dino Zoff, Franco Baresi or Roberto Donadoni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Maybe Ornoch will turn out to be an offensive version of Chris Pozniak. It seems like he can play forward, offensive mid and maybe winger. I've never seen him play but if he does get brought in by the team I hope he does well. He might have the goods to do well in MLS, he might not, who knows. I looking forward to seeing who else gets signed in the coming weeks but also the real possibility of which other incumbents might get sent packing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. killinger Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I've never seen him play but if he does get brought in by the team I hope he does well. He might have the goods to do well in MLS, he might not, who knows. I looking forward to seeing who else gets signed in the coming weeks but also the real possibility of which other incumbents might get sent packing. I doubt they can afford to cut anyone else from the current team. They only have 17 official players at the moment. And remember that the league has upped the roster size to 30 and is bringing back the reserve league. Besides, no one from the current roster really deserves to be cut anyway. All I know is that it's going to be an interesting transfer window for TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I doubt they can afford to cut anyone else from the current team. They only have 17 official players at the moment. And remember that the league has upped the roster size to 30 and is bringing back the reserve league. Besides, no one from the current roster really deserves to be cut anyway. Several new players will be brought in, for sure. But during preseason training it's quite possible that the new coaching staff might quickly find that some holdovers don't fit into their plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saviola7 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Language issues might be another area of concern. Dutch people tend to speak English reasonably fluently. Italians not so often in my experience. Probably because Dutch and English are very close to each other in the tree of Indo-European languages. That, but a more contributing factor (IMO) is that since they have a smaller population, they tend to import a lot of media (tv shows, movies, etc.) which they quite often subtitle rather than dub which is huge. In fact, for a while there, they didn't even dub children's cartoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Those were secret posts from Mo Johnston! After weighing the evidence, this is my conclusion as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I looking forward to seeing who else gets signed in the coming weeks but also the real possibility of which other incumbents might get sent packing. Well, Barrett and Conway have been traded, regardless of the squad numbers. Let's see how the remaining incumbents fare after the overseas training camp and friendlies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GoGreen Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Yeah one would think that considering he got essentially the same playing time as Cann at Esberg and is now in Holland's second division ... Cann's at what? 65k? How can Ornoch be coming in at anything more that 100k? Ornoch is an offensive player could end up helping with the scoring load, and is a few years younger than Cann, I would guess those are the reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ornoch is an offensive player could end up helping with the scoring load, and is a few years younger than Cann, I would guess those are the reasons. And Will Johnson was even younger and had greater production in the Eredivisie (ie. he actually played) and look what he signed for ($70K). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 So, is Ornoch signed or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 According to Sean Keay in a post on the U-Sector forum TFC will not be signing Ornoch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 According to Sean Keay in a post on the U-Sector forum TFC will not be signing Ornoch. Hopefully the Caps scoop him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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