Macksam Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 http://www.theprovince.com/sports/amateur/university/Three+Ontario+cities+interested+soccer+stadium/4005169/story.html Brampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverthursday Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Soccer porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 How about another MLS team in the GTA? West Side Football Club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Odds on Hamilton will get this sorted out one way or another, but I suspect if they don't the prime suspects would be Kitchener, London and Oshawa and that the potential for a CFL expansion team would be the motivating factor for many municipal politicians rather than the NASL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Jeez, what a stupid looking stadium. "Hey guys, we need an idea for a stadium to stand the next 40 years without looking stupid, what is something original and will still look modern and professional 60 years into the future?" "Oh, a bland, asymmetric stadium with a running track! and two empty ends!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Always think it's tough to beat Hajduk Split's stadium for combining soccer with an athletics track: Maybe the thinking on the Pan Am games is to only fund a portion of that scenario but leave scope for doing the rest later where the Ticats and the CFL are concerned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 That is an old rendering when the track was in consideration. However, they moved the track event to York U and released an updated rendering of the stadium which I did post before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 Odds on Hamilton will get this sorted out one way or another, but I suspect if they don't the prime suspects would be Kitchener, London and Oshawa and that the potential for a CFL expansion team would be the motivating factor for many municipal politicians rather than the NASL. Hopefully it goes to a soccer hot bed like Brampton or Mississauga....London would be alright to I suppose. The PDL team are looking for a new stadium apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-collins Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I would think the Pan Am angle (travel distance) would rule out London, but I could see looking as far afield as K-W or 'shwa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 You may be right on that but there are already events planned for Barrie and Minden, which are a considerable driving distance from TO as well. I suspect TD Waterhouse at UWO could host soccer without drastic amounts of additional work being done. Highly comparable to UofT's new Varsity stadium and McMaster's Ron Joyce stadium, which are two of the other planned soccer venues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-collins Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Barrie is within the same radius as St Catharines from downtown Toronto, though (and even has GO train service!), so I wouldn't use it as a yardstick for measuring whether London is an appropriate venue for the *Toronto* Pan Am games. Minden is a head-scratcher distance-wise, though it must be because of the white water there (the only world class venue in Ontario). As a venue for soccer can be placed anywhere (within reason), they would be more interested in keeping it within the designated venue area. Not that I wouldn't support it in London, mind. I'm just pointing out the lay of the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 Althought this is pretty evil thinking, if the Hamilton thing falls through and the ti cats fold, that would put a huge dent in the CFL and the league in limbo with 7 teams. I don't hate the CFL, but that wouldn't be a bad thing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Althought this is pretty evil thinking, if the Hamilton thing falls through and the ti cats fold, that would put a huge dent in the CFL and the league in limbo with 7 teams. I don't hate the CFL, but that wouldn't be a bad thing for us. Hamilton isn't gonna fold, nor will it move. They'll take the stadium that's built for them. It's a non-credible threat on the owners' part. The CFL won't lose one of their oldest and most storied franchises over a bloody stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Hamilton isn't gonna fold, nor will it move. They'll take the stadium that's built for them. It's a non-credible threat on the owners' part. The CFL won't lose one of their oldest and most storied franchises over a bloody stadium. Gotta agree with TFCRegina, The Tiger-Cats will go along with it, but they have their preferences on the matter and they're going to fight for them. It's all just chest-thumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Sounds like Confederation Park will be the location now the rail yard place appears to be out of the question: http://sports.nationalpost.com/2010/12/20/hamilton-stadium-plans-hit-new-snag/ Confederation Park, located on the shore of Lake Ontario, has emerged as a potential site for the stadium. Bratina supported the Confederation Park location earlier in the process, but council opted not to pursue the option because they wanted to preserve lakefront green space. Bratina still believes Confederation Park can work. “The site is owned by the city, so there is no cost involved,” he said. “From the Tiger-Cat perspective, it is next to a major highway, the Queen Elizabeth Way. It is also adjacent to the Canadian National Railway line and we are hoping extended Go service will be added in the area within the next couple of years.” http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Confederation+Park,+Hamilton,+Ontario,+Canada&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=54.489258,90.263672&ie=UTF8&hq=Confederation+Park&hnear=Confederation+Park,+Hamilton,+Hamilton+Division,+Ontario,+Canada&ll=43.260456,-79.78941&spn=0.099009,0.176296&t=h&z=13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Sounds like Confederation Park will be the location now the rail yard place appears to be out of the question: http://sports.nationalpost.com/2010/12/20/hamilton-stadium-plans-hit-new-snag/ Confederation Park, located on the shore of Lake Ontario, has emerged as a potential site for the stadium. Bratina supported the Confederation Park location earlier in the process, but council opted not to pursue the option because they wanted to preserve lakefront green space. Bratina still believes Confederation Park can work. “The site is owned by the city, so there is no cost involved,” he said. “From the Tiger-Cat perspective, it is next to a major highway, the Queen Elizabeth Way. It is also adjacent to the Canadian National Railway line and we are hoping extended Go service will be added in the area within the next couple of years.” http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Confederation+Park,+Hamilton,+Ontario,+Canada&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=54.489258,90.263672&ie=UTF8&hq=Confederation+Park&hnear=Confederation+Park,+Hamilton,+Hamilton+Division,+Ontario,+Canada&ll=43.260456,-79.78941&spn=0.099009,0.176296&t=h&z=13 If that, nothing is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Don't think many local politicians in Hamilton will want to be remembered as one of the people that failed to deliver a new stadium for the Ticats so I wouldn't get your hopes up on it going elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-collins Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I would agree with that, and also that just having other options can keep the land costs low. (CP's price went way up as soon as the Ti-Cats started advertising the site of the future stadium before the purchase process had even been started) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Confederation Park would be a great site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 CP site has been dismissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-collins Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 CP? Rail, or Confed Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Despite what Duane Rollins is saying his blog at the moment, it is worth noting this snippet from the National Post article: Mitchell said the Ticats think Confederation Park could be a viable solution. Read more: http://sports.nationalpost.com/2010/12/20/hamilton-stadium-plans-hit-new-snag/#ixzz18uxO8shj The council meeting was to decide the fate of the rail yards proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 CP? Rail, or Confed Park? Sorry for the delay in reply. Confederation park was voted against by council. http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20101222/hamilton-pan-am-games-stadium-101222/20101222/?hub=TorontoNewHome All three options rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-collins Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/football/ticats-search-for-new-home-hits-dead-end/article1847844/ Looks like Confed Park is a dead option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Guess Duane Rollins was right after all then even if he didn't spell out all the details. The news about Carolina in the NASL having to effectively be taken over by the owners of the league (Traffic Sports or whatever they are called) maybe was a hint of what was to come given Bob Young was one of the investors who appeared to be bailing out in that context. There was talk on a recent SoccerSam podcast from Rochester about investors in Hamilton and/or Mississauga being interested in a USL Pro team so it will be interesting to see what unfolds after the CSA's current moratorium on sanctionings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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