Blackdude Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 $$$ But Canada should host it, there were rumours that we were going to host the last Gold Cup but it never happened. We should at least get a group Some rumours that were made by a troll on wikipedia. (Not that I knew, but it was clearly written by someone who didn't follow the guidelines of wrting an article. I'm sure we can host it. But, we don't give jack to Jack and that's probably why we don't host it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort York Redcoat1555362293 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I will be going to a Canada match if it's in Detroit, Chicago, NY, NJ, DC. I'll be getting at least a car together from Toronto. Let's keep this GC talk alive till Feb. when we learn who plays where.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razcle Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 ^ Thats what you said last time Pete, then you pussied out on the day of. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razcle Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Some rumours that were made by a troll on wikipedia. (Not that I knew, but it was clearly written by someone who didn't follow the guidelines of wrting an article. I'm sure we can host it. But, we don't give jack to Jack and that's probably why we don't host it. Thanks...But those rumors were not made by a troll and did follow Wikipedia's guidelines for writing an article. I know because I helped create the 2009 Gold cup page when I heard the news that Toronto and Canada could be a joint host. This was the article I referenced (however you now have to pay to see the archives) http://www.boston.com/sports/articles/2007/06/06/gold_cup_now_glittering_event/ This was the Wikipage that I started before the rumor was squashed http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2009_CONCACAF_Gold_Cup&oldid=137803041 So know your facts before you spurt off like that. Now if you are referring to someone else, maybe you are right. But as far as I can see all rules were followed and the page was changed as the story was found to be false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Hey guys, since you're both wikipedia masters can you help me update Paul Peschisolido's page? It has a couple of obvious errors in it and i tried changing it twice now and someone keeps changing it back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Peschisolido Paul was assistant coach at St. Patrick's in 2008-09 and never played there as a player (they list him as a player there in 2009 - AFAIK he didn't). Plus they have him listed as a Juventus of Turin player in 1991-92 which AFAIK is wrong, he trialed there and was never signed by the club. To make my post relevant to this thread; Paul never scored a goal for Canada at a Gold Cup tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort York Redcoat1555362293 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 ^ Thats what you said last time Pete, then you pussied out on the day of. LOL Oi! Your lucky I didn't go anyway and give you all the plague I had that day! Damn. Either way I'll rent a car again at least and this time pop a bunch of coldfx er summing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovan1 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I find it ridiculous that the Gold Cup, as a continental competition, is held in the US every time and that they're using 13 sites this time.. that's right 13! That's as many as as a World Cup and more than European Championships (both much larger competitions in terms of number of teams, exposure, etc). I understand that they have an exclusive deal with SUM and are trying to maximize revenue but it seems as though the US has a monopoly over the tournament. Also, it seems that everything possible is done to accomodate a Mexico-USA final to get the most exposure and revenue possible. The tournament should be held around CONCACAF perhaps by host groups of nations and the US, rotating every 2 years. The US can continue to host every 4 years. In my opinion Mexico, Canada, Central American nations, and the Caribbean nations should have an opportunity to host. Having it run more like other continental championships might make some take it more seriously and allow some countries to develop the infrastructure to help improve the overall quality of the game in CONCACAF. I assume that an improved CONCACAF would also mean increased influence in FIFA too... For example: 2011 USA 2013 Canada 2015 USA 2017 Mexico 2019 USA 2021 Caribbean 2023 USA 2025 Central America Anyways, just some thoughts and ramblings on the tournament. That being said, I hope Canada meets some non-USA/Mexico team in the finals. I wonder how full the Rose Bowl would be, probably as packed as the LA Coliseum was in 2000 when we won! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emlyn Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I don't understand why other concacaf nations haven't made the fact that the u.s. always hosts a bigger deal. It would be a huge advantage to host the tournament! but the other countries just sort of accept it. I see no reason why they should host every year, especially when other nations already have the required infrastructure.(ie. Mexico, Canada). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I don't understand why other concacaf nations haven't made the fact that the u.s. always hosts a bigger deal. It would be a huge advantage to host the tournament! but the other countries just sort of accept it. I see no reason why they should host every year, especially when other nations already have the required infrastructure.(ie. Mexico, Canada). You don't know Jack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 If SUM holds the reigns on this competition then I wouldn't bet on seeing it come north of the border anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 You don't know Jack! I think by the time WCQ roles around we need a CONCACAF Jack song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Agreed. Are there any famous Trini songs we could modify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Well if SUM wants to make money first, then it's a pretty stupid company. There's a lot of cash to be made if you put a group in Toronto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razcle Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 ^ Agreed, however SUM is an american company that works with the US Soccer Association. They would have to deal with the CSA to make Toronto happen and it may be too much red tape and less profit than if they kept it in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 ^ Agreed, however SUM is an american company that works with the US Soccer Association. They would have to deal with the CSA to make Toronto happen and it may be too much red tape and less profit than if they kept it in the US. Really tho? Would Canada sell out it's games in the US? Surely they'd do so with a bit of marketing effort here. I've only ever seen Canada play once, in a WCQ, and BMO Field was quite buzzing. Canada is as multicultural as it gets, why not group Canada with our strongest (as in by total numbers) immigrant nations that are in CONCACAF and have that group hosted here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Ya know I think it'd be awesome to play Honduras at BMO, let EVERYONE know that we're playing them there, get it just as organized, if not moreso, than 08, and show em a hostile Canadian crowd for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Really tho? Would Canada sell out it's games in the US? Surely they'd do so with a bit of marketing effort here. The size of the crowd at Canada games played in the USA totally depends on the other team's support. Even a game against tiny El Salvador would probably sell-out the HDC in Los Angeles, but when they played El Salvador in Columbus last time nobody showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I think by the time WCQ roles around we need a CONCACAF Jack song Agreed. Are there any famous Trini songs we could modify? or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Here's a good one to sing for Jack in the stands: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcisoul Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Hey I thought I would start a trend for Gold Cup. I want to go to Gold Cup this summer and I thouht thi would help me plan my trip Went toToronto this past summer for the Canada Friendly games and all the V's madethe trip so much better Im plaing on going wth mybuddy Jeff tuscan again and get some more memeories If yu have any info please post it here or just stories abot going to the Gold Cup Hell ya I want to go, I hope I can afford it this summer... Just got married and bought a house this past summer and was not able to go to the games last year with my bro Jordan (JojoFlow) and bud Jeff (Tuscan) ... houses cost a lot. anyway I really hope some games are close to the boarder. I need to get my passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razcle Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Really tho? Would Canada sell out it's games in the US? Surely they'd do so with a bit of marketing effort here. I've only ever seen Canada play once, in a WCQ, and BMO Field was quite buzzing. Canada is as multicultural as it gets, why not group Canada with our strongest (as in by total numbers) immigrant nations that are in CONCACAF and have that group hosted here? Your lucky. You have been to the one game in Toronto with a full house and an arguabely pro-Canadian crowd (even though there were a lot of Jamaicans in the stands) Every other CMNT game in Toronto&Montreal has not been a sell-out and we were outnumbered by away fans. Since the GC is not near as prestegious as the World Cup, we would likely see similar crowds to what we have seen unless all Canucks come from their houses and show up to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomurphy1 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 ^I disagree, if a Gold Cup group was held in Toronto and there was media attention and advertising, I have no doubt Canada would sell out their games. There are enough people in the GTA that for a reasonable price would be willing to go to games if they had a clue they were going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Your lucky. You have been to the one game in Toronto with a full house and an arguabely pro-Canadian crowd (even though there were a lot of Jamaicans in the stands) Every other CMNT game in Toronto&Montreal has not been a sell-out and we were outnumbered by away fans. Since the GC is not near as prestegious as the World Cup, we would likely see similar crowds to what we have seen unless all Canucks come from their houses and show up to the game. You underestimate what a little marketing can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I swear to god that if we're in LA again, Miami again, and New Jersey, I'm burning Jack Warner's house down. Careful. He'll play the race card if hears about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Razcle, What other matches do you compare it to though? This was a WCQ, a game of significant meaning to the CMNT, a friendly is not going to work on Canadian fans because they instantly translate that into "exhibition" as seen in the NFL, NHL, etc, which are boring events with 2nd rate lineups. It's not quite the same with football, but most people here don't understand that a friendly still has meaning and is worth going to..... that it's a rare treat to get to see the national team play, considering we have to share matches with Vancouver and Montreal. With the expected amount of matches in the upcoming WCQ campaign, there should be an opportunity to spoil the unfamiliar fans with meaningful matches where Canada can dominate (at least in the first round, if not some in the 2nd as well) and then some hard competitive matches in round 3. This stretch of games should generate some interest across the country and whether we qualify or not, I think it'll leave fans looking forward to the next time. The entire 2010 qualifying run consisted of one match in Toronto for fans here to see. That just isn't enough in a 4 year stretch to generate sustained interest and as already explained, friendlies aren't going to do much at all until some interest is sustained. With an expected 3 matches in each Canadian city for this upcoming campaign (all assuming we make round 3), this should help. A quality result in the GC will certainly drive interest into the first round of WCQ, so I'm hoping for a dream here, cause if the ball gets rolling the CMNT match could be an event not to be missed over the next couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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