Richard Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 ^ So replace PDL (which is still U-23 even though the number of allowed overage players has been steadily increased) with MLS Reserve League and we're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munseahawk Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 The acquisitions continue. Globe and Mail is confirming that Alain Rochat has been signed, after a stint with FC Zurich. Press conference called for Friday to formally announce it. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/soccer/whitecaps-sign-canadian-born-defender-alain-rochat/article1878048/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 MLS Senior roster - 20 spots DEV roster - 10 spots ------------------------------------- PDL - 0 spots (no contract with club, discovery claim needed to sign unless was part of academy - non-HG players do not belong to club and cannot play in MLS) Residency - 0 spots (amateur contracts, club can sign as homegrown player - players cannot play in MLS) For the Whitecaps however, the PDL and residency are one and the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 For the Whitecaps however, the PDL and residency are one and the same. Weren't you guys fielding a bunch of guys in their early 20's to supplement the youth players? Anyways i'm sure you're going to notice some changes regardless, instead of a U19 Residency you're going to be fielding a U18 and U16 squad for the Academy (unless MLS gives you leeway since you're new). And you're only allowed 3 out of territory players (outside of Western Canada) etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 ^ I went to most of the Whitecaps home PDL games last year and there was never a player over the age of 20 on the pitch. The entire roster was comprised of players from the residency program and inbetweeners (like Doudou Toure and Alex Semenets). In the past, the Whitecaps occasionally used the PDL games to get some first team players minutes when coming back from injury, but I can't recall this happening in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Strange that Chiumiento wasn't introduced with Rochat. I guess they'll be making more of a show of the "International" players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Strange that Chiumiento wasn't introduced with Rochat. I guess they'll be making more of a show of the "International" players. yeah, still 0 INT slots filled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovan1 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Does Atiba Harris not count as an international? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Does Atiba Harris not count as an international? He is domestic, counts as a domesticated American. http://twitter.com/ProvinceWeber/statuses/7594922362277888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamo Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 ^ I went to most of the Whitecaps home PDL games last year and there was never a player over the age of 20 on the pitch. The entire roster was comprised of players from the residency program and inbetweeners (like Doudou Toure and Alex Semenets). In the past, the Whitecaps occasionally used the PDL games to get some first team players minutes when coming back from injury, but I can't recall this happening in 2010....and the Caps won't budge on this. We will have 50-60 players under contract. The only question is how do those tweeners fit in. The homegrown rule has a clause in it specifically for Arnoux as by rule they could keep him on the roster for a year then make him homegrown (the rule the league added specifically rules out Arnoux, however, there are 30 other players currently signed to developmental contracts - not the DEV roster - who will eventually be "homegrown" players. These players do not have MLS contracts. What is being misunderstood here is the Caps have a PDL team with players- unless the are in NCAA- under contract. Im starting to think there is no rule in place and we won't know until a PDL player gets "called up" in the middle of the season. The Cap's schedule this year will include reserve games, PDL games, WUSL games and MLS games a true FC. I'm sure there will be lots of learning in the coming months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 ^Yes, at the moment Vancouver is a unique animal in MLS, it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamo Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 ^Yes, at the moment Vancouver is a unique animal in MLS, it will be interesting to see how it plays out.Yes indeed. I checked on the Chicago Fire as they are the only other MLS team with a PDL team and they have 4 players under contract, who I can only assume are on MLS deals and the rest are all free players. So, this is the BIG difference. The Caps already have more than 45 players under contract. It will be interesting indeed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livesareavailable Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I guarantee you, young Slamo, VWFC - the MLS entity, not the good old Blue & White with the wonderful local heritage - does not, nor can it ever, have 45 contracted MLS employees assigned to it, unless 15 of them are on SEI...uh, that's season ending injury status. Which is a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamo Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 ^I never said MLS contracts. But the reality is they have high quality players such as Gage, REB, Arnoux, Tiebert, Semenets, et al under contract. Those are not MLS contracts but those players are bound to the Caps - I chose those players because most likely none of them will be on the MLS roster, therefore clearly the Caps will have more than 30 contracts - this is something the MLS will have to address because the Caps aren't budging. It's a great situation to be in and I am sure it will end up being the future of the league. I could eventually see the draft being abolished and a much more European club system. Though with the big money NCAA involved I am sure there will be some fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Yeah, I doubt the MLS has a rule saying The Caps can't sign players to there own personal contract that has nothing to do with the MLS, meaning they won't see the MLS pitch, but our PDL team, Voyaguers Cup Matches, Training with the MLS team, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Ryan O'Leary on trial. Decent SPL defender: http://www.whitecapsfc.com/roster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_O%27Leary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Also O'Leary has ties to the Vancouver Whitecaps with his father Pierce playing with the club for a few years in the early 80's. His Uncle was also former Gunner stalwart David O'Leary, who amassed over 700 caps at Arsenal spanning 3 decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Ryan O'Leary on trial. Decent SPL defender: http://www.whitecapsfc.com/roster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_O%27Leary Meh. He played almost exclusively in the second tier in 2010 and hasn't played since May, so I would prefer to call him SPL-experienced, in the way that Jim Brennan was EPL-experienced but hardly an "EPL defender". http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd The upside is that he is only 23 and, with the family connection to the city and to the club, he may feel some affinity that could speed his adjustment should he sign. Or Caps could have just kept a Bellisomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Meh. He played almost exclusively in the second tier in 2010 and hasn't played since May, so I would prefer to call him SPL-experienced, in the way that Jim Brennan was EPL-experienced but hardly an "EPL defender". http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd The upside is that he is only 23 and, with the family connection to the city and to the club, he may feel some affinity that could speed his adjustment should he sign. Or Caps could have just kept a Bellisomo. Yeah, keeping Luca would of made the same amount of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Excellent article on the Whitecaps site, explains everything roster wise except confirmation of the domestic quota. Bottom line, it is impossible to know what a teams "real" salary cap is. http://www.whitecapsfc.com/news/2011/01/mls-101-making-mls-team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well done Carl Valentine for explaining it so clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well done Carl Valentine for explaining it so clearly. Ditto and anyone know if going down to Empire during training will yield any positive results of getting to see some of the new faces on the pitch? Love to see what some of these hopefuls bring over the 3 days, I know most the efforts will be when they go out on the road, but still would be nice to see the collection of Whitecaps together on the start of a wonderful campaign towards the inaugural season. 30 spots on the MLS squad, 14 names already penned in, 19 players battling for 15 spots, possibly up to 3 less if DP's are brought in. Could be interesting, especially since all 10 International spots are still open 2 brought in by trade (lasting only this season).\ One thing is for sure there is still decisions upon decisions left for Whitecap fans to twiddle the thumbs about waiting for them to trickle down the grapevine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 TFC release another piece of the roster puzzle (re: reserve teams). According to Neely, TFC fans can expect the Reds to take full advantage of the MLS rule that will allow up to three academy players to take part in each reserve game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ethan Gage is not on the Whitecaps training camp roster. He was invited to camp but chose to pursue other options. He is currently in England on trial at Reading and it sounds like he has been offered a deal to stay there until the end of the season. Whitecaps say that he is welcome back if things do not work out in England. Edwini-Bonsu has been demoted from the first-team to the residency squad and will not be participating in training camp either. Do not expect him to be part of the 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 ^if Gage signs with Reading, will the 'Caps be entitled to a fee, other than a FIFA-mandated compensation payment for training costs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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