Now the focus shifts over to the reentry draft

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Here's a blog entry in which I try to explain the mechanics of the new reentry draft process and explore which players from TFC are likely to be involved:

http://canadiansocceropinion.blogspot.com/2010/11/now-focus-shifts-over-to-reentry-draft.html

[Tuscan]

So could the Timbers and Caps potentially get into a bidding war over a player in this draft? If I understand this properly, they could both offer contracts to a player who isn't satisfied with their current contract, and then keep one-upping each other until the player accepts. This is going to be a very unusual draft. And the league gets weirder...

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Don't think it works like that.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/2010-re-entry-process

In the first stage on Dec 8th it's basically like the Superdraft in that clubs take turns to select players, who they then sign under the terms of their contract option or at on or slightly more than their 2010 salary level. In the second stage on Dec 15th teams are getting the chance to get the MLS rights to a player in exchange for making a contract offer on reduced terms relative to 2010, which the player may decide to decline. In both stages there is no fixed number of rounds involved unlike the superdraft and the process keeps going until every team has decided to stop selecting any more players.An interesting quirk is that a team can eventually select one of its own players in stage 2 once every other MLS team has had the chance to select him and has declined to do so.

Clubs may NOT select their own draft- eligible players in Stage 2 until all other Clubs have declined on selecting such players (i.e., a Club shall not be permitted to select any player from its 2010 roster until all other Clubs have passed on selecting such player).

[Tuscan]

It definitely makes a lot of sense why Vancouver chose to have the first pick in this draft rather than the expansion draft. Much better prospects in this draft than in the expansion draft. Being a new club but with a strong history of success, some players might look at Vancouver as an excellent option for their career.

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Think it's the Superdraft Vancouver chose to have the first pick on. From what I can see they are 17th on the reentry draft with the Timbers 18th:

http://www.mlssoccer.com/2010-re-entry-process

Draft Order and Length: Stage 1 draft order will be conducted in the same order as the traditional Waiver Draft with Vancouver selecting 17th and Portland selecting 18th. The Stage 1 draft will continue until no Clubs wish to make any selections. Clubs may NOT select their own draft-eligible players in Stage 1.

[tmcmurph]

Think it's the Superdraft Vancouver chose to have the first pick on. From what I can see they are 17th on the reentry draft with the Timbers 18th:

http://www.mlssoccer.com/2010-re-entry-process

Draft Order and Length: Stage 1 draft order will be conducted in the same order as the traditional Waiver Draft with Vancouver selecting 17th and Portland selecting 18th. The Stage 1 draft will continue until no Clubs wish to make any selections. Clubs may NOT select their own draft-eligible players in Stage 1.

Yes it was the superdraft and I'd be totally shocked if they don't take Salgado first overall. At 17 and already getting calls from the US MNT? Yea that is one we want. Young, already good and lots of potential. I don't know who else is available in the upcoming draft but getting Salgado for a GenA salary cap hit is too good to pass up.

[TheKottonmouthed1555362307]

Yeah for sure Salgado seems the logical choice(for the Superdraft), since we attemped to get him before the draft but were blocked by the MLS.

I'm excited to see who will be left at the 8th pick, would be great to get 2 GA players to help with our Cap situation.

[Tuscan]

Wow... I'm just going to step away from the mic in this thread now...

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Interesting snippet from the Houston Chronicle:

http://blogs.chron.com/soccer/archives/2010/11/looking_ahead_o.html

On the eve of the deadline to pick up the 2011 options on contracts, it's become apparent that the Dynamo have informed Pat Onstad, Eddie Robinson, Richard Mulrooney, Ryan Cochrane, Joseph Ngwenya, Adrian Serioux, and Anthony Obodai that their 2011 options won't be picked up....

TFC get to pick before the Whitecaps do so assuming there is no interest elsewhere I wonder if the ex-CMNT and CSA types currently calling the shots at BMO Field at the moment will see the first phase of the re-entry draft as an opportunity to painlessly undo one of Preki's more controversial roster decisions. Serioux was on $96k last season, started 7 times with 6 substitute appearances:

http://www.mlssoccer.com/player/adrian-serioux

[TheKottonmouthed1555362307]

Interesting snippet from the Houston Chronicle:

http://blogs.chron.com/soccer/archives/2010/11/looking_ahead_o.html

On the eve of the deadline to pick up the 2011 options on contracts, it's become apparent that the Dynamo have informed Pat Onstad, Eddie Robinson, Richard Mulrooney, Ryan Cochrane, Joseph Ngwenya, Adrian Serioux, and Anthony Obodai that their 2011 options won't be picked up....

TFC get to pick before the Whitecaps do so assuming there is no interest elsewhere I wonder if the ex-CMNT and CSA types currently calling the shots at BMO Field at the moment will see the first phase of the re-entry draft as an opportunity to painlessly undo one of Preki's more controversial roster decisions. Serioux was on $96k last season, started 7 times with 6 substitute appearances:

http://www.mlssoccer.com/player/adrian-serioux

Yeah, I could see Serioux actually having a good second go with TFC, I think he was unfairly thrown under the bus at times. Not that he was great, but he wasn't as bad as people touted him as. He would provide JDG another guy like Sturgis and be a guy JDG can rely on, plus they have familiarity already. Health is the big issue, I would think.

[Grizzly]

Yeah, I could see Serioux actually having a good second go with TFC, I think he was unfairly thrown under the bus at times. Not that he was great, but he wasn't as bad as people touted him as. He would provide JDG another guy like Sturgis and be a guy JDG can rely on, plus they have familiarity already. Health is the big issue, I would think.

Actually he was great for TFC, often the best player on the team until he started to have injury problems but still had to play because they had no one else near his level. At a reasonable salary he could be a really good addition to any team if they weren't relying on him to start every game. He can play at a very high level in several positions. Having top notch subs and guys who can start with no drop in talent level when other players are unavailable is one of the main things that gets teams into playoffs in MLS. He is a better or equal player to pretty much all of the defenders TFC had last year, he just is not going to be a 30 game starter.

[BearcatSA]

^Totally agree with all you have said here.

[Standard]

Colorado Rapids will not pick up options on midfielders Claudio Lopez, Ciaran O’Brien and Peter Vagenas

D.C. United declines contract options on Pena, Rice, Varela and Barklage. All likely available in re-entry draft

The Revolution declined the 2011 contract options on Preston Burpo, Nico Colaluca, Cory Gibbs and Khano Smith.

Red Bull New York has declined the contract options for forward Juan Pablo Angel, midfielder Luke Sassano, and defender Carey Talley

[Standard]

RE-ENTRY DRAFT PLAYER LIST

Chivas USA: Marcelo Saragosa (option declined), Alex Zotinca (option declined)

Colorado Rapids: Claudio Lopez (option declined), Ciaran O'Brien (option declined), Peter Vagenas (option declined)

Columbus Crew: Frankie Hejduk (option declined), Duncan Oughton (option declined), Gino Padula (option declined), Guillermo Barros Schelotto (option declined)

FC Dallas: Jeff Cunningham (option declined), Dario Sala (option declined)

D.C. United: Jaime Moreno (option declined)

Houston Dynamo: Ryan Cochrane (option declined), Richard Mulrooney (option declined), Joseph Ngwenya (option declined), Pat Onstad (option declined), Adrian Serioux (option declined)

Los Angeles Galaxy: Jovan Kirovski (option declined), Dema Kovalenko (option declined)

New England Revolution: Preston Burpo (option declined), Nico Colaluca (option declined), Cory Gibbs (option declined), Khano Smith (option declined)

New York Red Bulls: Juan Pablo Angel (option declined), Luke Sassano (option declined), Carey Talley (option declined)

Philadelphia Union: Fred Carreiro (out of contract), Chris Seitz (option declined)

San Jose Earthquakes: Khari Stephenson (option declined)

Seattle Sounders: Tyrone Marshall (option declined)

Sporting Kansas City: Jimmy Conrad (out of contract), Aaron Hohlbein (out of contract), Josh Wolff (option declined)

Toronto FC: Nick Garcia (option declined)

League Pool Goalkeeper: Chris Sharpe (option declined)

[TheKottonmouthed1555362307]

Some intriguing possibilities are out there for TFC, and the Caps.

Cory Gibbs, Khano Smith, Adrian Serioux, Aaron Hohlbein, Josh Wolff, and Luke Sassano, are the ones that jump out to me as solid and cheap pickups, off the top of my head, I'm sure I missed a couple guys too

Chris Seitz is also really odd to see, wasn't he the player Philly protected after Salinas was taken, I can see Seitz being a solid pickup for any team who thinks they might sell there goalie at some point in the near future (TFC, Frei), as much a Conway is a great backup, Seitz could be a starter for years in the MLS, while Frei could be too it seems his future is gonna look like Edu's.

[Guest Ed]

I think TFC already has enough Vagenas. I don't know enough about Vancouver to judge.

(poor jk people).

[bgnewf]

Kinda Sorta Free Agency

http://tinyurl.com/288zvqm

There are some interesting veteran players available in the first round of the MLS Re- Entry Draft next week, if you are willing to pay big money to get them... And I ask if TFC should look to Juan Pablo Angel. Comments always welcome.

[BearcatSA]

I think TFC already has enough Vagenas. I don't know enough about Vancouver to judge.

(poor jk people).

lol

[Michael Crampton]

He is a better or equal player to pretty much all of the defenders TFC had last year,

Did you see him play in 2010?

By the stats BBtB provided he only managed to start 7 and play in a total of 13 league games FOR A TEAM THAT FINISHED BEHIND TFC. I like Adrian but people are basing their opinion of him on his warrior like performances in early 2009 not the more recent version.

[Grizzly]

Did you see him play in 2010?

By the stats BBtB provided he only managed to start 7 and play in a total of 13 league games FOR A TEAM THAT FINISHED BEHIND TFC. I like Adrian but people are basing their opinion of him on his warrior like performances in early 2009 not the more recent version.

Well here is a quote from a Houston blogger about his play that Nolando posted in another thread:

http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogsoccer/2010/11/dynamo_season_review_down_year.html

Adrian Serioux

Serioux was a pleasant surprise this year. He showed more agility and recovery speed than I expected when he was brought in and his usual physical nature gave way to a more tactical approach. He was the best of the defenders at providing an agile centerback able to run with attackers and provided help in the attack. His long throws are always a weapon and he was a weapon on set pieces. I have heard several people suggest that Serioux should be let go but count me in the camp that thinks he needs to be brought back to provide depth at both defender and midfield.

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

In this blog entry I go through what's involved with the first stage of the reentry draft and then explore which players might be of interest to TFC and the Whitecaps (although given TFC pick 6th and the Whitecaps 17th probably only TFC have a realistic shot at getting someone worthwhile at this point):

http://canadiansocceropinion.blogspot.com/2010/12/players-to-look-out-for-in-waiver-draft.html

[jpoma]

what order do the teams pick in the re-entry draft?

[TheKottonmouthed1555362307]

what order do the teams pick in the re-entry draft?

1. D.C. United

2. Chivas USA

3. Philadelphia Union

4. New England Revolution

5. Houston Dynamo

6. Toronto FC

7. Chicago Fire

8. Sporting Kansas City

9. Seattle Sounders FC

10. Columbus Crew

11. New York Red Bulls

12. Real Salt Lake

13. San Jose Earthquakes

14. LA Galaxy

15. FC Dallas

16. Colorado Rapids

17. Vancouver Whitecaps FC

18. Portland Timbers

http://www.prostamerika.com/2010/12/03/mls-unveil-entry-draft-rules-33221/

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Only two players selected in the first stage. Neither of them by TFC:

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/ngwenya-hohlbein-selected-re-entry-draft

D.C. United opted to pick up the contract for Ngwenya and the Columbus Crew picked up Hohlbein as the only two selections of the league’s inaugural event. All other teams in the draft passed and did not take a shot on one of the 35 players eligible for selection.

[Richard]

No real surprise. Many of the players in the re-entry draft were not re-signed by their clubs either because they didn't deliver or were too expensive or both. Might as well take a pass on Stage 1 and wait for Stage 2 when contracts can be renegotiated. I suspect at least half of these players may find themselves looking for work outside MLS.