tarnado1555362291 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Finland Tosaint Ricketts scored in the 15th minute for MyPa up against Frank Jonke's AC Oulu, 1-1 late in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklefan Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I don't think it ever should be legal for transfer agreements to specify when and against whom a player can play. If he was already cap tied in the competition that would be another thing entirely. I don'tknow if you already knew this but in case you didn't, this is something that happens always when a player is on loan, he can play against everyone except the club that loaned the player. Of course this is not the case of Jackson here. It's the first time I read something like this but to me, that's correct and I can respect the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 But it's not automatic, it is simply what the loaning club wants to put in there. I know this because Barça never does it and Real Madrid almost always does it. The idea is that you don't want a player you have discarded to embarrass you playing the ones you thought were better. The other philosophy would be that if you let him play against you it is motivating for him, he will show his ability, and that way you may get him, take him back after the loan, even stronger. So it is cowardly, as I see it, to not allow a loaned out player to play the original club, and I agree it should not be allowed. Leagues should establish rules that any loaned player is fully the property of the team he plays for and fully available for his coach for any game. Or FIFA should set it up, it is totally unnatural and discriminatory . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 But it's not automatic, it is simply what the loaning club wants to put in there. I know this because Barça never does it and Real Madrid almost always does it. The idea is that you don't want a player you have discarded to embarrass you playing the ones you thought were better. The other philosophy would be that if you let him play against you it is motivating for him, he will show his ability, and that way you may get him, take him back after the loan, even stronger. So it is cowardly, as I see it, to not allow a loaned out player to play the original club, and I agree it should not be allowed. Leagues should establish rules that any loaned player is fully the property of the team he plays for and fully available for his coach for any game. Or FIFA should set it up, it is totally unnatural and discriminatory . You can't expect a player to play against the team that owns him that is pretty ridiculous and just asking for trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 In England, it's in the rules that a loaned player cannot play against their parent club. It's actually specifically against the rules to have a 'gentlemen's agreement' in cases of a player being sold outright. These issues came to light back when the whole Carlos Tevez fiasco was playing out and the various conflict-of-interest situations were getting major play in the English press. Obviously, the rules in Spain are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I think the loan system in England is terribly flawed because they allow loans to clubs in the same division as the club that owns the player's contract, and then don't allow those players to play against their contracted club. This means you can loan a good player to a weaker club in your own division and all the other teams have to play against that player except you. In my opinion this skews the competition. For instance, Man City loans Joe Hart to Birmingham. When Birmingham had Joe Hart in their line up last year they were extremely hard to beat. Good teams drop points against them. However, Man City only had to play against Birmingham's back-up goalkeeper, which I think gives them an unfair advantage. This system inherently favours the richest clubs as they can afford larger squads and can loan out top prospects. The more contracted players you have loaned out around the division, you are potentially setting up situations where you will be facing a weaker side than your top rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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