rico Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Just wondering don't you think there should be a guaranteed spot for a Canadian team or expand the tournament for Canadian teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I think SuperLiga should become a CONCACAF Second Tournament, but it's doubtful that a lot of nations could pitch teams in (stadia sizes). Unfortunate, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 well its supposed to be a tournament for Mexico Canada and the U.S.A but there is no Canadian teams playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 well its supposed to be a tournament for Mexico Canada and the U.S.A but there is no Canadian teams playing That is strange but probably more marketting than anything else. It sounds better when you say "North American Super League" than " Mexico & USA Super League". The Canadian clubs seem focused on the CCL as a possible path to extra games. Add in some high profile exhibitions against Euro clubs warming up and you don't have a lot of time left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdroze Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 well its supposed to be a tournament for Mexico Canada and the U.S.A but there is no Canadian teams playing I don't think it's really "supposed" to include Canada at all, actually. IMHO, it's a tournament designed entirely to extract as much money as possible from people of Mexican descent who are now living in the USA. Notice that all of the games are played in the USA. Kind of strange, no? Officially, the tournament is supposed to include the top four MLS teams not already in the CONCACAF Champion's league. Up until now, Toronto FC has not made the top four, so there's been no worry about having a Canadian team take the place of an American team. It'll be interesting to see what happens if TFC "earns" a Superliga spot this year based on their MLS standing; I have a feeling the tournament organizers will not be thrilled about that, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some more last-minute rule changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Well if the Canadian teams are more interested in CONCACAF Champion's league. Why not fight for a second spot take one away from Belize or Nicaragua because there spots are always token away because of stadium issues! Especially since next year we will have four teams participating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I don't think it's really "supposed" to include Canada at all, actually. IMHO, it's a tournament designed entirely to extract as much money as possible from people of Mexican descent who are now living in the USA. Notice that all of the games are played in the USA. Kind of strange, no? Officially, the tournament is supposed to include the top four MLS teams not already in the CONCACAF Champion's league. Up until now, Toronto FC has not made the top four, so there's been no worry about having a Canadian team take the place of an American team. It'll be interesting to see what happens if TFC "earns" a Superliga spot this year based on their MLS standing; I have a feeling the tournament organizers will not be thrilled about that, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some more last-minute rule changes. The tournament is also supposed to be about re-creating the Mexico-US rivalry that exists on the national stage. That kind of hate doesn't exist for the CMNT like it does the MMNT. And the Canada-Mexico rivalry is not nearly what the US-Mexico rivalry is either. I'd rather see the tournament as a 2nd CONCACAF tournament, but once again, stadia sizes are the problem. And also, it's about the US and Mexico, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 well if they make it into a 2nd tournament for CONCACAF wouldn't they have to expand the champions league to be more like Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the biologist Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 And also, it's about the US and Mexico, nothing more.You have to love the logo description on the Wikipedia website, how couldn't you ?: Logo The SuperLiga logo, which depicts two swirling feathers, took its inspiration from symbols common to the homes of both involved leagues: the Bald Eagle native to the United States and the Golden Eagle native to Mexico and appearing on its flag, both birds are also native to Canada. LOL !!! "Oh, and BTW, you can find these birds in Canada as well, isn't that cool ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 You have to love the logo description on the Wikipedia website, how couldn't you ?: Logo The SuperLiga logo, which depicts two swirling feathers, took its inspiration from symbols common to the homes of both involved leagues: the Bald Eagle native to the United States and the Golden Eagle native to Mexico and appearing on its flag, both birds are also native to Canada. LOL !!! "Oh, and BTW, you can find these birds in Canada as well, isn't that cool ?" And neither one of them is the national bird of our country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Well, the logo would look a lot less cool with a goose crapping all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I don't think it's really "supposed" to include Canada at all, actually. IMHO, it's a tournament designed entirely to extract as much money as possible from people of Mexican descent who are now living in the USA. Notice that all of the games are played in the USA. Kind of strange, no? Officially, the tournament is supposed to include the top four MLS teams not already in the CONCACAF Champion's league. Up until now, Toronto FC has not made the top four, so there's been no worry about having a Canadian team take the place of an American team. It'll be interesting to see what happens if TFC "earns" a Superliga spot this year based on their MLS standing; I have a feeling the tournament organizers will not be thrilled about that, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some more last-minute rule changes. This is what I have always understood it as. Is Toronto even eligible to play in this tournament? They can't qualify for the CCL via MLS, and I have never read anywhere that they can qualify for this tournament. Besides, Toronto can't play in both the CCL and the SuperLiga. And we don't know if Toronto will qualify for the 2011 CCL until next June. And the same will be true with Vancouver and Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 so really this is a logistics nightmare that they never planed for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and White Army Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 From the SuperLiga Wikipedia page, it sounds like a Canadian MLS club could qualify, as the competition is supposedly sanctioned by the CSA. Rico: it wouldn't be a logistics nightmare. European clubs don't play in both the UEFA Champions League and the Europa League. The same applies to CONCACAF: a club wouldn't play in both the Champions League and the SuperLiga. The Champions League is the superior competition, and thus has priority. If a Canadian MLS club wins the Voyageurs Cup, they would play in the CONCACAF Champions League. If a Canadian MLS club does not win the Voyageurs Cup (and thus does not enter the CONCACAF Champions League), they could qualify for the SuperLiga. The top four MLS clubs (from league / regular season play) that are not already in the CONCACAF Champions League are entered into the SuperLiga. So in theory, a Canadian club could finish sixth in MLS and would qualify for the SuperLiga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share Posted July 7, 2010 one day we will see a canadian team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 There is a financial reasons behind winning the superliga as the winner claims the biggest purse in N.A cups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and White Army Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 There is a financial reasons behind winning the superliga as the winner claims the biggest purse in N.A cups More than the Champions League? That's just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 would you say it's easier to win the superliga or champions league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 would you say it's easier to win the superliga or champions league? Superliga. Smaller tournament, and the Mexican sides usually field a combination of reserves and U-18s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 really that doesn't help the competition at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 really that doesn't help the competition at all They don't really care. They're guaranteed a certain amount of cash from SUM for their participation. The tournament does absolutely nothing for their finances, and it means nothing to their players and fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 but if they make money won't it be better if they won the tournament and win the prize money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and White Army Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 As TFCRegina was alluding to, the SuperLiga was really set up by private company SUM, rather than by CONCACAF. That is how crappy our regional football confederation is. I'm not sure if there is any decent prize money for the SuperLiga, either from SUM or from CONCACAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I am not sure the exact amount, however the winning purse for SuperLiga is the largest for any soccer tournament or championship in North America. (CCL, Hunt/Voyageurs Cup, Pro league titles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 well with more Canadian expansion in the pipe line i hope the tourney will expand to give us guaranteed spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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