alberta white Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Yeah I did. It was the British press and really annoying. Especially considering how much the English preach about order and being proper. OK here's a hint - you came in dead last. Stop the petulant fingerpointing and lashing out at anyone and everything in sight and look in the mirror. The latins may dive on the field but the English are all over the ground off it. Aw come on where have you been? The British Press are always annoying! Even the British think So. Perhaps it has something to do most of it been in the Hands of an Australian Born American Citizen who happens to own Fox TV. The British tabloid press is rather annoyed at the moment because they have had their wrists slapped over wiretapping Celebs and politicians. That been said they (the british media) have been after the Fifa Board for years. Post Jose Havalance, they have never been enammered by Sepp and his set up. What is intresting is that throughout the press conference they hardly (if ever)mentioned the Russian Tournament Award. Quite Frankly if you were to ask the general English Public, although they would have loved the tournament in England, would not thank you for all the 'diplomatic baggage that goes with it; and a rather pleased the Russian have it. As for doing the Dirty work for the FA? Sorry but they (the FA) tend to hide in the Toilets whenever the British Media turn up. What does really P#$$ the English off even more than been manipulated in the Bidding was Blatter's inference that the CHINESE invented Football. What they actually recorded was a version of Keepy-Uppy that resulted with the execution of the Lossing party. A bit like Saturday's European Cup Final. (which is a UEFA Tournamnet not a FIFA one- Blatter apparently forgot that as well) Edited May 31, 2011 by alberta white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Threats of using courts...shocking Now Qatar is preparing to take action. "Qatar 2022 categorically deny any wrongdoing in connection with their winning bid," it said in a statement released on Monday afternoon. "We are urgently seeking clarification from Fifa about the statement from their general secretary. In the meantime we are taking legal advice to consider our options." Soon as the Amir of Qatar gets invoved FIFA will declare Goverment Involvemnt / Interference and Kick them out of the Organisation thus rendering the Qatar Bid redundant and will promplty hand it to the USA. Nice One Chuck! Or am I been too conspiritorial here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Not just the British press then. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/fifa-on-the-nose-and-blatter-must-fix-it-murray-20110530-1fd1p.html The Age is less than complimentary, http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/shifting-sands-of-power-base-20110530-1fcr7.html Nick Xenaphons Take on it is actually entertaining! http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8255525/fifas-crisis-denial-bizarre-xenophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Yeah I did. It was the British press and really annoying. Especially considering how much the English preach about order and being proper. OK here's a hint - you came in dead last. Stop the petulant fingerpointing and lashing out at anyone and everything in sight and look in the mirror. The latins may dive on the field but the English are all over the ground off it. I couldn't believe my eyes and ears how disrespectful the British media was at the press conference today. I would have had them escorted out of the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I couldn't believe my eyes and ears how disrespectful the British media was at the press conference today. I would have had them escorted out of the building. That was relativley tame. You should see the SH#T they give to the Encumbent England Manager(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 The infighting is only good for FIFA. The more they fight, the more the corruption comes out, the more untenable the anti-Reform position of the organization. Agreed. It's nice to see that they are airing their dirty laundry in public. It sure is better than it happening in private, because thats where the problem is to begin with. We are all happy to see Warner go, but I'd like to see more heads roll because I don't want to see the guys who gave us and kept Warner around, picking the next guy. As far as Blazzer, does anyone actually believe that we, as Canadian supporters, would be better off with another guy from the carribean or central America? Who do we think is more sympathetic or understanding of our plight. An american, or someone from central America that sepp blather endorses or picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) as the Amir of Qatar gets invoved FIFA will declare Goverment Involvemnt / Interference and Kick them out of the Organisation thus rendering the Qatar Bid redundant and will promplty hand it to the USA. Well it should not be handed to the US. But Qatar has no business hosting a world cup. It reeked of corruption from the second I heard that they were awarded the WC because there is absolutely no criteria by which Qatar could pass if judged on the most basic elements of merit. There is nothing and absolutely nothing ( they don't have stadia, they don't have the infrastructure, they don't have the decent league, they don't have geography, they dont have a decent national team, they don't have the climate...etc) that Qatar could possibly have over the US. Notice that no one is complaining about the selection of Russia. That's because you can at least make a case for Edited May 31, 2011 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Notice that no one is complaining about the selection of Russia. That's because you can at least make a case for Agreed 100%. When pushed you'll find it hard to find an English fan who's against Russia hosting on Football grounds. The Russians also Proved they can host Major Finals as well. Ironically, between two English Clubs. What worries the UK is the Russian Mafia angle, and the possibility of been ripped off during the Tournament-Yes I know, the Irony bells ringing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Yeah I did. It was the British press and really annoying. Especially considering how much the English preach about order and being proper. OK here's a hint - you came in dead last. Stop the petulant fingerpointing and lashing out at anyone and everything in sight and look in the mirror. The latins may dive on the field but the English are all over the ground off it. Oh come on! I'm not British and and sure I agree that when it comes to this game the english can really turn you off with their superiority complex. But that press conference was a total sham and complete stone wall. All Blatter did was waste time by saying nothing of any value or relevance for the first fifteen minutes and then when questions came, he did the same. He did not answer questions and did not even give good bs. He came across as very arrogant and you can tell that his motives was just to say, he held a press conference. He would be asked about one thing and his answer would have nothing to do with what was asked. Clearly they know nothing about PR because they cannot even BS properly. He would adjust his microphone to stall and didnt answer simple two part questions. A twelve year old would haven been more articulate than the Sepp Blatter that we saw in the press conference. We have just been through an election in Canada. We have seen how politicians and public figures handle themselves in public. Sure, you can say that the public is sometimes gullible but any modern day public figure that handled himself in that manner, the public wold see through him immeddiate and they would lambasted and turfed out. This shows how that organization is out of touch with reality. Edited May 31, 2011 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 As far as Blazzer, does anyone actually believe that we, as Canadian supporters, would be better off with another guy from the carribean or central America? Who do we think is more sympathetic or understanding of our plight. An american, or someone from central America that sepp blather endorses or picks? Blazer would be a disaster for the Canada and the confederation. There is no honour among thieves, and this whole mess is simply a demonstration of that. Give me someone honest and competent, irrespective of place of origin, and Canada will be better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spungi Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Not to mention, that being from the US Blazer is more likely to take a CONCACAF approach that favours the larger and more successful FA/SAs. The proposed change to WC qualifying (which eliminated a Mexico/US game) was good for Canada, but unlikely to happen under Blazer's watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 If anyone from the Caribbean is elected to replace Warner they will only be his puppet, much the same way the T&T FA is still run by Warner despite him not holding any official role with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 ^ I guess it remains to be seen how much influence he has without money and power. Oh come on! I'm not British and and sure I agree that when it comes to this game the english can really turn you off with their superiority complex. But that press conference was a total sham and complete stone wall. All Blatter did was waste time by saying nothing of any value or relevance for the first fifteen minutes and then when questions came, he did the same. He did not answer questions and did not even give good bs. He came across as very arrogant and you can tell that his motives was just to say, he held a press conference. He would be asked about one thing and his answer would have nothing to do with what was asked. Clearly they know nothing about PR because they cannot even BS properly. If you read the transcript - he was answering questions. You were expecting more, but really how much on point of Warner/Bin Hammam can he say? http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/30/blatters-news-conference-live/ He warned them - this was halfway through the Q&A: I accepted to have a press conference with you alone here. I respect you, please respect me. If you ask for a question ask for the mic. We are not in a bazaar here, we are in FIFA House. People started heckling and grandstanding. Blatter had enough and wasn't going to turn it into a circus. You can blame him but I'm not sure he did the wrong thing. The American government handles reporters like that by removing them from the equation to make sure it never happens again. You can call that undemocratic, but the people who ask difficult questions civilly and in a constructive way are still in the room and still asking questions. We have just been through an election in Canada. We have seen how politicians and public figures handle themselves in public. --> During an election <-- Sit in the House of Commons any other day of the week and watch your eyes roll right back in your head. Then magnify the stonewall a thousand times and you have the United Nations. There's a million Rwandans and Yugoslavians that back that up. It's always going to be a party when you put countries like Iraq, Iran, China, Nigeria, the U.S.A. and North Korea in the room and turn out the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Blazer would be a disaster for the Canada and the confederation. There is no honour among thieves, and this whole mess is simply a demonstration of that. Give me someone honest and competent, irrespective of place of origin, and Canada will be better off. Yes, that criteria would be at the top of the list. But other than that, you are saying that you prefer the devil that we have never heard of rather than the devil whose name we know. Other than the fact, that he is an American, we don't have anything on Blazer right now. The only thing we know about him is his involvement with the Cosmos in the old NASL, that he was the next in charge in the region and that he is the whistle blower in this episode . Everything that has occurred in this region, that smells fishy, has had Warner's finger prints all over. I wouldn't disagree that we can lump them all under umbrella of suspicious characters but honestly, can someone name me another name in the region? If we accept that whomever is named is going to have a decision making bias towards his home land, then how is a central American or Caribbean figure going to help Canada? We are unique in the region in that we are a developed country where the sport is growing but is not culturally entrenched in the same manner as it is in central America. We have sport that needs to compete with other sports in order to grow in numbers of players and supporters. We need someone who understands this and understands what needs to be done to foster the growth of the game at upper echelons of the club structures. We have challenges in making the sport credible to the audiences and drawing fans and support from more mainstream audiences as opposed to being niche whereby ex pat route for their ancestral homeland. Again, who is likely to understand these challenges? An American or some guy from the Caribbean or central America who already who is already predisposed to resent our socio economic standing. Edited May 31, 2011 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 UEFA is so strong. Someone who has out best interests at heart would be nice but I'd go for anyone who can take CONCACAF to the next level in terms of economics and organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 btw, for a great live blog of all this go here http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/31/fifa-in-crisis-live-blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Jack Warner already in trouble over violating his ban from FIFA activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/8548198/Jack-Warner-accused-of-breaking-Fifa-suspension-as-presidential-election-set-to-go-ahead-despite-FA-plea.html "Warner has been suspended from all football-related activity pending an inquiry into bribery allegations but has been reported for breaching the terms of that ban. Blazer, who blew the whistle on the bribery claims, said the Concacaf president had still been getting involved in the business of the confederation. Blazer said Warner had been meeting associations and that a statement from acting Concacaf president Lisle Austin had come from Warner's aide. Blazer said: "We have clear evidence of a violation of his suspension and we have reported that to the Fifa secretary general Jerome Valcke. He added: "He has also been meeting with [Concacaf] members, which is against the rules of the suspension." Warner this afternoon made public a letter he had written to the 25 members of the Caribbean Football Union – an action in itself that could be a breach of this suspension – urging them to vote for Sepp Blatter in tomorrow's election and make no protest." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 If anyone from the Caribbean is elected to replace Warner they will only be his puppet, much the same way the T&T FA is still run by Warner despite him not holding any official role with them. That is a pretty big brush - lets refine it a bit, because while you are correct about the current members of CONCACAF, I am pretty sure there are some honest folk involved with soccer in the Carribean. In my first post I queried who isn't tainted by corruption. I think all 35 associations are, including the CSA. Bribes take many forms, including youth tournaments. We did'nt say a damn word, and kept voting for Warner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 That is a pretty big brush - lets refine it a bit, because while you are correct about the current members of CONCACAF, I am pretty sure there are some honest folk involved with soccer in the Carribean. In my first post I queried who isn't tainted by corruption. I think all 35 associations are, including the CSA. Bribes take many forms, including youth tournaments. We did'nt say a damn word, and kept voting for Warner. I'm not painting all of the Caribbean FA's with the same brush, obviously the ones who came forward had some integrity. I just think with all the power Warner held for so long and all the connections he still possesses and the likely green-ness of the replacement, there will be a lot of puppetmastery for the first little while as the new guy manouevres the waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I'm not painting all of the Caribbean FA's with the same brush, obviously the ones who came forward had some integrity. I just think with all the power Warner held for so long and all the connections he still possesses and the likely green-ness of the replacement, there will be a lot of puppetmastery for the first little while as the new guy manouevres the waters. Yes, it is going to be tricky unless the whole house of cards comes down. Even then. There will have to be a whole lot over transparency and oversight built into FIFA as a whole. The only way that will happen is if FIFA has no choice. Sort of like the Black Sox scandal lead to the power the Baseball commissioner had to protect the game until fairly recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 BBC Radio reporting that CONCACAF have sacked Chuckie G! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 btw, for a great live blog of all this go here http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/31/fifa-in-crisis-live-blog That would be the "Shout at Blatter in a Press Conference-British press" Guardian (or to those who know the paper well, THE GROINDIARDEN, as they never installed a spell checker). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 BBC Radio reporting that CONCACAF have sacked Chuckie G! Well this **** show just got a fresh infusion of Number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Chuck Blazer officially UNFIRED by CONCACAF. Austin declared to not have the authority to fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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