jpg75 Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 I'm curious how they stumbled upon this guy? He's playing at a level below former Cdn U20 player Manny Gomez, maybe we should give Manny a trial while we're at it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Courtesy of this comment on the TFC website story:- http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100214&content_id=8074958&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280 Ojala pueda quedarse uno de los nuevos jugadores que se estan probando, Junior Ischia. Lo vi jugar en Argentina, en Velez e Independiente y es un buen jugador y le deseo mucha suerte. Gracias, Raulito. It turns out that he has played at the top level in Argentina for Independiente and Velez Sarsfield:- http://www.eleco.com.ar/index.php?action=detalle&modul=noticias&id_noticia=4792 Sticking that into google reveals that he is a central midfielder and a lot of his career appears to have been tied into his father having been a famous player:- http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eleco.com.ar%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddetalle%26modul%3Dnoticias%26id_noticia%3D4792&sl=es&tl=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 So yeah, i'd say his dad is famous in Argentine football, he was the coach of Boca Juniors the last couple of seasons! Carlos Ischia, i'd recognize that bald dome anywhere... BTW, Junior was born in Colombia while his father was playing there. He's an '86, he turns 24 in March. Started at Velez as an 18 year old, moved to Colombia to play for Junior - his dads old team - before moving back and playing for Independiente de Avellaneda (not the same as the La Plata team). Then he joined Santamarina... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Looks like Paul Dickov may not be able to play for an English club until the start of the 2010/11 season starts in August but Leeds United are trying to find a way around the FIFA regulations that are involved.. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/football/Leeds-retain-hopes-of-signing.6075358.jp ...Grayson wants to sign Dickov, who made 16 appearances when on loan at Derby County in the autumn, but FIFA regulations stipulate a player can represent a maximum of two clubs in one season in the same country...."If Paul signs for us, we would be his third club of the season and the problem is a player can only appear for two clubs within a certain window..."We are trying to investigate a way round it. Dickov has gone to America and he will have a look but be back with us on Wednesday or Thursday. We can then see where we are with FIFA and UEFA. He is a player I like. He has played for me before (at Blackpool) and I want competition for places. I won't say it will definitely happen but he looked fit and lively in training..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Grayson needs a geography lesson........................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viruk42 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Grayson needs a geography lesson........................................... Not really, Canada is still part of North America. Just because the yanks seem to have claimed the terms "America" and "Americans" as their own doesn't mean the other 30 countries in North, Central and South America aren't in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 MLS is also considered an "American" league....oh, and the fact that training camp is in Florida, which is in "America" might have something to do with it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Latest trialists are Martin Saric, Alexei Emerenko and forward Kosta Bajic according to Luke Wileman:- http://twitter.com/LukeWileman Martin Saric appears to be a right midfielder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_%C5%A0ari%C4%87 http://www.imscouting.com/players/martin-saric/ Assuming Emerenko is the moderately well known Finnish international I suspect he would probably be used in left midfield if signed:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Eremenko I've had no luck tracking down any forwards called Kosta Bajic. I suspect he is probably a youth player from Serbia, who never made the breakthrough onto a first team roster and therefore doesn't show up where search engines are concerned. That would be much the same scenario as Preki moving to Tacoma Stars in the MISL 25 years ago, basically. Latest preseason game was a 0-0 draw with DC United:- http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100217&content_id=8085170&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280 Preki says he is happy with how things are going:- http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100217&content_id=8086784&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280 http://torontofc.neulion.com/tfc/console.jsp?catid=2&id=1613 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I'm really hoping TFC can sign Eremenko and Kayizzi both would lock up the wing spots on the pitch. -----------------Frei Wynne-Attakora-?????-Brennan ----------Cronin----JDG Kayizzi-------------------Eremenko -----------------DeRo ---------------Gerba Add a quality CB and TFC is looking pretty good especially when Peterson and Barrett get healthy and they would have a pretty quality bench as well in Barrett, OB, Peterson, Robinson, Gomez/Sanyang, Harden, Edwards Dan Gargan has also seemed to impress from what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Centre back is the obvious niche for Carl Robinson, in my opinion. All depends if he really is the model pro he has been portrayed as and can be persuaded to accept that he is now surplus to requirements in central mid with the arrival and emergence of JDG and Cronin and that to earn his > $300k this season he needs to help the team out by giving a central defence role 100%. I suspect Preki will want viable inexpensive options at both left and right back who can replace Wynne and Brennan if they fail to buy into his system. Harden appears to be left sided and may provide that on the left, while Gargan appears to be the potential option as cover on the right for Wynne. With either Robinson or Garcia as experienced players for the centre back role that would leave Attakora, Gomez, Herold and Harden (assuming Brennan starts regularly) battling it out to provide a bit of pace. I question whether Attakora's distribution will be good enough initially to satisfy Preki. Even if his career temporarily takes a step back he will probably wind up a better player playing on a more possession oriented team, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Centre back is the obvious niche for Carl Robinson, in my opinion. All depends if he really is the model pro he has been portrayed as and can be persuaded to accept that he is now surplus to requirements in central mid with the arrival and emergence of JDG and Cronin and that to earn his > $300k this season he needs to help the team out by giving a central defence role 100%. I suspect Preki will want viable inexpensive options at both left and right back who can replace Wynne and Brennan if they fail to buy into his system. Harden appears to be left sided and may provide that on the left, while Gargan appears to be the potential option as cover on the right for Wynne. With either Robinson or Garcia as experienced players for the centre back role that would leave Attakora, Gomez, Herold and Harden (assuming Brennan starts regularly) battling it out to provide a bit of pace. I question whether Attakora's distribution will be good enough initially to satisfy Preki. Even if his career temporarily takes a step back he will probably wind up a better player playing on a more possession oriented team, however. I could live with Robinson at CB for a season while Nana and Gomez pick up another year of seasoning. It may be the only place he will be able to get regular starts at. Gargan seems like he could be a better option than Wynne at RB would be ocniderably cheaper and from what I've seen and read on him is thta he can actaully distrubte the ball. Yes we would scrafice some pace, but would gain another playmaker. Wynne could provide a great return in a trade or transfer deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 I've had no luck tracking down any forwards called Kosta Bajic. I suspect he is probably a youth player from Serbia, who never made the breakthrough onto a first team roster and therefore doesn't show up where search engines are concerned. That would be much the same scenario as Preki moving to Tacoma Stars in the MISL 25 years ago, basically. Bajic is an '89 who played with Futog Viskol in the Serbian lower leagues. They appear to be atleast 3rd Division or lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Found that link as well but that team are so low down the food chain I find it hard to believe a player from there would be brought over for a trial. Bear in mind that in a pyramid league structure like Serbia's there are vast numbers of teams once you get down to the lower levels so Futog Viskol are probably not much more than a pub team. Do you have any evidence it's the same guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 I'm not 100% sure, but i don't see why it couldn't be him. We have a player (Ischia) who is older than Bajic and was playing in the 5th tier of the Argentina pyramid currently on trial. Bajic is very young and if he has been getting regular PT then he might have the potential to play at a much higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Think you'll find that Ischia was playing at the third tier and given he had played in the top division and has a famous father that may have been a case of an ambitious lower division team offering him a good contract for PR reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 Ischia played primarily in the reserves at Velez and Junior, his only regular PT has come in the lower leagues. http://www.elpais.com.co/paisonline/deportes2003/notas/Enero042008/depor01.html Anyways, i don't see why it's so unbelievable that Preki would bring in a 21 year old who has played in the lower leagues in Serbia. I wonder how Europeans must react when they find out their team is signing a US College player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 If Serbia had a league structure like England's where the fifth tier is a single nationwide division it wouldn't be so strange but in most smaller European countries the regionalization starts at the third tier and with up to three or four feeders per division you can easily be looking at over 20 separate 16 to 18 team divisions by the time you get down to the fifth tier, which in a relatively small country like Serbia means you are beginning to approach pub team standards. Also worth bearing in mind that top clubs will often have many more youth players than they will ever sign to a first team contract so youth players with any talent are unlikely to be linked to a fifth tier team when they are in their late teens especially close to a large city like Novi Sad which has arguably the third biggest club in Serbia in the top tier and a couple of smaller ones in the second national division. Having said all that it turns out that right night door to Futog is another town called Veternik and a team called Veternik Viskol are currently top of the Vojvodina section of the Serbian third tier. Maybe a recent relocation and name change? If that is the club Bajic has been playing for of late it wouldn't be so bizarre:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futog http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veternik http://www.rsssf.com/tabless/serv2010.html#voj Couldn't find a mention of him on their website, however:- http://fkveternikviskol.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2&Itemid=4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 If Serbia had a league structure like England's where the fifth tier is a single nationwide division it wouldn't be so strange but in most smaller European countries the regionalization starts at the third tier and with up to three or four feeders per division you can be looking at over 20 separate 16 to 18 team divisions by the time you get down to the fifth tier, which means you are beginning to approach pub team standards. Also worth bearing in mind that top clubs will often have many more youth players than they will ever sign so youth players with any talent are unlikely to be linked to a fifth tier team especially close to a large city like Novi Sad which has arguably the third biggest club in Serbia in top tier and a couple of smaller ones in the second. Having said all that it turns out that right night door to Futog on the outskirts of Novi Sad there is another town called Veternik and a team called Viskol Veternik are currently top of the Vojvodina section of the Serbian third tier. Maybe a recent relocation and/or a name change? If that is the club Bajic has been playing for of late it wouldn't be so bizarre:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futog http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veternik http://www.rsssf.com/tabless/serv2010.html#voj Couldn't find a mention of him on their website, however:- http://fkveternikviskol.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2&Itemid=4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 Thanks for the unannoying lecture on European football. The link states that Bajic was with Futog Viskol since 2006 as a 17 year old. It's quite possible alot has changed in the last 3-4 years. Perhaps he was in the youth system of a big club and then left for one reason or another (ie.injuries, nepotism/politics, lack of contract) or maybe he's a late bloomer, or he plays a physical game and is better suited playing against men at a lower level instead of a more technical game against better skilled players his own age. It could be anything, we're speculating. Instead of worrying where the kid came from, we should be trying to find out whether he's good enough to stick with the club. Cuz all i care about is whether someone can play and less on which club they used to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Dickov has gone back to the UK to sign with Leeds. TFC currently playing in the Disney Cup (or whatever it's called) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Dickov has gone back to the UK to sign with Leeds. TFC currently playing in the Disney Cup (or whatever it's called) He has but his deal, if they can get around the two team per country FIFA regulation, is only to the end of the Leeds season which is May 8th at home to Bristol Rovers. After that, he's a a free agent again. If TFC still wants him and if he wants us, we could get him at that point and at that time, we would have played eight league games and one cup game. I don't know how windows would effect that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livesareavailable Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 If the Leeds thing (or Leeds/Leicester or Derby thing) does happen, and if this has been brought about by Fifa actually allowing him to sign with Leeds, rather than the other loophole possibilities (google Arron Davies), then he would be under contract past the end of our primary window. If Leeds do hold his contract, and for some reason didn't want PD any longer, they could sell him to TFC for a pound at 23:45 on April 15th (Dichio style). Past that point, if Dickov has any interest in this move (???), it would be July 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 If the Leeds thing (or Leeds/Leicester or Derby thing) does happen, and if this has been brought about by Fifa actually allowing him to sign with Leeds, rather than the other loophole possibilities (google Arron Davies), then he would be under contract past the end of our primary window. If Leeds do hold his contract, and for some reason didn't want PD any longer, they could sell him to TFC for a pound at 23:45 on April 15th (Dichio style). Past that point, if Dickov has any interest in this move (???), it would be July 15th. Thank you for the clarifcations re the windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Paul James summarized the NYRB game quite well in his blog in case anybody missed it:- http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/james-on-soccer/preki-still-has-much-work-to-do/article1484480/ The game should have been all the evidence that was needed that Bajic and Ijeh are not the answer up front, while Gargan definitely didn't look too clever at right back. I think he is right that Nane Joseph is a project at best. Looked OK sometimes but his distribution is suspect to say the least. This TFC website article makes it sound like only Milos Kocic is left of all the trialists:- http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100303&content_id=8661118&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280 Trialist goalkeeper Milos Kocic is still with the Reds squad. The former D.C. United goalkeeper played for TFC in the second half of the 1-0 win against FC Dallas in the first game of the Walt Disney World Pro Soccer Classic last week. but I wouldn't rule out that being visa related where Kayizzi and Saric are concerned. Dickov just signed for Leeds United:- http://www.leeds.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=190393 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I see elsewhere that Mo Johnston mentioned that a Latvian left-back would be arriving in Charleston for a trial. Probably means they are still not sold on Nane Jospeh as cover for Jim Brennan. My guess on the identity of the Latvian player would be Anton Kurakins from Celtic's reserve team. Beyond the obvious reasons why Mo Johnston would have contacts in his case he played at BMO Field last summer in the Celtic vs Benfica game. http://www.celticfc.com/news/stories/news_070409120051.aspx Under-19 full-back Grant Gallacher was impressive for McStay’s men, while Latvian left-back Anton Kurakins and winger Phil Johnston also stepped up from the youths to gain more experience. http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=289776 Lucas Santonocito and Anton Kurakins started for the first time with the first team, with other youngsters James Forrest and Krisjanis Vallers opening Wednesday's match on the bench set to make their first-team debuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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