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quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard

It's worth noting also that he hasn't actually played for Chivas yet so Preki doesn't appear to have rated him that highly.

I believe that's because Harmse was out injured with tendonitis for the rest of the season after the trade, rather than whatever Preki may have rated him as. The Chivas website still lists him as injured (although the page in question hasn't been updated since Nov.12th),. Harmse picked up the injury at the National team Gold Cup training camp just after the trade, so he never really had a chance to show what we could do there just yet.

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Should have double checked that. He is a very marginal talent in MLS terms but with at least one and probably two more Canadian teams on the horizon I suspect there is potentially going to be an ongoing niche for him (assuming the roster regulations stay the same) even if it doesn't work out with Chivas now that Preki has moved on.

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quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca

I believe that's because Harmse was out injured with tendonitis for the rest of the season after the trade, rather than whatever Preki may have rated him as. The Chivas website still lists him as injured (although the page in question hasn't been updated since Nov.12th),. Harmse picked up the injury at the National team Gold Cup training camp just after the trade, so he never really had a chance to show what we could do there just yet.

Yes, his injury wasn't improving but I read somewhere that the team eventually had to put him on injured reserve to make roster room for one of their new, mid season striker

signings, so Harmse didn't get a chance to show much, though judging from reports he was doing some training with Chivas before his season was halted.

Regardless, here's hoping that TFC fans in 2010 will be enjoying the start of the Preki Era and not the Preki Error.

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quote:Originally posted by Rudi

Ibrahim is a GA player and thus effectively makes ZERO dollars against the cap.

Why would you even consider throwing away a free, 18 year old striker?

Ibrahim could be a tradeable asset for those very reasons. This is also his third and final season as a GA so that needs to be taken into account as well. If Mo identifies a player that could help the team immediately and trading Ibrahim could make it happen i don't see why Mo doesn't pull the trigger. Of course there's always the chance that Ibrahim turns into a perennial all-star and the trade goes down as a clunker ;)

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quote:Originally posted by jpg75

Ibrahim could be a tradeable asset for those very reasons. This is also his third and final season as a GA so that needs to be taken into account as well. If Mo identifies a player that could help the team immediately and trading Ibrahim could make it happen i don't see why Mo doesn't pull the trigger. Of course there's always the chance that Ibrahim turns into a perennial all-star and the trade goes down as a clunker ;)

I believe GA players have up to four years of eligibility, but I'mnot sure on that point.

And yeah, he's a tradeable asset, but I was responding to the post implying that Ibbe been "shown the door", which to me means simply cutting him loose.

That scenario is insanity.

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quote:Originally posted by Rudi

I believe GA players have up to four years of eligibility, but I'mnot sure on that point.

And yeah, he's a tradeable asset, but I was responding to the post implying that Ibbe been "shown the door", which to me means simply cutting him loose.

That scenario is insanity.

Yeah your definitely right Ibbe has nothing to worry about in terms of being released. That GA eligibility though will work to our advantage as jpg said it could make him a sought after striker in the MLS for any team pushing close to the cap.

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quote:Originally posted by Rudi

I believe GA players have up to four years of eligibility, but I'mnot sure on that point.

And yeah, he's a tradeable asset, but I was responding to the post implying that Ibbe been "shown the door", which to me means simply cutting him loose.

That scenario is insanity.

Oh yeah, if it's being implied that they release him then it's a waste of an asset - even if he is taking up an international spot. They could definitely get something for Ibby.

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This is slightly old news, but I haven't seen anyone mention this (scottish) Striker who was linked with TFC in early December.

He could potentially be a quality MLS striker. Mo Johnston would be without a doubt high on this guy.

in 22 matches has 8 goals for Killie in the SPL.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/scottish/scottish_sport/631521/Toronto-FC-eye-up-Kilmarnock-skipper-Kyle-for-a-move-across-the-Atlantic.html

Also anyone think Canadian Dave Simpson who's a free agent (last club was Integrál-DAC) could be looked at as a TFC potential player. We could use an effective wing player.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Simpson_%28soccer%29

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I think Dave Simpson would be an excellent fit for TFC, he's at least good enough to be a squad player with the team. I think the problem will be the "trial" he had with the team last season, where he felt he was only training with the team to get back his fitness but Carver though he was on trial of spot on the roster.

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TFC had a look at Dave Simpson in 2008, for what it's worth:-

http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20080805&content_id=178049&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

Toronto born striker Dave Simpson trained with Toronto FC on Tuesday. The Canadian international is without a club after his contract ended at Sparta Prague (Czech Republic) "He's out of contract and back home so he is training with us for a few days," said Carver. Simpson is 25 years old.

http://thestar.blogs.com/torontofc/2008/08/striker-surplus.html

As for the Canadian content...

I'd wait a while before inventing a David Simpson chant.

The former Toronto Lynx forward has been working out with TFC all week, and while Carver plans to extend the tryout into next week, he admits the 25-year-old Scarborough native has underwhelmed the coaching staff.

"He certainly hasn't jumped out and hit me in the face to say 'lets sign him,'" Carver said. "Because I would have signed him by now."

Well at least Simpson knows where he stands.

And now so do we.

As UltraSuperMegaMo points out above there was some dispute after that snippet appeared on the Toronto Star website as to whether he was actually on trial or just training with the team.

http://www.canadian-soccer.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16734&whichpage=1

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Where Fuad Ibrahim and the duration of Generation Adidas contracts are concerned it's worth noting that Mo Edu's Generation Adidas contract was for three years with an additional two year option.

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=192335

Edu, a defensive midfielder from the University of Maryland, has signed a five-year deal - three years plus a two-year option - with Generation Adidas.

If that's the standard approach and this link suggests it is:-

http://www.athleticbusiness.com/articles/article.aspx?articleid=2012&zoneid=28

Specifically, they signed "Generation adidas" contracts. Offered to roughly 10 select underclassmen each year, such deals guarantee a player three years of professional salary, with two one-year options. Players know how much they will make before they even know which MLS jersey they will wear. That's how it has worked since 1997, the first year of the joint program set up by MLS and U.S. Soccer to pool the nation's top young talent prior to the MLS draft in January and before foreign clubs can lure American players away.

Ibrahim still potentially has two years to go as a Generation Adidas player if the additional option years are picked up and Marvell Wynne is now entering the last season of his original five year deal with MLS which I strongly suspect was deliberately designed to provide whichever team he would ultimately play for with a relatively low number against the salary cap ($57k) even after his graduation out of the GA program and onto the senior roster.

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The GenAd contract may be 3 years with 2 one year options, but that does not keep a player on roster and salary exemption for the full 5 years. Actually, i'm inclined to believe that only re-inforces the fact that the GenAd exemption only lasts the first 3 years and the option years force the player onto the Senior roster.

http://www.mlsnet.com/mls/events/superdraft/2009/article.jsp?ymd=20090115&content_id=212510&vkey=draft2009&fext=.jsp

"The Fire selected forward Baggio Husidic, who played three years at the University of Illinois-Chicago. He is a Generation adidas player, which means he does not count against the Fire's roster count, and is already under contract for three years."

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According to this link Ibrahim definitely signed a five year deal with MLS. The wording of the article makes it sound like the money would be coming from the Generation Adidas program:-

http://nazret.com/blog/index.php?title=ethiopia_15_year_old_abdus_ibrahim_could&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

...Ibrahim actually signed an MLS contract on Jan. 1; he said it was for six figures. Mike Harris, his high school coach, said it was a five-year, $100,000-a-year deal.

The money will come from a program called Generation Adidas.

$B!H(BIt$B!G(Bs a type of contract for young players we have identified as ones we want to nurture,$B!I(B said Evan Wiener, public relations manager for Adidas America, $B!H(Band ones we feel have the potential to become icons for the league and U.S. soccer...

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quote:Originally posted by TheKottonmouthed

Sol Campbell??

However it seems some Premiership clubs have interest in him

Sol Campbell has been linked with TFC before, and very nearly joined the team last year.

I think it would have been a disaster on FieldTurf, but with the new grass field I think (if it's him that Mo hinted at) he could definitely contribute.

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On the cards that something might happen in the build up to the Superdraft according to the Toronto Sun:-

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2010/01/11/12416286-sun.html

Toronto FC director of soccer Mo Johnston is known as a mover and shaker in Major League Soccer circles, always good to make a deal.

And Thursday's MLS SuperDraft should be no different, despite TFC not having a first-round draft pick and having only two picks in the draft (Nos. 24 and 53).

"I've actually been very quiet so far," Johnston said.

The silence won't last long.

"I'm confident we'll be able to get some things done over the next six or seven days," he said. "This year it's all about getting the right guy and the priority is to move up in the draft."

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More on "Trader Mo" wanting to move up:

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2010/01/11/12424976.html

quote:The expansion Philadelphia Union are willing to listen to offers for the No. 1 pick in Thursday’s MLS SuperDraft.

And that could be music to Toronto FC director of soccer Mo Johnston, who is on the record saying he wants to move up in the draft, considered to be one of the deepest in MLS history.

“You never say never,” said Union CEO Nick Sakiewicz. “That offer has not come as of yet. A lot can happen in the next few days — I’ll never discount anything. I’ve seen trades for the first pick come together as close to five minutes away from the pick being made.”

The Union claims the club has been fielding calls from MLS GMs for months.

"The tires started to get kicked right after MLS Cup,” said Sakiewicz. “The tires are flat they’ve been kicked so much.”

TFC’s first-round pick in 2010 belongs to FC Dallas, payment for bringing defender Adrian Serioux to BMO Field in 2009.

The draft is highlighted by Canadian striker Teal Bunbury, who led the NCAA in scoring and won the M.A.C. Hermann Trophy as the top player in college soccer.

Also, Wake Forest's Ike Opara, a six-foot-two rock in the centre of defence, has earned plenty of comparisons to the Los Angeles Galaxy’s 2009 rookie of the year, Omar Gonzalez.

Either would have TFC fans rubbing their hands with glee.

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quote:Originally posted by Rudi

Sol Campbell has been linked with TFC before, and very nearly joined the team last year.

I think it would have been a disaster on FieldTurf, but with the new grass field I think (if it's him that Mo hinted at) he could definitely contribute.

It looks like he'll return with Arsenal.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=724323&sec=transfers&cc=5901

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Could be trade news on the way later today:-

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2010/01/2010-mls-draft-predraft-commentary.html

9:38am- Early favorite for Youngest Looking Parent of a First Round Draft pick honors goes to Alex Bunbury, father of Akron striker Teal Bunbury. A Canadian national team legend, Bunbury looks much closer to 30 than 40 and actually looks younger than a few players in this draft (I won't name any names).

TFC fans might go crazy if they heard that Alex Bunbury and Mo Johnston were seen talking a lot last night, but it should be noted that Bunbury and Johnston were teammates on the 2000 Kansas City MLS Cup-winning team.

Did Toronto FC pull off any trades last night? I was told they did, but I'll wait for more details before saying that they definitely did.

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Latest elsewhere courtesy of dantdot on the RPB board is that TFC are close to signing Egyptian international Ibrahim Said (52 caps according to wikipedia) pending a medical and obtaining the necessary visas:-

http://msn.yallakora.com/english/news/Details.aspx?id=109409&Catid=1&region=

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=19726

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Said

Assuming this isn't a case of a trialist assuming he's made the team prior to showing what he can do in Florida it does appear to address one of the major gaps in the roster i.e. experience at centre half.

Meanwhile a goalkeeper from the Thunder Bay Chill has been invited to training camp:-

http://www.tbnewswatch.com/sports/Default.aspx?cid=78249

Stephen Paterson and Shaun Francis look like they might be moving on.

Paterson, rock solid in net for the Thunder Bay Chill, ... Paterson, a Thunder Bay goal keep who led the Chill to the Premier Development League championship in 2008, has been invited to play a series of exhibition games with the Toronto FC.

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'Heema' Said should come into the MLS and be considered one of the best CB in the league.

Attakora and Gomez now have someone to learn from. Serioux now can slide to the Fullback spot or midD.

If this transfer goes through then Mo is off to a good start to this offseason. Now cut Garcia and bring in a Right Winger/Right Mid, so that Cronin and Barrett can go back to their respected spots in MidD and Striker.

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I suspect this will be a Preki signing rather than a Mo Johnston one if it actually happens. May well be a player he had his eye on while still with Chivas. I think Preki was appointed quickly enough after the end of the season that he would have been able to have a major say when discovery claims started to be made for the upcoming season. If Preki rates Nana Attakora (the reason I utter that heresy in Voyageurs Board terms is that I question whether his distribution is good enough for a more possession oriented style at this point?) then maybe Serioux moves to right back where he played with FC Dallas and Marvel Wynne can potentially be traded for help elsewhere. Then the remaining major issue would be replacing Fellinga as the competition for Brennan on the left.

Edit: Turns out it's just a trial and no contract has been offered yet.

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2010/01/20/12546516-qmi.html

Toronto FC confirmed Wednesday that veteran Egyptian defender Ibrahim Saied has been offered a tryout. The defender was quoted on Egyptian websites stating that he had signed with the club and would go to the United States for a medical.

The club confirmed the defender has been offered a trial, not a contract. He is scheduled to join the team at its winter training camp base in Bradenton, Fla. in February.

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