Peter Schaad Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 http://www.uslsoccer.com/home/380020.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Key sentence where 2010 is concerned:- $B!H(BI was delighted to see so many potential new franchises at the meeting, with several of them prepared to play as early as 2010 and 2011,$B!I(B continued Rawlins. $B!H(BThere will be a transition moving forward, but the future is very bright from an expansion standpoint.$B!I(B That implies that some of them are not prepared to play as soon as 2010 and 2011. Given the dispute with the TOA breakaway faction any speculative expression of interest is liable to be talked up at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Has anyone from Edmonton or Ottawa heard anything about USL-1 expansion franchises yet? Last time I talked with the USL office, Ottawa and Calgary were their two choice Canadian markets. The article seemed more like a PR "invest in us we have potential :)" piece than a news article. They must realize the legitimacy of the league is taking a massive hit with the TOC battle their in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 As far as Ottawa, goes, there is absolutely no way that Frank Clair Stadium would be physically ready for USL-1 in the next five months. 2011 is doable, if the municipality can get their act together. 2012 is more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Cyrus As far as Ottawa, goes, there is absolutely no way that Frank Clair Stadium would be physically ready for USL-1 in the next five months. 2011 is doable, if the municipality can get their act together. 2012 is more likely. The stadium situations are pretty similar in Ottawa and Edmonton, both have a large, unsuitable stadium; a small soccer appropriate stadium; and a largely empty baseball stadium. What USL sees as the way forward, I'm not sure, but both would appear equally suitable destinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxl Boy Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Which are the “small soccer appropriate stadium” in each city ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Bxl Boy Which are the “small soccer appropriate stadium” in each city ? Edmonton Foote Field http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foote_Field or Clarke Stadium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke_Stadium Ottawa Keith Harris Stadium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Harris_Stadium Obviously, none of them has the necessary capacity now, and some have gridline problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalcity Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 "Amazing" "Sophisticated" "Prestigous" "Thrilled" "Magnificent" "Flagship" "International Affiliations" "Corporate Opportunities" "Fantastic" "Building Relationships" "New Era" "Tremendous Host"... ... maybe someone who uses this board has the data on USL expansion franchises for the last - say 5 years - and where are they now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 ^ Hit that nail on the head. I wonder which university's 2nd year marketing class they had write that piece for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxl Boy Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Probably the Marvelous Alice-in-Wonderland University of Pink and Glorious Superlatives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Regarding how odd it is that Portland is on the outside amongst the TOA looking in at an event held in Portland basically with Nike. You join MLS and you join Adidas, there is no choice. They are the exclusive partner in jerseys, you have no other option. So Nike has no future in MLS and that is not likely to change, Adidas will fight tooth and nails to keep their partnership with MLS alive and keep Nike out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Regarding how odd it is that Portland is on the outside amongst the TOA looking in at an event held in Portland basically with Nike. You join MLS and you join Adidas, there is no choice. They are the exclusive partner in jerseys, you have no other option. So Nike has no future in MLS and that is not likely to change, Adidas will fight tooth and nails to keep their partnership with MLS alive and keep Nike out. Unless Portland is the fly on the wall for the TOA? Maybe the owners drew straws and Portland lost? Yes the MLS=Adidas is written in stone so it doesn't make much sense to me other then the spy in their midst routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Really interesting points re: marketing and Portland's odd role here. They will be the team most disadvantaged geographically by the potential departure of the TOA clubs. Part of me wants the TOA to hold firm, because USL stands for U-sed Car S-alesmen L-eague. If they honestly believe they can bring in Detroit, Baltimore, Edmonton, and Ottawa in a year, and turn them into decent franchises...they're delusional. Every single season, another club is in trouble. This season it's Cleveland (because they were brought up against their will) and Rochester. I could see the whole thing collapsing next season given the USL"s track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 That is one of the TOA's beefs about the way the USL is run... no proper due dligence done on new franchise applicants with the result that teams collapse midseason leaving the schedule in disarray and showing the league and thus the remaining clubs in a really bad light. I just don't believe four new stable, well financed franchises with adequate stadiums can be whistled up between now and 2010 season kickoff. TOA has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Cyrus As far as Ottawa, goes, there is absolutely no way that Frank Clair Stadium would be physically ready for USL-1 in the next five months. 2011 is doable, if the municipality can get their act together. 2012 is more likely. The stadium surface.. field turf is fine, there are roughly 15,000 useable seats, and temporary stands on the south side lower deck can be erected in less then a week. So frankly your statments about stadia are wrong. Even if the Lansdowne live project is approved this month there wont be construction till late July 2010 or later, indeed the project will clearly be in phases. Now does that mean a USL 1 team application would be approved to the Ottawa Fury organisaton ? Probably yes, can they attract a creditable team to compete in a USL 1 with out a Montreal and Vancouver.. probably yes, would you invest 750,000 for a franchise fee and not have games against Montreal and Vancouver not likely. So any new pro teams in Canada need to be for 2010 playing in a league against Vancouver and Montreal as well as Voyageurs cup games. Frankly I dont see anyone with the cash and skill set to launch teams by 2010. USL 1 needs to make peace with the TOA or vice versa for the good of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Caca Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Somebody knows what happened to this: http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=268484&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_soccer ? Tiger-Cats owner, and TOA Carolina Railhawks co-owner, wanted to purchase a USL div. 1 franchise if he could get a new stadium. The 2015 Pan-Am games were awarded to Hamilton and the stadium will be build. http://www.thestar.com/sports/panamgames/article/722389--toronto-wins-2015-pan-am-games?bn=1 I was wondering what happened to the USL 1 plans? Did the recent TOA/USL dispute screwed them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigzTFC Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Well, the Carolina Railhawks owner is the lead in the TOA. I would have to think that if there is a new league, Hamilton would join that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Mr. Caca Somebody knows what happened to this: http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=268484&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_soccer ? Tiger-Cats owner, and TOA Carolina Railhawks co-owner, wanted to purchase a USL div. 1 franchise if he could get a new stadium. The 2015 Pan-Am games were awarded to Hamilton and the stadium will be build. http://www.thestar.com/sports/panamgames/article/722389--toronto-wins-2015-pan-am-games?bn=1 I was wondering what happened to the USL 1 plans? Did the recent TOA/USL dispute screwed them? It also means a separate 10K seat soccer stadium in Burlington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigzTFC Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Are there any pictures of the Burlington proposal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 quote:Originally posted by DigzTFC Are there any pictures of the Burlington proposal? http://www.canadian-soccer.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Ottawa Stadium was approved today. I heard 2013 mentioned, but 2012 or sooner is probably more realistic. It really doesn't matter when though, because soccer on football lines is like barfing in your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Vic Ottawa Stadium was approved today. I heard 2013 mentioned, but 2012 or sooner is probably more realistic. It really doesn't matter when though, because soccer on football lines is like barfing in your mouth. We don't know for sure if the field will have permanent football lines. Nevertheless, soccer on football lines is still better than no soccer at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 If they don't make the lines changeable from football to soccer then they are not serious about the soccer aspect because soccer on football lines is amateur at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Agree Richard. Never seen a reference to the Stadium without football markings and would rather watch lower level without lines. Wouldn't go watch football on a soccer field either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Vic Ottawa Stadium was approved today. I heard 2013 mentioned, but 2012 or sooner is probably more realistic. It really doesn't matter when though, because soccer on football lines is like barfing in your mouth. As opposed to what? Barfing into the mouth of someone else? Don't laugh. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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