Manuel Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I mentioned this one before, Jorge Andrade, and as CB is the biggest hole, I think this would be a good signing. Use Julian to help recruit him as they were teammates at Deportivo. He is still only 31. desperate to play again, so I think he would sign on the cheap. http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=goal-exdeportivolacorunadefender&prov=goal&type=lgns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlimus Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Let's help TFC and Toronto... fire Mo's red ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 ^ We know that's not happening. So we may as well try and make suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlimus Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 That's one way of looking at it. Another is that 95% of TFC's hardcore supporters want him gone. That same group probably constitutes 30% of TFC's fan base. So... let's make it happen. We have around 5 months until our next kickoff don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Two great strikers in Spain who might be ready for a change. Salva Ballesta, now in 2nd div Albacete, and Sergio García, who was in the Eurocup winning team, then with Zaragoza, is now in 2nd div with Betis, and if he doesn't promote with them could make a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlimus Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 He'll have to change that hair though... jajaja. Garcia would be more that a steal for Toronto, although I don't know about his attitude. The fact that Luis Aragonese picked him for the Spain 08 squad even after his side was relegated speaks to his quality though. I don't know anything about Ballesta. I don't visit any of the TFC supporters websites, but I don't know why fans on this forum section aren't looking for blood/change at the source of the problem here, Mo F ing Johnston. Great players don't always make great coaches, and they sure as hell don't make great GM's. Let the man's results speak for themselves. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think most of us are, and would prefer to see that happen, but we all know that it just isn't going to happen. I'm sorry, but every person in the south end could march on BMO, and it still wouldn't make a difference, it would just break down relations between the club and the supporters groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 If a coach like Steve Nicol or Preki were to be hired in the not too distant future the landscape might start to look very different. The 16 points lost in last 15 minutes stat suggests that the players were in place to achieve a significantly better end of season outcome if better tactics had been deployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Tuscan I think most of us are, and would prefer to see that happen, but we all know that it just isn't going to happen. I'm sorry, but every person in the south end could march on BMO, and it still wouldn't make a difference, it would just break down relations between the club and the supporters groups. Break down relations ? What a odd idea that you have to shut up and take it up your Royal Canadian Arse, because it would just break down relations, supporters groups are independent for a reason, and worrying about broken relationships with the bean counters well gosh... lets just all sing Kumbyah.... Seriously Tuscan you thing people who pay good money for tickets and put their hearts into supporting their team, dont get a right to march and complain or march and celebrate, cause thats really where your going with your comment, the absolutly best thing for TFC is to have a fully engaged, loud and independent supportters group. Just like the very best thing for the CSA is to have a loud engaged, and enraged supporters group for our National teams, if the Voyageurs had not exsisted you would have no V-Cup likely no CCL entry by a Canadian team, and arguably no pressure on the CSA to clean its still very rotten house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAS Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard If a coach like Steve Nicol or Preki were to be hired in the not too distant future the landscape might start to look very different. The 16 points lost in last 15 minutes stat suggests that the players were in place to achieve a significantly better end of season outcome if better tactics had been deployed. I agree. There is a limit to what a club can do to attract new players without the new coach in place. The expansion draft is a possible opportunity for Trader Mo to swing a deal inside MLS, and the lack of a coach is irrelevent to the draft, but signing free agents of any merit will be difficult without the coach already being in place. Honestly, I wouldn't even bother trying just yet. There is no CBA in place, so we don't know what the rules about free agency or roster sizes will be, or the salary cap. A new coach of any quality and self-respect will want input into new players just as new players will want to know who they will be dealing with. What Mo should be doing right now - besides sending love letters to Steve Nicol - is try to dump the underperformers and the so-called trouble makers on the team. He can either not re-sign them, make them available to Philadelphia in the expansion draft, or try to trade them for draft picks and allocation. If he can acquire a great deal of cap space, picks and allocation, then he can entice a good coach to come over with the chance to rebuild the team in the manner which the new coach desires. This assumes that Mo would let a new coach have more input then Carver and Cummings had. If Mo can make trades inside MLS to strengthen our defence (how about Hainault or Jakovic) then that's fine, but signing new players from abroad without a new coach in place and offering input would be extremely stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 The only way I like to help Mo is by showing him the way out of Toronto avoiding all the Pubs and Bars on his way to the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 The only thing he should be signing is a letter of resignation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Nope, we should all sit back with smiles on our faces, not complaining when things don't go right, maintaining an awkward complacency as happy followers. Kumbaya, m'lord, Kumbaya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Tuscan Nope, we should all sit back with smiles on our faces, not complaining when things don't go right, maintaining an awkward complacency as happy followers. Hey, why brake a tradition that Toronto sporting culture is so proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlimus Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 ^^^^ It's so f ing frustrating.... The TFC supporters should try and break this trend. Does anyone have any stats or figures relating the richest franchises or parent companies to the titles won or just flat out success? MLSE has to be one of the richest in North America and they haven't won a title in what? 45 years right? The only major team we have in Toronto that isn't theirs can even manage a better record than that, although I'd rather be a loser than watch baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 What is the relevance of problems in other sports where there is no hard salary cap and single entity ownership to TFC? In the past two years MLSE have purchased Gol TV, agreed to pay for the installation of grass and have agreed to the signing of a DP. The commitment level is clearly there and they are not adopting an approach like the Krafts in New England who run their team on as low a budget as possible and let the other ownership groups make the lion's share of the effort when it comes to fostering the growth of the league and the sport. It would have been easy to use the three first round picks that were available in the 2009 superdraft to make short-term trades to boost the chances of getting into the playoffs this season but a longer term vision was in place. By next season is Stefan Frei going to be a bigger asset for TFC than Brian McBride for Chicago and is Sam Cronin going to be a better asset for TFC than Ronnie O'Brien for San Jose and can O'Brien White be expected to make more of an impact now he is fully recovered from injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 quote:Originally posted by KAS If Mo can make trades inside MLS to strengthen our defence (how about Hainault or Jakovic) then that's fine, but signing new players from abroad without a new coach in place and offering input would be extremely stupid. That will be tough. Not sure about Hainault's value to Houston but he looks good everytime i've seen him play. No much for going forward, but he's 100% rock defensively. That's pretty hard to move in MLS terms. Jakovic is exactly what we need, but probably won't be getting anytime soon. As far as DC United is goes, he's untradable. He's holding down the centre of a 3-5-2 and he's great on the ball for a CB. They've been struggling with defenders for a while, i doubt they'd give up the only consistantly good one they've got. First stop should be PR Islanders for Cristian Arrieta who is similar to Hainault. End the pipe dream of Marvell Wynn being a starter on a team that can be defensively responsible. Colin Clarke might be a good idea also (some brits can coach;) ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard If a coach like Steve Nicol or Preki were to be hired in the not too distant future the landscape might start to look very different. The 16 points lost in last 15 minutes stat suggests that the players were in place to achieve a significantly better end of season outcome if better tactics had been deployed. 100% agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard What is the relevance of problems in other sports where there is no hard salary cap and single entity ownership to TFC? In the past two years MLSE have purchased Gol TV, agreed to pay for the installation of grass and have agreed to the signing of a DP. The commitment level is clearly there and they are not adopting an approach like the Krafts in New England who run their team on as low a budget as possible and let the other ownership groups make the lion's share of the effort when it comes to fostering the growth of the league and the sport. It would have been easy to use the three first round picks that were available in the 2009 superdraft to make short-term trades to boost the chances of getting into the playoffs this season but a longer term vision was in place. By next season is Stefan Frei going to be a bigger asset for TFC than Brian McBride for Chicago and is Sam Cronin going to be a better asset for TFC than Ronnie O'Brien for San Jose and can O'Brien White be expected to make more of an impact now he is fully recovered from injury? 100% agreed again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Is Kevin Mckenna available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAS Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Macksam Is Kevin Mckenna available? 1) He is with Koln in the Bundesliga - and playing 2) He's not from the GTA like TFC's Canadians 3) If I remember correctly, his annual salary was 800K Euros So, I will go with "NO" for now. Hainault and Jakovic are much younger/cheaper and because they are playing in MLS, it would be easier to acquire them through a trade involving players, allocation, and draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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