MM2 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 In the first leg Trois Rivieres/ Italia Shooters 3-3 http://www.attakfc.com/index.php?option=com_joomleague&func=showReport&p=3&mid=362&Itemid=21 Serbian White Eagles 3 Toronto Croatia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Result of the Sunday October 11, 2009 CSL game between Toronto Croatia and Serbian White Eagles played at Centennial Stadium in Etobicoke at 4:00pm. This was the first leg of the two-game Semi-Final. 6 min…White Eagles Jonathan Hurtis GOAL…SWE Sasa Viciknez cornerkick from right has ball drop in box. Hurtis kicks in 5 yarder to left side of goal behind Croatia defender Ainsley Deer who tries to hook ball away while guarding left post. 56 min…Croatia Antonio Zupan GOAL…Croatia Marko Bedenkovic cornerkick from left has Croatia Ante Brkic head ball across box from 6 yards on right and charging Zupan near left post heads ball in from 5 yards into right side of net beyond goalie Dan Pelc. 68 min…White Eagles Kiril Dimitrov GOAL…SWE Sasa Viciknez low cross from left from 35 yards has SWE Jonathan Hurtis in middle miss getting to play ball and Dimitrov on right side gets ball and shoots low 20 yard shot to left side of net beyond diving goalie Sandi Matika. 81 min…White Eagles Jonathan Hurtis GOAL…SWE Kiril Dimitrov low cross from 25 yards on right has Hurtis blast low 18 yard shot into low left corner of net. Final Score:…Toronto Croatia……….1…………Serbian White Eagles…………3……… Attendance was around 500 according to photographer Tony Pavia with the crowd divided up according to him at 70% Serbian and 30% Croatia fans. Official attendance was announced at 475. The weather was cold with a strong wind from the north. Some of the players besides the goalies wore gloves. Parkas were required for anyone outside. Rival fans were separated by two pieces of a string rope running from garbage cans in the front row to the fence at the stop of the stands with pieces of duct tape as highlights so people could see. I’m sure the seven police officers were a more important reason that fans remained calm. Referee Yusri Rudolf had a quiet game with not a lot of rough play between the two traditional rival teams. The line officials were flagging White Eagle rushes offside. I thought there were about four in a row within three minutes around the 30 minute mark. White Eagles were able to break through the defenders in the second half. Croatia had a very short bench with only four* players listed as substitutes including a goalie. Semi-retired player/manager Tom Granic was one of those pressed into service. From a Croatian official I talked to, offensive threats Tommy Ples is injured, and Johnathan Bustamante is serving a two game suspension but would be back for the final if they get that far. Midfielder Hayden Fitzwilliams had to move up as a striker. Croatia wasn’t much of a threat on goalie Dan Pelc for long periods of this game. White Eagles rotated players into the game in the second half to always have fresh players throughout the 90 minutes (seven subs allowed in this league although one is a goalie). *actually Niko Pesa was a late write-in on their roster bringing their list up to five. White Eagles have now won four games in a row since making coaching changes in time for the Sunday September 20th final regular season game against Toronto Croatia which was a 2-1 result. They’ve since won both quarterfinal playoff games against TFC Academy and today’s semifinal game. Head coach Dubko Prijic and assistant coach Kosta Stanojevic replaced Rafael Carbajal and Paolo Pacione after White Eagles were held to a 0-0 tie against Italia Shooters and had lost two road games immediately prior to that. This game was taped for rebroadcast on Rogers Community channel later in the day. Rogers did not broadcast yesterday afternoon’s other semi-final in Maple between Italia Shooters and Trois-Rivieres Attak that ended in a 3-3 tie. The commentators don’t get enough ‘background’ and so therefore sound clueless about why Croatia was playing so poorly. I thought I’d try to help at halftime by filling them in about the short bench but waited too long as they were just cutting back from commercials. This was a home game for Toronto Croatia as the first of a two game series. The return game will be played at Centennial Stadium on Saturday October 17th and Croatia must be glad that each game is counted as three points in the series rather than being a total goal series with them forced to come back from a two goal deficit. If Croatia wins that game, there will be a half hour mini game and if that is tied, a penalty shootout. Because of the immediate renovations undergoing at Lamport Stadium—that is the installation of an all weather bubble over the field, the final on October 24th will be played at BMO Field! The MLS Toronto FC will be in New York that weekend. Hey Canada’s only ‘national’ league will play at Canada’s national stadium. I’ll expect they will restrict fans to about one section of the stadium to make clean up earlier. Also I can’t see tickets being more than $12 because they’ve been pre-selling tickets for about a month now. I will miss the return leg of the series like I did yesterday’s game because TFC is finishing off their regular season schedule with home game each Saturday. I’ll look forward to the final. Rocket Robin robing@eol.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 quote:Originally posted by MM2 In the first leg Trois Rivieres/ Italia Shooters 3-3 http://www.attakfc.com/index.php?option=com_joomleague&func=showReport&p=3&mid=362&Itemid=21 Serbian White Eagles 3 Toronto Croatia 1 Why wasn't Agourram dressed? Was he hurt in Lebanon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 My guess is jet lag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PescaraBiancazzuri Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Serbian White Eagles - Toronto Croatia 1:7 Then in overtime Serbians White Eagles score one goal for 1:0 and advance to the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 That is the craziest scoreline. Did SWE just sleepwalk through the first 90 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 That is the craziest scoreline. Did SWE just sleepwalk through the first 90 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 LOL this must be the biggest joke ever! a team loses 7-1 in a playoff game and still make it to the final? after this the CSL should be given a new status, forget professional or amateur let's just call it the PRACTICAL JOKES LEAGUE How about using FIFA rules next time guys? was this a collective stupid decision by the owners or an other incoherent brilliant idea by the commissioner, like the one about having an International Division? I know I know.... who needs FIFA rules in North America anyway, just continue to be the laughing stock in Canada. All the league needs now is the team made of affiliated players to win season to complete the joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasup Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Only in Canada does this happen , and I repeat only here in CANADA , sorry in the CSL . How could a team lose 7-1 and make it. So really they lost 7-2 but still qualified . BULL**** !!! This should be in FIFA news not the article about the player from Trois rives , but this . Could you imagine all the people in the world reading this . "CSL team loses 7-2 but still qualifis for the Finals " What a joke . Then we want to be taken seriously !!!! Not with this **** . It should of been two games goal aggreagate Like it is all over the WORLD !!! When you have two games it is because the goals count , if not then you would play a third game not another half Hour . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 It's the CSA fault for sanctioning this bush league, I hope next year this bush league does not get sanctioned by the CSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 quote:Originally posted by SoccMan It's the CSA fault for sanctioning this bush league, I hope next year this bush league does not get sanctioned by the CSA. I think you need to check out just who sanctioned the league, I understand the OSA is the responsible body until the end of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I fail to see the problem. The rules were simple. Two 3pt games, one 30 minute overtime if tied. How does that make it "bush" or "bull" or whatever? Because it wasn't FIFA format? Who cares? Happens in hockey, basketball, baseball, etc. It actually sounds like an interesting format. Maybe next year they can go to a FIFA Voyageurs Cup format. That makes everyone around here happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasup Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Vic !! Thats the problem this is not hockey,Basketball or Baseball, this is FUTBOL,CALCIO or as you would call it Soccer . Yes Croatia knew the rule . My arguement is that , in any country in the world , where soccer is taken seriously , this rule or format would not be used . Croatia wins the 2 game total agregate 8-5 . The CSA or OSA sanctioned the league ? Or they santioned the 2 or 3 rediculous owners who make these stupid formats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Vic I fail to see the problem. The rules were simple. Two 3pt games, one 30 minute overtime if tied. How does that make it "bush" or "bull" or whatever? Because it wasn't FIFA format? Who cares? Happens in hockey, basketball, baseball, etc. It actually sounds like an interesting format. Maybe next year they can go to a FIFA Voyageurs Cup format. That makes everyone around here happy. Great!..... now we're comparing soccer to real sports. I though this was a soccer forum. Wait, this is Canada and soccer is a amateur sport where FIFA rules don't apply, I almost forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 Now back to the action on the field Attak 2 Italia 1 http://www.attakfc.com/index.php?option=com_joomleague&func=showReport&p=3&mid=364&Itemid=21 TR Attak vs White Eagles in the final at BMO field 5PM Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The teams knew the rules before the round started. That the first game was White Eagles winning 3-1 may have changed the Croatia strategy as the third goal they let in was at 81 minutes. Knowing that a loss is a loss, they'd do anything but pull the goalie rather then building a wall and making sure to hold their loss to 2-1. In the reverse fixture (I was at the MLS Toronto FC game on Saturday), White Eagles let in four goals in the second half while scoring only once. I'd ask league officials at the opening press conference why they'd go with a two game final and the answer was to give each team a home gate and the reason for a hockey style scoring system of win 1, lose 1 means overtime was back in 2007 where a two game final with goals counting for tie breaking was that after the first game had Toronto Croatia win 4-1 over White Eagles, the second game drew something like 100 fans because the result was easy to predict. (the second game was the White Eagles 'home' game and regular crowds back then it should have been 500 at least). Result was a 0-0 draw. I'm not saying the system is right but if agreed on at the beginning of the year, better to play it out that way than change with one week to go. Didn't FIFA suddenly change the rules of the World Cup qualifying in Europe so 'popular' teams like France and Portugal would avoid each other? I'm looking forward to the final (one game only). The league gets a break as they showcase at BMO Field rather than the suddenly 'in renovation for the bublle' Lamport Stadium. The league had a lot of trouble in Toronto this season with a one month civic workers strike resulting in a lot of changed venues and even before that a field problem with Centennial Stadium where the turf was still being installed by contractors and it wasn't done in time for the first weekend and then weeks later until seats were actually installed. This was a real turn off for fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 FIFA rules? You mean a random skill contest like penalty kicks to decide world champion? Yeah, there's a great idea. Knock yourself out and call them "real sports" all you want, but the Stanley Cup, the NBA Title, the World Series, the Super Bowl - they all play until there's a winner, not who can skate a lap balancing a puck on their head or flip a basketball into a toaster from across the court blindfolded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Rocket Robin I'd ask league officials at the opening press conference why they'd go with a two game final and the answer was to give each team a home gate and the reason for a hockey style scoring system of win 1, lose 1 means overtime was back in 2007 where a two game final with goals counting for tie breaking was that after the first game had Toronto Croatia win 4-1 over White Eagles, the second game drew something like 100 fans because the result was easy to predict. (the second game was the White Eagles 'home' game and regular crowds back then it should have been 500 at least). Result was a 0-0 draw. I'm not saying the system is right but if agreed on at the beginning of the year, better to play it out that way than change with one week to go. Didn't FIFA suddenly change the rules of the World Cup qualifying in Europe so 'popular' teams like France and Portugal would avoid each other? I'm just going to refer to the highlighted. 1. The only reason why they used a hockey style scoring system in 2007, is simply because the commissioner is a hockey person and he doesn't know any better. 2. It's not true that the second game drew something like 100 fans, I was there and there were not less then 400 fans in the stands, I didn't see you in that game Robin and I checked your reports and you have no info from that game other than the regular CSL media release. Here is the link http://22066.vws.magma.ca/07csl163.htm so please don't make up stories. Those two games were based on aggregate scoring, that's why the SWE fans went to see the game hoping for a miracle, but they did showed up. 3. Football is a business and FIFA used commonsense to make that decision, something that CSL never does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Vic FIFA rules? You mean a random skill contest like penalty kicks to decide world champion? Yeah, there's a great idea. Knock yourself out and call them "real sports" all you want, but the Stanley Cup, the NBA Title, the World Series, the Super Bowl - they all play until there's a winner, not who can skate a lap balancing a puck on their head or flip a basketball into a toaster from across the court blindfolded. So, you want FIFA to extend the world cup to play an additional game? I don't think TV would accept any sudden changes unless they collect the revenue. I don't think that would work now, I think they did many years ago but TV corporations were not the rulers of the world cup tournaments as they are now. I agree with you in regards to a third game though, that without a doubt will show the best team. The CSL has no big crowds anyway and they should have planned for a third game, maybe that could have been the game drawing a good number of fans. But as I said before to make those desitions you need to use commonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I remember the rational given to me for a two game final (changed with little lead time) was they wanted to keep the Croatian and Serb fans separated and because they only had Esther Shiner Stadium available which had all seats on the north side. Each side would have control of who they sold tickets to. I remember missing the second game that evening because I was at Sunnybrook hospital waiting for my mother to die. I only heard about the game second hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I'm sorry Robin for bringing this up, specially when you're mentioning why you missed that game but I knew you missed the game. There are far too many reports here and in the CSL website, based on second hand information, including the ones done by Stan Adamson. The problem is that 5 out of 10 times those reports are distorted and misguiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknBlue Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Rocket Robin I remember the rational given to me for a two game final (changed with little lead time) was they wanted to keep the Croatian and Serb fans separated and because they only had Esther Shiner Stadium available which had all seats on the north side. Each side would have control of who they sold tickets to. I remember missing the second game that evening because I was at Sunnybrook hospital waiting for my mother to die. I only heard about the game second hand. Oh wow - Did you actually go for the "guilt trip"?! HA! You look to be around 50 years old and you're still going for the "ooohh, pity me" and "guilt trip" like a sissy, teenage girl. My son knows better than that, and he's 8. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.T. Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BlacknBlue Oh wow - Did you actually go for the "guilt trip"?! HA! You look to be around 50 years old and you're still going for the "ooohh, pity me" and "guilt trip" like a sissy, teenage girl. My son knows better than that, and he's 8. Wow. 3 posts and they've all attacked RR. Can a mod please ban this pathetic, piece of shit excuse of a human being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Agreed. Most disturbing and disgusting post I have ever seen on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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