loyola Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 So, we'll have a USL final involving MTL and Vancouver! Nice stuff and to be honest a bit surprising considering their early form this season. Please discuss everything related to the pre-game here. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 In the "lets humour our mod" category here we go #1 - Both teams in the final are Canadian! #2 - Both games will be played on GRASS! #3 - Both games have decent video camera placements! God is PR's placement bad. Maybe it is just the logistics of televising soccer from a baseball park but the Timbers manage. Every game I've seen in PR is the same bad camera, comatose play by play and inaudible crowd. #4 - One final chance for the Caps to exact their revenge on Montreal (I'm over it now but I'm glad we get one more shot at them!). #5 - One more game each for the clubs to sell out and make some extra cash at! I'm looking forward to it and I predict the Caps win both games. [}] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 In the "lets humour our mod" category here we go #1 - Both teams in the final are Canadian! #2 - Both games will be played on GRASS! #3 - Both games have decent video camera placements! God is PR's placement bad. Maybe it is just the logistics of televising soccer from a baseball park but the Timbers manage. Every game I've seen in PR is the same bad camera, comatose play by play and inaudible crowd. #4 - One final chance for the Caps to exact their revenge on Montreal (I'm over it now but I'm glad we get one more shot at them!). #5 - One more game each for the clubs to sell out and make some extra cash at! I'm looking forward to it and I predict the Caps win both games. [}] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Called both for the final last week and calling Caps for the win, doesn't really matter who wins though, having both teams there is as good as it gets. I hope both coaches and organizations instruct their people to squash the b.s. and just make it about a celebration of great soccer and the best performance, not the drama and horsecr*p that little girls teams get caught up in. Go CANADA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Wow. Quite the finish this year. Bonus it's Canadian clubs but regardless, quite the finish to the Div 1 season. Honestly, I think Vancouver matches up very well against Montreal. Nolly can be flaky but to my mind, Vancouver has more flexibility than the Impact (going forward) and at the end of the day that may prove the difference. Both Nash & Haber very influential today. Haber ghosts in and out of matches but does the business. If those two perform in the finals as they have in against Portland my money is on the 'Caps winning their 2nd straight 1st Division Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Only thing that could top this is if the Caps and TFC manage to meet in the MLS Cup down the road. You can add Montreal in either's place once they get in too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the biologist Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by loyola (MOD) I'll lock this topic and start another thread about this subject. BTW, the first poster who took this subject seriously (rightly so IMO considering Trilium posting history) isn't a TFC fan from what I know. Just thought the biologist should take note of that. (MOD) Hey, sorry if I offended any TFC fan... NOT ! [] No, seriously this time, really. I respect you loyola as you're by far the guy who knows best about soccer, the V's and this board in general between us two, hats off to you, sincerely. I also know that as a MOD you're trying to keep any potential bitching thread between us away from this board, that's not vain and I'm obviously OK with this, you're doing an ungrateful job that I wouldn't even think a second I could do. That being said (après les fleurs, le pot comme on dit au Québec ), I think you fell in the trap I opened. I actually took note of jono's post and didn't respond to it cause I agreed with him: quote:Originally posted by jonovision Couldn't you celebrate this fact without so clearly baiting the TFC fans? I don't want this thread to degenerate, because there's so much to talk about with these two teams. Then, Rudi's post (who I not always agree with ) was right on the spot with his reply about Trillium's post:quote:Originally posted by Rudi You have to admire his dedication. Or something. That could have been over by then. But no, michaeltfc91 posted this: quote:Originally posted by michaeltfc91 I thought the Canadian Champioship determined the best team in Canada. If I recall Toronto FC won it meaning they are the best team in Canada. I couldn't resist to this (maybe I slightly generalized a bit too much in my response but hey, isn't this board also about growing the rivalries between our soccer clubs so it could look like a Habs-Leafs rivalry with all the goods and bads that goes with it ?) so I kinda Rudi-reacted to this (no offense to you Rudi, I sincerely like your intensity [^] ) I don't believe bullying posts to be sincerely thought by the poster each and every time. For this matter, if I killed every Leafs fan I blatantly provoked and wanted dead during my childhood, there wouldn't be one left to cheer for them at the ACC. When TFC won the Voyageurs Cup, there were bunch of TFC fans bullying us and that's 100% OK as I did the same last year. All we could do was to defend and find something we were better at. Now it's our time since TFC's playoffs hopes are in jeopardy. I have no problems at all with posts like Trillium's or michaeltfc91's, THAT IS PART OF THE GAME as long as we don't insult each other directly like... well you know'em better than I do. For those of you who find this childish, well just contribute in a way you think is better, that's up to y'all. Bottom point is, I agree we should only talk about Impact vs Caps in this thread. But if some TFC fan gets baited and someone like me respond to him in baiting fashion again (Rudi replied after all and that's fine since it's just a game), I think this just isn't a good enough reason to lock a thread. A simple anti-TFC-bashing warning could have been enough IMO. But that's just my opinion and I respect yours to lock the previous thread, you're the coach after all and I'm just a player ! (it's up to you to find the way I intended to use the word [] ) quote:Originally posted by Rudi On topic, go 'Caps! C'mon, MTL gave TO the Canadian Championship title, it's payback time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlimus Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 As a TFC fan (although more importantly a Canadian soccer fan and devoted Voyageur), I couldn't be happier to see a Caps-Impact final. Congrats to you both, and may the best team win. I also hope that you both fill up the stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I concur with earlimus, as a Canadian soccer fan I think this is great for the sport. As most of you already know, I own season tickets with all 3 Canadian teams and this is an awsome match up. Since some of you have already messaged me with regards to my tickets, I'm planning on attending both games so i don't know how many extras I will have. (Vancouver flight booked this morning, debating to either fly or take the train to Montreal). I will keep you posted if I have extras but encourage everyone to pick up some tickets if they can so they don't miss out. In the meantime, what events are planned before each of the matches? Surely both team supporters groups would have some great pre-game events planned for their respective home games? And for the record, I'll be wearing my 'national' team jersey at both games, and will remain neutral rooting for some high calibre quality games. May the best team win and may Canadian soccer win. quote:Originally posted by earlimus As a TFC fan (although more importantly a Canadian soccer fan and devoted Voyageur), I couldn't be happier to see a Caps-Impact final. Congrats to you both, and may the best team win. I also hope that you both fill up the stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerfanatiQ Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Don't want to brag about it ,but Montreal just beaten the club that TFC couldn't ,with the the top players they have. Humm I think it's called overconfidence. Congrats to Vancouver! The game in Portland was one of the best USL game this year. Two Canadian team , hope CBC will do something about it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Congrats to the reasonable fan base of both Canadian teams for reaching the USL-1 final. I find it funny that 2 Impact fans felt the need to mention TFC in this thread. LOL! You can keep comparing, but our soccer dicks are bigger than yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 (MOD) The Biologist, I locked the thread because it was a clear attempt to bait and it had nothing to do with the subject. I thought it was a poor start for a discussion and could lead to some bitching with the fans of a club who isn't involve in this final. Your post and Rudi's post had nothing to do in my decision, it was the purpose of the original poster that was sanctionned and let's please leave the MTL vs TFC, TFC vs PR, MTL vs RP, TFC vs RP, VAN vs TFC talks aside. It should be all about MTL vs VAN, which should be a great game for Canadian soccer fans. If you feel the need to discuss this further, please contact me or any other mods via PM.(MOD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by loyola (MOD) The Biologist, I locked the thread because it was a clear attempt to bait and it had nothing to do with the subject. I thought it was a poor start for a discussion and could lead to some bitching with the fans of a club who isn't involve in this final. Your post and Rudi's post had nothing to do in my decision, it was the purpose of the original poster that was sanctionned and let's please leave the MTL vs TFC, TFC vs PR, MTL vs RP, TFC vs RP, VAN vs TFC talks aside. It should be all about MTL vs VAN, which should be a great game for Canadian soccer fans. If you feel the need to discuss this further, please contact me or any other mods via PM.(MOD) So you sanctioned my purpose ? Get serious my post said PR defeated TFC ..thats a fact. I concluded the two best professional teams in Canada are in the final..thats a reasonable conclusion to draw from there seasons. You locked the thread because your acting on your personal conclusion not based what was before you .. your the moderator, your sandbox. If you feel any reference to TFC that would bait TFC fans is not appropriate then put it in your guidelines, if you think reference to TFC in any thread other then TFC MLS, then put it in your guidelines. And by the way if I was wanting to bait the TFC fans, I would have said something quite different and supported it with facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Impact fans should be proud that their team managed to overcome a team that had previously themselves beaten TFC out of a tournament. It's a valid measuring stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltfc91 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 All I did was disagree with Trillium and said TFC was the best team in Canada. I didn't insult any one nor wanted to start anything. I said this because I wanted the topic to be accurate. I apologize for taking it off topic partly. On this topic, I watched the Vancouver game and was extremely happy when they won because I want all Canadian teams to do well. I like Montreal and Vancouver in USL 1, not in the Canadian Championship because my team is Toronto FC. In any case, good luck to both clubs and I'm proud that the Canadian teams are doing great in the USL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 (MOD) If you want to analyze the reason why MTL did succeed against PR and why TFC didn't you are free to post your opinion in the MTL vs PR threads. I have no problem with that whatsoever. But if you are going to start a thread about a final involving 2 USL teams by trying to bait the fans from a third team who isn't in the USL and not at all involve in that final, I think you are trying to provoke. Trillium, here's rule 1.2 from our guidelines quote:1.2. As this board is unique in that it is a meeting place for fans of rival teams, constant provocation of fans of rival teams should be avoided. I thought you cross that line and others posters perceived it that way. Now, let's get back to the subject of the final between MTL and Vancouver. Further comments should be sent to me, or any other mods, privately. Thanks! (MOD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Congratulations to Vancouver and Montreal! After Vancouver's disappointment at the Voyageurs Cup and Montreal's disruptive start in the season, both teams have shown some intensity in eliminating their semi-final opponents as underdogs. Now which team should I cheer for? I have good friends in both cities and have cheered for either team in the past ... :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Moderating on this board is hypersensitive in favour of TFC, who couldn't possibly be benefited by that kind of treatment. By this kid glove treatment of TFC fans all you are doing is implicitly suggesting they are delicate and weak. So you are effectively insulting them under the pretext of defending them. Whoever needs to get defended most by the mods obviously should be given the status of weaklings in the herd. All you have to look at the threads started to insult and bait Vancouver when we were awarded the MLS franchise, featuring focussing on Evil Bert and anything else as peripheral as possible and usually started by a non-Vancouverite, to understand how terribly slanted the moderating on this board has been. If Vancouver threads at that time had been cleaned out by locking out baiting posters with the same zeal back then about half this board would have had it happen to them. Montreal winning over PR in two legs and TFC failing miserably definitely is a legitimate discussion point on this thread, a perfectly legit point of comparison. As is Portland claiming top spot in the league and most honours but falling in the playoffs. As is: I have forgotten the shame of 1-6 and am over it, but justice will be served despite my spirit of forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Moderating on this board is hypersensitive in favour of TFC, who couldn't possibly be benefited by that kind of treatment. By this kid glove treatment of TFC fans all you are doing is implicitly suggesting they are delicate and weak. So you are effectively insulting them under the pretext of defending them. Whoever needs to get defended most by the mods obviously should be given the status of weaklings in the herd. All you have to look at the threads started to insult and bait Vancouver when we were awarded the MLS franchise, featuring focussing on Evil Bert and anything else as peripheral as possible and usually started by a non-Vancouverite, to understand how terribly slanted the moderating on this board has been. If Vancouver threads at that time had been cleaned out by locking out baiting posters with the same zeal back then about half this board would have had it happen to them. Montreal winning over PR in two legs and TFC failing miserably definitely is a legitimate discussion point on this thread, a perfectly legit point of comparison. As is Portland claiming top spot in the league and most honours but falling in the playoffs. As is: I have forgotten the shame of 1-6 and am over it, but justice will be served despite my spirit of forgiveness. (MOD)Why do you feel the need to bring stuff (Evil Bert) that happened when the new mods weren't acting and the guidelines not in function? Are you going to blame us for stuff that happened on the Network54 forum? Like I've said in my previous post, I felt it was a clear attempt at baiting and not an attempt at a discussion. I thought the resulting comments by Jonovision and a few others were an indication of that and I didn't want the thread to be hijack by a TFC vs PR vs MTL vs Van bitching party. No way I'm going to censor everything negative comments toward a club (that's why we let the Cup presentation thread live last week) but pure provocation should be avoid. Anyways, I'll the one who feel the need to discuss this topic in the appropriate forum (Help & Suggestions) as I'm aware that it's a sensitive and new topic here (section 1.2 of the Guidelines). Comments about the moderators decisions should be made there to avoid threadjacking. Thanks. (MOD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Robert Finally! The time has come for the Whitecaps to adminster some justice on those lame French dogs. But I don't understand! Only Joqueviel is French, and he's quite recovered from his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 ^ So you think I should cheer for the Caps, eh Robert? This will be a great Canadian/USL-1 match-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 loyola, you are totally right, and I know it. I am just being cranky since Barça is leader, the Whitecaps are in the final and I own my own home. Damn live tv broadcast going to make it hard to follow from here, hope some solution comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Robert Let me clarify. Anyone who eats or buys a SAPUTO product is a lame French dog! But I don't understand! They're mostly Italian humans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Lighten up on the anti-French stuff, Robert. We'll see on the pitch if Vancouver can avenge their V-Cup experience. A few months ago, I would have been surprised to see either team making the playoffs, let alone meeting in the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Where do the Montreal hardcore supporters stand on Marc dos Santos now? Has this playoff run erased some of his mistakes from earlier in the season? Should he be around for next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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