squid2 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA I'm curious as to what the actual stats look like. Shame we can't actually see them ourselves. Its an impressive report. Often presented in Excel spreadsheets, graphs, and pie charts. I have a copy of 2 reports that enterfaced with SportsCode and Athletic Logic - one is CCC the other MLS (not TFC) neither from 2009 and both remain interesting reads. And for the sake of clarity, I have never had in my possession a TFC generated ProZone report. But I have seen and read a ProZone scouting report (current season) on TFC. It's not flattering. But here's a portion of what kind of data is captured. Its very flexible and can be very detailed. Attacking Anaylisis Typical Categories: Average Minutes played Shots Shots on target Goals Crosses Corners taken Free kicks taken Final third entries Penalty area entries Tackled Fouled Possession lost Offsides Defensive Analysis Typical Categories: Average Minutes played Tackles Interceptions Blocks Clearances Headers Fouls Fouls [defensive third] Possession won Corner conceded Yellow Cards Red Cards Distribution Anaylsis Typical Categories: Average Minutes played Attempted passes Pass success rate % Forwards passes % Successful Sideways passes % Successful Backwards passes % Successful Short passes Medium passes Long passes First time passes % Successful Headers % Successful Balls received Number of touches Number of possessions Average touches Ave.time in possession Possession won Possession lost Individsual Player Movement Profile Typical Categories: Physical Analysis Total distance covered (km) No. of high intensity (HI) activities HI distance covered (km) No. of high speed runs (HSR) HSR distance covered (km) Forwards pasNseos. Sprints Sprint distance covered (km) HI distance- with possession (km) HI distance- without possesion (km) HI distance- ball out of play (km) Average recovery time (sec) Walking time - Walking Steps - Walking Distance Jogging Zonal Analysis Typical Categories: - Balls Rec'd, Passes to, Passes From Possession grids Distribution Tables Individual Typical Categories: Individual vs Individual (same team) Individual vs Individual same position opposing team Possession won & lost and in which Zone Time in Possession then there's functional play... Attacking Overview Individual Team Typical Categories: Goals Number of Passes prior to goals scored Total Number of Shots Shooting Accuracy Final Third Entries Penalty Area Entries Total Corners Crosses Offsides Analysis can include team vs team and / or league wide. I've also read that the analysis can include from 1 league to another league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by squid2 But I have seen and read a ProZone scouting report (current season) on TFC. It's not flattering. Thanks for the info. A scouting report on TFC? Does it include Don Revie-style dossier player assessments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squid2 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA Thanks for the info. A scouting report on TFC? Does it include Don Revie-style dossier player assessments? Two comments from the report do stand out. Both from the section titled, "Corner Kicks", as best as I can recall... 1st comment ... ..., "not to be confused with the notion that perhaps 3 out of every 4 Guevara corners is Guevara just putting the ball back in play and enabling any TFC player to react to the incoming service". 2nd comment ... "Regardless, do not underestimate the lack of sophistication or structure within TFC's corners, as any corner kick is a threat to our defensive scheme." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 DC United's loss to the Earthquakes, who came back for a 1-2, makes the Fire tie a good result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 quote:Originally posted by squid2 Cummins still can't make sence of all the square pegs and the round holes. Complicated and compounded by the fact that others around him are equally inept: Goalkeeper Coach Toshack - Frei's weakness becomes more pronounced as opponents continue to expose it each week. Strength and Conditioning Coach Paul Winsper - TFC's final 15 minutes is terrible, statistics don't lie; neither does the injury list. Video Analyst Eddie Kehoe - ProZone is too advanced for him, so is modern day technology. TFC clearly not as prepared for opponents as opponents are for TFC. Of those three criticisms I find the Kehoe one most credible given he was the goalkeeper coach previously and the move to video analyst appeared to be a way to keep him on the pay roll when it was decided that the Canadian content on the coaching staff had to be boosted a bit. There have been rumours elsewhere that he is a drinking buddy of Mo Johnston's. On Winsper I think the high tempo tactics used through the summer months and having two full backs who find it difficult to maintain possession are a big part of it and it's unfair, therefore, to focus exclusively on the question of conditioning where all the late goals are concerned. The TFC injury list seems to be shorter than the opponent's most weeks, which suggests Winsper is getting something right but I would agree that all the hype about him should be ignored. If he was as good as the propaganda that is repeated continually on the in house video clips he would still be working in the Premiership. Some MLS keepers have carved out good careers despite being relatively weak on crosses. Kevin Hartman comes to mind. I suspect the issue with failing to get out to crosses at the top of the six yard box will hold Frei back from the big money move to a top European team or getting a call up from Switzerland more than it will stop him from getting a regular game in MLS. Not sure to what extent it is fair to blame Toshack at this point. Playing low standard NCAA stuff up to the age of 22 probably got him into bad habits that are not too easy to break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 DC is no longer the target, though. New England has taken over the power position, and with a greater number of games left for them to play compared to TFC, I can't see TO getting in anymore. Forrest knew this, and that's why he was stressing that TFC needed the three points already at half time. Trust in Craig, the guy knows what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 The Revs have two games left against the Crew, and even if Columbus does take their foot off the pedal in the last few games, they're still a quality side. I'd say don't stick the fork in Toronto until we see what happens in New England's midweek game against Dallas this week. Should Dallas pull off the upset, things get quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 The only playoff spot that is realistic right now would be #8. Chivas and NE have too many games in hand / points to catch along with the rest of the leaders (barring some complete collapse). Seattle, DCU, RSL, and TFC are scrapping for that last playoff spot. Luckily TFC would look to have the easiest schedule but we need at least 4 points to close on Seattle which holds the head-to-head tie-breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuirtonPark Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 A detail, but at 35 points TFC has equalled last season's final total, with 3 games to go. In the first season, the team managed only 25 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 quote:Originally posted by ag futbol The only playoff spot that is realistic right now would be #8. Chivas and NE have too many games in hand / points to catch along with the rest of the leaders (barring some complete collapse). Chivas is likely in the driver's seat, but New England has a very tough five games to end the year, including a home and home versus Columbus. They'll find it hard to get points from here on out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 ^ Revs have also lost Ralston for the rest of the year with a torn ACL. That's going to hurt them a bit. If they manage 4 points from the next 2 games (vs. Dallas and Colorado) then they are very safe. if not, teams like TFC, DCU and RSL still have some hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 quote:Originally posted by MuirtonPark A detail, but at 35 points TFC has equalled last season's final total, with 3 games to go. In the first season, the team managed only 25 points. They are making progress although painfully slow Finish with 3 wins and hope the other teams are chokers. Anyone know the status of Adrian S? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squid2 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA I'm curious as to what the actual stats look like. Shame we can't actually see them ourselves. No stats, but its a short CBC video with Winsper talking about ProZone. http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Sports/Soccer/ID=1269304308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 quote:Originally posted by squid2 No stats, but its a short CBC video with Winsper talking about ProZone. http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Sports/Soccer/ID=1269304308 Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 quote:Originally posted by squid2 No stats, but its a short CBC video with Winsper talking about ProZone. http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Sports/Soccer/ID=1269304308 Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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