jpg75 Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Kick-off is at 8:30pm ET and will be shown live on RSN. Down to only 4 games left in the season and TFC is on the outside looking in. On a positive note, after this game TFC has the easiest schedule in the league with 3 remaining games against sub .500 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Chicago is one of the worst home teams in the league, if that makes anyone feel better. Then again, Toronto ain't exactly a top-notch road team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 What's the likelihood of Blanco playing in this one? If he's out, that could be a detrimental blow to Chicago's ability to produce turning points in the game. Hopefully Julian doesn't have to run his guts out for another 90 again (unless he's ready for it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 ^ Blanco is likely out, according to the Section 8 boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 I noticed McBride played against Columbus, i thought he'd suffered a season-ending injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 He's back but hasn't looked as effective as before he was hurt. He's missed a couple opportunities that he would have buried pre-injury. Of course, Becks wasn't really performing 100% either, but managed to show up 110% against TFC. This could be a real downer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc88 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Chicago is not great at home, but neither was LA ... The Fire have more balance front to back IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 They also have Chris Rolfe, who alone can cause quite a few problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltfc91 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 2-2 tie De Ro with his 14th goal and 6th assist in all competitions. Barrett with the other goal. Second goal for Toronto was one of their best ever... De Ro's great ball to a diving Barrett. Chicago's 2 goals... well stupidity. First one is Garcia putting it in his own net because Frei is standing in no man's land. Second goal is Garcia leaving a man open and again Frei standing in no man's land half coming and half going for it. Ref cost us the game as De Ro was going on a breakway, but was stopped by a hand ball at around 70th minute. Should have been a red card. To sum up: De Rosario played incredible as usual Frei was exposed like a 4 year old girl as usual, like I have been saying after every post game thread Garcia was exposed like a 4 year old And when is De Guzman gonna show up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by michaeltfc91 And when is De Guzman gonna show up? Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Well a point is better than nothing but you let a win slip away. Tough game by Garcia. He just didn't cover the guy on the winning goal. Not too bad of a game overall for the team as a whole. You are playing much better. Barrett scores on a nice deflection. I sometimes think if he quit trying to pick the corners and just concentrated on getting the shots on net he would score more. JDG later on looked a bit winded. I know he is in good shape all the time but there is a difference between being in good shape and being in game shape. It takes playing regularly so hopefully by next week he'll be going strong for a full 90. Dero did what Dero does. Where would you guys be this year without him? Still gets checked too much for my liking but he is very effective and his work rate is terrific. You must win your last 3 to have a chance at the playoffs. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 There must be a fitness issue with Julian (unsurprisingly after this time off) as he looked rustier and more out of shape this game than last. And he play really deeply, something I don't want to see him do in this league. Overall the fitness of the team looked awful - they were all gassed with about 30 minutes to go, making me wonder what Paul Winsper has been hired for. And Garcia can safely be left unprotected for the expansion draft. He may have just prevented TFC from making the playoffs with that performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 that 2nd goal for chicago was 90% the fault of Marvell Wynne who proved once again that he has no bloody clue how to man mark an opponent. You could clearly see JDG urging him to close Justin Mapp down but Marvell just waited, giving Mapp all day to lift his head, see McBride virtually all alone and put a pretty simple cross (for a pro) into the box. The fact that Garcia simply can't cover anyone anymore didn't help. And michaeltfc91....please explain what exactly Frei did wrong in tonight's game (other than a flubbed goal kick). gotta agree with GL...why is Winsper hailed as this outstanding trainer when I constantly see TFC whither down the stretch, especially away. goodbye playoffs...hello long offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr that 2nd goal for chicago was 90% the fault of Marvell Wynne who proved once again that he has no bloody clue how to man mark an opponent. You could clearly see JDG urging him to close Justin Mapp down but Marvell just waited, giving Mapp all day to lift his head, see McBride virtually all alone and put a pretty simple cross (for a pro) into the box. The fact that Garcia simply can't cover anyone anymore didn't help. And michaeltfc91....please explain what exactly Frei did wrong in tonight's game (other than a flubbed goal kick). gotta agree with GL...why is Winsper hailed as this outstanding trainer when I constantly see TFC whither down the stretch, especially away. goodbye playoffs...hello long offseason. I don't think Frei played that last goal very well to be honest. Either you are going for the ball or you are staying on your line, anything in the middle of this is a keeper mistake. IMO that was a great cross by Chicago and Frei should've stayed on his line on that one. Maybe it would've been a goal even if he stayed at home but it would've looked better for him. Frei has been really good this year but his play on crosses has been suspect in the last month or so. Earlier in the season I thought he was excellent on crosses and I was surprise for a rookie but now it seems he doesn't have the same confidence on those play. Don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 ^ The inconsistency/lack of ability of Garcia would certainly throw many keepers I'm sure. Seriously, why did they pick this guy up?? I honestly don't see why he is still getting first team minutes. Do Cummins and Dasovic not see how ineffective he is out there?? He can't cover ANYONE in the box, can't defend a ball in the air (even if it's LOBBED IN!), is slower than hell, and is yet another defender who likes hoofing it up the field more often than not. That first goal was 100% his fault. What the HELL is Frei supposed to do on that one? Frei was positioning himself in case the Fire attacker (McBride?) managed to get a boot on it. Garcia's directionless and blind chest-pass (if you can even faking call it that!) back towards goal caught him completely off guard. You could tell how caught off guard Frei was by how totally awkward his dive at the ball was. When you have a pure liability in front of you, it's tough to look good. Either Fellinga or Gomez get the start next week, otherwise Cummins really has no clue how to eliminate problems from his starting 11. I really felt TFC deserved the three points on the evening, and I wonder how different the game would have finished had bonehead Garcia not started at center back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 The one thing that bothered me was the Robinson for Gerba substitution. That was pretty the end of TFC in terms of credible attacks and trying to sit on a one goal with half an hour of action left led to the inevitable late goal conceded. Was Robinson put on simply because Chris Cummins felt some obligation to work him in somehow? What was called for was O'Brien White for Gerba and Sanyang for Guevara (who was clearly still not 100%) to provide some fresh legs in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr gotta agree with GL...why is Winsper hailed as this outstanding trainer when I constantly see TFC whither down the stretch, especially away. goodbye playoffs...hello long offseason. For some odd reason that questioning of Winsper's value has been raisted before .. oh.. wait, we needed to get an english fitness trainer ? oh wait he has had a gassed team all year .... surely he is a good drinking buddy with Mo and some others, seriously TFC management is still at sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Gomez should have been in at centre bck instead of Garcia. He has the height to defend McBride. Other than that coaching error the boys played well enough on the road, got two goals, a tie and I think have a good shot at getting in the playoffs when you look at their remaining games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Trillium For some odd reason that questioning of Winsper's value has been raisted before .. oh.. wait, we needed to get an english fitness trainer ? oh wait he has had a gassed team all year .... surely he is a good drinking buddy with Mo and some others, seriously TFC management is still at sea. I was thinking the same thing ......and have been for the last few games. Why are TFC always dead for the last 20 minutes of every game while the other team is running circles around them if we have this top notch fitness guru? The Leafs fired their entire training staff this summer and hired a new regime that seems to have the players in peak condition. Time to do the same with TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltfc91 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr that 2nd goal for chicago was 90% the fault of Marvell Wynne who proved once again that he has no bloody clue how to man mark an opponent. You could clearly see JDG urging him to close Justin Mapp down but Marvell just waited, giving Mapp all day to lift his head, see McBride virtually all alone and put a pretty simple cross (for a pro) into the box. The fact that Garcia simply can't cover anyone anymore didn't help. And michaeltfc91....please explain what exactly Frei did wrong in tonight's game (other than a flubbed goal kick). gotta agree with GL...why is Winsper hailed as this outstanding trainer when I constantly see TFC whither down the stretch, especially away. goodbye playoffs...hello long offseason. On the first goal he was half the problem with Garcia... no communication between them. Frei should have yelled "keeper" and Garcia backs off. Frei didn't so Garcia chested it back towards Frei so he could pick it up, but he wasn't there. At about 20th minute punched a cross 2 hands right back in danger area (Forrest said it too) Then there was that long cross at about 55-60 mins where he didn't come for it and it goes by everyone and he awkwardly puts in out for a corner The second goal was entirely his fault... go get the ball, or if you can't get it, stay on your line. Never be in between The bad goal kick w/e The cross at the end of the game which Carr missed... Frei dove sideways instead of diving forward and getting the ball. You can't have a cross go through the 6 yard box especially 1 yard in front of the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr that 2nd goal for chicago was 90% the fault of Marvell Wynne who proved once again that he has no bloody clue how to man mark an opponent. You could clearly see JDG urging him to close Justin Mapp down but Marvell just waited, giving Mapp all day to lift his head, see McBride virtually all alone and put a pretty simple cross (for a pro) into the box. The fact that Garcia simply can't cover anyone anymore didn't help. I think we all know now why Bruce Arena was willing to let Wynn go for pretty much nothing back in year 1. Now that RBNY told alfredo pacheco to go back to El Salvador we have by far the worst defensive full-back in MLS. If this team wants to go anywhere in the future, you can't let the defending that Wynn and Breenan provide on a regular basis hold weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by loyola Frei has been really good this year but his play on crosses has been suspect in the last month or so. Earlier in the season I thought he was excellent on crosses and I was surprise for a rookie but now it seems he doesn't have the same confidence on those play. Don't know why. I agree. He's not bossing the box as well as he was earlier in the year. But I also agree with tmcmurph when he says that having Stopgap Nick in front of you can create indecision. On the first goal Garcia just needs to clear it. And in agreement with VPjr, I don't understand how a guy who's got as much recovery pace as Wynne gives even modest opponents so much space and respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squid2 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard The one thing that bothered me was the Robinson for Gerba substitution. That was pretty the end of TFC in terms of credible attacks and trying to sit on a one goal with half an hour of action left led to the inevitable late goal conceded. Was Robinson put on simply because Chris Cummins felt some obligation to work him in somehow? What was called for was O'Brien White for Gerba and Sanyang for Guevara (who was clearly still not 100%) to provide some fresh legs in midfield. Cummins still can't make sence of all the square pegs and the round holes. Complicated and compounded by the fact that others around him are equally inept: Goalkeeper Coach Toshack - Frei's weakness becomes more pronounced as opponents continue to expose it each week. Strength and Conditioning Coach Paul Winsper - TFC's final 15 minutes is terrible, statistics don't lie; neither does the injury list. Video Analyst Eddie Kehoe - ProZone is too advanced for him, so is modern day technology. TFC clearly not as prepared for opponents as opponents are for TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squid2 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA I agree. He's not bossing the box as well as he was earlier in the year. But I also agree with tmcmurph when he says that having Stopgap Nick in front of you can create indecision. On the first goal Garcia just needs to clear it. Frei - On service entering his six, and controlling his box. "Where's waldo?" During the offseason, he's going to have to address his inability to deal with crosses effectively, this Dracula thing is costing the club games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by squid2 Video Analyst Eddie Kehoe - ProZone is too advanced for him, so is modern day technology. TFC clearly not as prepared for opponents as opponents are for TFC. I'm curious as to what the actual stats look like. Shame we can't actually see them ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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