youllneverwalkalone Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Rudi Someone said it earlier, but we're really thin at RB after Stalteri. I believe Legerwood can play there, but who else can push for that spot after Stally hangs them up? Nana Attakora is the only other person I can think of that has been playing RB at a high level recently, unless I'm completely missing someone. I know Harmse used to play there in his earlier days, but Nana has already surpassed him IMO. Edgar played there a fair bit this past season, and last. I believe McKenna played the position as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Rudi I think all the older guys should be allowed to play until they can no longer cut it at that level (cue Grizzly to tell us that DeRo has never cut it at that level). DeRo especially brings something in his game that no one else in Canada can. He's a strict vegan and keeps himself in terrific shape, so he should be able to perform for a number of years yet. Add in the fact that he has a definite chemistry with De Guzman and Gerba, and I think he should stick around for a while longer. Radz was able to contribute in his mid 30's, so I can definitely see some of our vets like DeRo and perhaps Stalteri still contribute in a few years' time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doopy Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 http://www.miamiherald.com/1455/story/1137063.html this is funny for it's pro-canadian slant. nice that's its a yank writing such rosy prose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Rudi I think all the older guys should be allowed to play until they can no longer cut it at that level (cue Grizzly to tell us that DeRo has never cut it at that level). And would Grizzly be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I couldn't watch the game, but am enjoying the opinions tonight. It's nice to take the group, and also, to get some rest for a few guys. Having only two days rest is tough, and when card trouble is factored in, Hart had no choice but to rest a number of players. I like the sounds of the positives I'm reading about, and the negatives aren't overly surprising. Hastings gives what he can, and we know what he's about. Jackson is inexperienced, and frankly Suttong hasn't looked sharp in the first two games particularly in his ball distribution. Has he really gotten this bad this quickly, or am I missing something? The TV discussion is comical. We ALL wish the game was on TSN and Sportsnet and CBC simultaneously, giving all Canadians ample opportunity to watch the team we love. However, with streaming, and it being on a number of digital channels, there really is nothing to whine about. I look forward to the quarters. Allez les rouges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by RJB And would Grizzly be wrong? Nope, but thanks Rudi for saying it for me. I mean is there anyone who has watched the national team for many years who can not say that DeRo has been our most disappointing player especially in important games against top opposition. And this is not anti-TFC bias because I have said this long before DeRo joined TFC and also hold Serioux in very high regard (and will do the same with Gerba if he keeps scoring like he has been). No Canada did has not miss the guy who is a star against MLS competition and the Impact B team but a schmuck at international level. The guy who thinks he can pull Maradonna moves against international competition and loses the ball immediately. The guy who thinks he can score all by himself and shoots the ball either at the keeper or 20 feet above the net. The guy who rarely passes but when he does misses his target by 10 feet. The guy who receives a pass and lets it bounce in front of him where in MLS he can recover it and in international play the other team takes the ball. A selfish player who thinks he is far better than he is. There is no room for him in our midfield though he might be decent as a sub with a lot of energy if we are behind in the last 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I really like how when the game was nearing the end Peters kept going for the corner when he got possession which is the best place to waste time/get a corner/get a throw in. Yes this is basic football 101 but it is surprising how many players do not do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by marktci In the West, not one game has been on Sportsnet Pacific. They've been on digital, but not on basic cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I took the time to look up the definition of the word "broadcast" which one is "to make widely known" and another "to distribute widely or in all directions". So at best then sportsnet partially broadcasted the games since it was not available in all parts of the country. Someone living in one of the blanked regions could view the broadcast, but only from a non-blanked region by means of having access to them by means of digital cable, satellite or internet. Not everybody does have those means. Those that don't can easily be upset. I guess my point is we shouldn't be arguing for two pages of posts about technicalities and meaning of a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I'm in Halifax and only saw the 2nd half of the game at a sports bar (thanks Marriott for charging $200 a night and not even having SN East on the TV...shouldn't complain after what happened to Lord Bob). Anyways, goals looked good and we shut them down pretty well in the 2nd half. Sutton was a disaster, end of story! If the Ticos had finished better, we would have been sunk, but they didn't so we go to Philly for maybe Honduras, Part Deux. And thanks for the game comments everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by nolando BTW, it just dawned on me, I wonder if Stalteri might pack it in after this Gold Cup. 32 in October, he might want to take a permanent break from the CSA circus ride and all the transatlantic flights. Is this his last hurrah? I would think Stalteri wants a crack at Samuel's cap record. Hopefully he gets three more caps this Gold Cup, taking him past Watson. Then he just needs four friendlies and he is there. Let's see ... CSA... 4 friendlies... 2013? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by The Ref I guess my point is we shouldn't be arguing for two pages of posts about technicalities and meaning of a word. Especially when the poster in question originally claimed that none of the matches were "televised", which is where the original correction/debate sprang from. Please, let this be the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Watching last night's game I felt almost disconnect - it is very weird watching a Canada game that means essentially nothing. IMO who you play shouldn't matter, we're in this tournament to win it and we're going to have to play the big guns at one point. BRING ON HONDURAS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 ALEX D: What happened!? If Keano plays Peters consistently at Ipswich at RB - there is no reason whatsoever he shouldn't be there for Canada. Say what you will about Keano as a coach, he will demand a certain level of performance and characteristics from his RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly Nope, but thanks Rudi for saying it for me. I mean is there anyone who has watched the national team for many years who can not say that DeRo has been our most disappointing player especially in important games against top opposition. And this is not anti-TFC bias because I have said this long before DeRo joined TFC and also hold Serioux in very high regard (and will do the same with Gerba if he keeps scoring like he has been). No Canada did has not miss the guy who is a star against MLS competition and the Impact B team but a schmuck at international level. The guy who thinks he can pull Maradonna moves against international competition and loses the ball immediately. The guy who thinks he can score all by himself and shoots the ball either at the keeper or 20 feet above the net. The guy who rarely passes but when he does misses his target by 10 feet. The guy who receives a pass and lets it bounce in front of him where in MLS he can recover it and in international play the other team takes the ball. A selfish player who thinks he is far better than he is. There is no room for him in our midfield though he might be decent as a sub with a lot of energy if we are behind in the last 20 minutes. I have been frustrated by DeRo generally at the Nat level as well. And he has certainly never translated his club form to the international level in WCQ - unlike many other MLS level stars fror various CONCACAF sides. But that he has 15 (or so) goals for Canada, he has been pretty good in some of the previous Gold Cups. Having watched DeJong, Simpson and Nakajim-Farran on the left side of the midfield, I am not convinced that DeRo is still not our best option. As frustrating as he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly I really like how when the game was nearing the end Peters kept going for the corner when he got possession which is the best place to waste time/get a corner/get a throw in. Yes this is basic football 101 but it is surprising how many players do not do this. Or coaches at the National team level who teach it ... que Dale ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Rudi DeRo especially brings something in his game that no one else in Canada can. He's a strict vegan and keeps himself in terrific shape, so he should be able to perform for a number of years yet. So do you think all our national team players should become strict vegans ? Seriously I have issues with players who go vegan ( usually females ) they seem to lack something in them when they do .. maybe its the hunter instinct etc. but not eating meat seems to affect players and the way they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Trillium Or coaches at the National team level who teach it ... que Dale ... Well, if we need our NT coaches to teach that kind of stuff you have to question our players soccer IQ...I've seen U-11 players doing that on a constant basis. It's ironic you bring the example of Dale because we never needed that tactic with him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by loyola Well, if we need our NT coaches to teach that kind of stuff you have to question our players soccer IQ...I've seen U-11 players doing that on a constant basis. It's ironic you bring the example of Dale because we never needed that tactic with him.... Touche.. but really all coaches at all levels have to occasionally return to talking about the basics, players shockingly as it may seem need coaches to do that. You dont explain complex things to a player pre-game or during the game, but to say hey guys remember if we are in need of eating up time, take the freaking ball to the corner and hold it off the other team. Two second statement to bring the players back to reality .. play the system, make the simple pass, provide support. The game is simple its about the execution, Hart has them executing. Next execution Honduras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Trillium Touche.. but really all coaches at all levels have to occasionally return to talking about the basics, players shockingly as it may seem need coaches to do that. You dont explain complex things to a player pre-game or during the game, but to say hey guys remember if we are in need of eating up time, take the freaking ball to the corner and hold it off the other team. Two second statement to bring the players back to reality .. play the system, make the simple pass, provide support. The game is simple its about the execution, Hart has them executing. Next execution Honduras. No argument from me there, coaches need to give that kind of instruction to the players at every level but I was just wondering why you brought Dale in the equation unless you think we should've go for the corners with 80 min left against Honduras at Saputo Stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by loyola No argument from me there, coaches need to give that kind of instruction to the players at every level but I was just wondering why you brought Dale in the equation unless you think we should've go for the corners with 80 min left against Honduras at Saputo Stadium? Actually if Dale had gone to the corner for the eighty minutes we might have fared better, I do not think we can ever afford to try to protect a lead but falling back to play to a null result in most situations, needed to eat up three minutes yes, to try to do it longer seems risky to me given our National team abilitys and experience. When we need to keep a lead to win, we should continue doing what got us the lead, not getting up by one and then thinking we are Italy ready to fall back and close the lock. But skilled time wasting for a minute here or there to help the team gain composure works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and White Army Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Lomonty It's sucks we have nothing to play for till 2014... Bollocks to that! I want to be continental champions again. And I want BetFair to go bankrupt from all the pay-outs after their ridiculous 41-to-1 odds against us winning the Gold Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 quote:Originally posted by nolbertos All I can say is "WELCOME TO CANADIAN SOCCER REALITY" Sorry for the Caps, but you're not the only one fighting an uphill battle to get more games televised. I think your expectations are too high for Canadian standards, Too true. Before the internet streams came along it was next to impossible to watch the MNT. I've given up on Sportsnet and I'm not buying 4 channels. Between atdhe.net and justin.tv I can see almost all the games. That or find a pub that is showing it which can be just as hard sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 JustinTV - Official Broadcaster of the Canadian National Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Highlights sutton was unlucky wit the first goal. he usually gets more height than that on his kicks, i blame the turf. the header was very fortunate to go right to the CR forward, and then the chip shot was crap, and only went in bc sutton fell, again i blame the super crap turf at FIU. simpson's cross was perfect. he has earned his starting place. dejong's good. he has a great shot and obviously has confidence in it by shooting from so far away just after he just sent in a poor ball. we should have won his one 2 zip. first goal was a gimme, second should not have been a foul, tho we should be more mindful of our challenges around the box when theres a dead ball specialist on the other squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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