nolando Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Read this thread: http://www.xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=137941&page=307 "He just replied to me. He says he talked with Ciro, an they will meet in August to clear everything up!" Anybody read Bosnian?? This is from this morning: http://www.bihvijesti.net/izvor102352_Ciro-brzo-reagovao-Golman-Portsmoutha-Asmir-Begovic-dobio-poziv-u-reprezentaciju-BiH.html I think we just lost another one, lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Here's what comes up using the Croatian to English option on Google translate:- Ciro quickly reacted: Golman Portsmouth Asmir Begovic received a call in the team of Bosnia and Herzegovina 22.06.2009u 12:32 pm Miroslav Ciro Blazevic, selector A football team of Bosnia and Herzegovina has announced that for the next gathering npozvati and Asmir Begovic, golmana Portsmouth, which is under the new rule, FIFA received a permit for the dresu BiH. Selector Blazevic has contacted the players, and the guardian of a network of English premierliga#353;a who received the call and Canada will have the opportunity to debituje for BiH for 12th August when the next scheduled friendly match of our national team. "About Begovi#263; know everything and eagerly look ga. He was enthusiastic and said that the thought," said Blazevic for "liberation." Begovic will not answer the call from team Canada because of Club obligations, and that you will come to the gathering of our team will find out soon. and using the Serbian to English option:- Ciro quickly responded: Portsmouth goalkeeper Asmir Begovic received a call in the national team of Bosnia and Herzegovina 22.06.2009u 12:32 h Miroslav Ciro Blazevic, selector A football team of Bosnia and Herzegovina announced that for the next meeting npozvati and Asmir Begovic, Portsmouth goalkeeper who, according to a new FIFA rule is given permission to performance in the jersey of BiH. Selector is Bla#382;evi#263; contacted the players and the keeper of a network of English premierliga#353;a who received the call and Canada will have the opportunity to debituje for BiH, but 12th August when the next scheduled friendly match of our national team. About Begovi#263; know it all, and eagerly look. He was delighted and said that little to consider, "said Blazevic for" disengagement ". Begovic will not answer the call from Team Canada because klupskih obligations, and that you will come to the gathering of our team will find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 i would not be surprised if Begovic takes a wait and see attitude to Bosnia depending on how they do in World Cup qualifying. Right now they are second in their group and unlikley to catch Spain the group leaders. Turkey is behind them but has an easier schedule to finish including a match with Bosnia. So its possible they may be caught in the group for second; and even if they finish second they will need to play a home and away with other sides that finish second. As Begovic is missing the Gold Cup, the next time we can cap him is 2011 for the next Gold Cup. I would imagine he will wait until then or the next WC qualifying to commit either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpetzz Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 if we lose him we have no one to blame but ourselves...we had a chance tocap him with pointless world cup qualifiers after we were eliminated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpetzz Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 maybe it is time we get busy like the US and bosnia in this case and start trying to steal players back...fernandes is still available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 hate to say i told ya so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucker Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I speak the language, here is a literal translation: Selector Blazevic has contacted this player, a goalkeeper in the English Premier League who has been called for Canada and will have the opportunity to debut for Bosnia as soon as the 12th of August when the next friendly for our national team is scheduled. "About Begovic, I know everything and I am eagerly awaiting him (his response?). He was thrilled and said that he will give it some thought," said Blazevic for the paper (Oslobodenje). Begovic will not answer the call for Canada because of club commitments but whether he will come to the camp of our national team, we will find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I guess we'll have to wait for his decision. It's very frustrating if he choose Bosnia because Asmir has been in our youth program since he's 15-16. If he decides to play for another country it will result in a loss investment because everytime he participated in some youth national team activity he was taking the spot of another kid who could've got the exposure and experience.... Can we really blame the our coaching staff for not capping him? we had only one chance and it was in November against jamaica. Also, let's remember that at that time he was still cap-tied to Canada....that was before the rule changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSwede Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 The Bosnian FA is as hated as the CSA and I believe they are also charged with corruption among other things. Nonetheless, ethnic Bosnians have quite a strong feeling for where they are from. Pjanic the young midfielder for Olympique Lyonnais who spent most of his life in Luxembourg also chose in the end to play for Bosnia. I wouldn't be surprised if Begovic is a lost cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Just the Bosnians out poaching. Doesn't mean they'll bag anything. Does imply that Asmir got a call from Hart for the Gold Cup there doesn't it? He's flattered for the Bosnia offer and giving it a think. Bit discouraging he didn't flat out refuse the offer but I'm hopeful he'll come to the right decision fairly quickly, if he hasn't already. Boy, you get the feeling there is going to be a mad scramble to cap-tie every player who's ever shown a minutes worth of promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSwede Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Cheeta Boy, you get the feeling there is going to be a mad scramble to cap-tie every player who's ever shown a minutes worth of promise. You can say that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Can. in UK Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I feel sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I can understand his connection to Bosnia, but if he plays for them, after having played for us and expressing happiness at playing for Canada, this one will really hurt. This is getting a bit ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Didn't somebody on this board say the CSA were really excited about this rule change? It just seems set to do us more harm (like we needed even more of that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 This is very much an article written from the Bosnian perspective. Lots of stuff from the Bosnian FA on how they want Begovic, no indication that Begovic is actually seriously planning to accept the call. Asmir has a good track record of taking Canada's calls. Even the article admits that his club opportunity is the reason he's not at the Gold Cup. It's not time to panic yet. Soon, but not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Lord Bob This is very much an article written from the Bosnian perspective. Lots of stuff from the Bosnian FA on how they want Begovic, no indication that Begovic is actually seriously planning to accept the call. Asmir has a good track record of taking Canada's calls. Even the article admits that his club opportunity is the reason he's not at the Gold Cup. It's not time to panic yet. Soon, but not yet. Sorry but I'm worried. Let's remember the strange comments made by Begovic about the NT last October: http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/sport/Amir-Begovic-enjoying-time-Yeovil/article-406758-detail/article.html Ironically he was called one month later for the Jamaica game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 When we were eliminated for WCQ we called a squad that could cap tie a lot of young promising players. Edgar, Begovic, Johnson and Jackson. I think Johnson was cap-tied. BUT we did manage to cap tie Gbeke too! Take that Ivory Coast, have fun with Drogba up front losers! [)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Oh, yeah. If Begovic (or Edgar) does leave, that will be the greatest of the many offenses Dale Mitchell committed against the Canadian game. It might well be anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 How can you blame Mitchell for not playing Begovic when at the time he was the coach Begovic was cap-tied to Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Because Begovic was our goalkeeper of the future, we were obviously eliminated from World Cup qualifying, so let's give the kid a shot rather than Mitchell coaching to look good in his next job and throwing out every veteran who didn't refuse to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 quote:Originally posted by loyola Sorry but I'm worried. Let's remember the strange comments made by Begovic about the NT last October: http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/sport/Amir-Begovic-enjoying-time-Yeovil/article-406758-detail/article.html Ironically he was called one month later for the Jamaica game. Sounds like he had a beef with Mitchell; "Begovic has 11 Under-20 caps but is yet to play for his country's senior team. "I have my issues with Canada that are personal and that is another thing," he said. "For me to play well with my club has nothing to do with the national team. "I would like to play for Canada but it has never been down to me. "It is down to the people running the team. "I don't want to say too much about it but I would like to play for Canada."" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Lord Bob Because Begovic was our goalkeeper of the future, we were obviously eliminated from World Cup qualifying, so let's give the kid a shot rather than Mitchell coaching to look good in his next job and throwing out every veteran who didn't refuse to come. And if Jamaica had scored more goal because Asmir is his first international cap would've pulled a "Srdjan" would the Voyageurs had criticized Mitchell for throwing the game à la Dos Santos??? I think it's fair to question Mitchell not playing more of the youngsters against Jamaica. I was certainly expecting to see Begovic being given at least a half.But my point is that Mitchell had no way of knowing that FIFA would change it's rule for eligibility...so tough to blame his decision in that regard. You could even argue that under former FIFA rules, Begovic was cap-tied to Canada because Mitchell played him in a meaningless game in the 2005 U-20 WCQ in Honduras... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 ^I do think that, in general, we can say Canada has done a poor job of integrating the younger players in the full national team. The only manager we've had with pedigree in Holger, also seemed to be the only one who stressed the importance of bringing the young players through. It's ridiculous that Yallop brings through Peters with no club first team experience and then Mitchell (maybe in a knee jerk reaction to the Peters criticism?) wouldn't bring Edgar, Begovic, Hoilett, etc into the team when they are playing at a high level (though Begovic didn't have EPL experience at the time). Every other nation seems to be able to bring the elite young players through, why can't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 YNWA, I don't think it's a fair assessment if you look at the last group of youngsters. In the Mitchell/Hart time, guys like Issey NF, André Hainault, De Jong, Nik L., Wagenaar, Johnson, Jackson, Peters, Ornoch ahve been given their first caps. The 3 names you give to prove your point aren't really helping you. First, we know Hoillett isn't decided on his future and reports are suggesting he might be looking to play for Jamaica...Second, Begovic is a keeper and never had much League experience (except for 2 loan deals in L1 and L2) and it was tough to call him over Sutton, Lars or Onstad for the WCQ. The only one that could help your point is the enigmatic Edgar but he was called in 2007 for a camp in Iceland but wasn't able to convince the coaching staff to start him over Hastings or Imhoff. I think his situation at Newcastle didn't help him because he was never sent on loan, which could've help Mitchell or Hart in their evaluation of David. I think we have done a good job at giving caps to young players who were doing well with their clubs at certain time (when we aren't in the middle of WCQ). We also have to remember that we don't have a ton of talent coming from our youth, so sometimes we have to keep playing older guys at some position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbrad Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Can somebody please tell me why Asmir was not called for Gold Cup action? He's just played in the Premiership!! Is there a good reason for no Gold Cup call?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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