jpg75 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Canada Basketball had its funding cut by both Sport Canada and the Road To Excellence program this year under guidelines that Wayne Parrish, the national organization's executive director and CEO, says penalize team sports. There are probably implications for Soccer. The rest of the article is here and it's worth a read: http://www.tsn.ca/other_sports/story/?id=279601 Canada's summer Olympic teams -- basketball, soccer, volleyball, field hockey and water polo -- plus three Paralympic teams, banded together last year to lobby the government, and won a small victory earlier this month. Sport Canada created a funding pot to help the Olympic team sports through this summer at least -- it meant an additional $350,000 for Canada Basketball... ...There's a move afoot for all 22 team sports across Canada to join together to lobby around the needs of team sports in what Parrish said is unprecedented show of co-operation among the organizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 This sucks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachRich Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 It doesn't say why the funding was cut other than guidelines but that should be expected if the the sport has poor results. My guess would be is that they didn't rank high enough in the SC matrix to keep the funding they lost. The majority of the $ that the CSA gets from SC & COC is for the WP as they rank very high on the SC matrix. It's one of the reasons the WP Seniors get next to nothing from the CSA. We will know a little more when the CSA financials are posted on the site in June. They will let us know how the programs did funding wise for last year compared to other years. Also, you can visit the SC site where all the funding for AAP & hosting is posted which is quicker than waiting on the CSA financials. COC breakdowns per sport I've never been able to find. Keep your fingers crossed that the CSA doesn't see a decrease for any other than results. Needs to change but it's probably the kids that will pony up the extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 There certainly should be different criteria for funding teams sports if funding is based on medal performance. Pretty easy to win medals in a lot of individual sports with miniscule worldwide participation rates and a ridiculously high number of medals available to be won. No offense to anyone but it's a hell of a lot easier to become an elite athlete in fencing or archery than basketball or soccer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachRich Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 ^ Funding is based on a matrix of which medals are one apsect of that. Also, COC funds successful individuals & team directly like they did w/ the WP Seniors. Pretty hard to compare a team sport to a individual sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desigol Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Bloody Credit Crunch. Fannie Mae has a lot to answer for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Canadian basketball was amongst the elite through the 80's and early 90's. Not so the case anymore. This doesn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Canada B-ball has been focusing on it's youth teams to bolster the senior programs: http://www.thestar.com/sports/article/639219 "Canada has had a history of organizations working sometimes at cross purposes for developing the sport. Canada Basketball's improved relationship with the provinces and the national team programs for teenagers are making it more relevant. "For the first time at this level, we're building some consensus across the country," said Toronto's Roy Rana, who'll coach the cadet boys team this summer. "Hopefully we'll see many of the young people who are in this cadet program, on both the men's and women's side, continue to represent their country year in and year out."" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 There's a big difference between youth programs and how they develop results on the senior side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 ^ I disagree. The residency program gets the top young players in Canada together earlier, playing and learning at a much higher level than they would in HS. If they can have some success internationally and these young players get some exposure it may lead to NCAA scholarships for them and that's a good thing both individually and for the national team program. It may also give them stronger loyalty to the program so that we avoid more Rick Fox and Jamaal Magloire-type scenarios in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 quote:Originally posted by jpg75 ^ I disagree. The residency program gets the top young players in Canada together earlier, playing and learning at a much higher level than they would in HS. If they can have some success internationally and these young players get some exposure it may lead to NCAA scholarships for them and that's a good thing both individually and for the national team program. It may also give them stronger loyalty to the program so that we avoid more Rick Fox and Jamaal Magloire-type scenarios in the future... Even with the hopes that you claim, the problems would still remain in place. When it comes to European basketball, the majority of players will remain in the domestic system and thus retain their loyalty to the country. In Canada's case, the lure of NCAA scholarships and NBA carrers means that any sense of nationality gets thrown to the wayside. Unless their demands are met, they don't have any loyalty to the Canadian flag. We are already seeing this with Maglorie, Dalambert, and Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 ^ Dalembert was/is Haitian, he never participated in youth programs for Canada Bball. Anyways, i don't see how else CB can go about it without setting up our own national league. This is the cheaper, surer option for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Rumour has it that Sport Canada will be cutting the CSA's funding as well...got that info last night from a very reliable source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Do we know if this is an across the board cut for all sports or something else (Olympic underachievers, etc.) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 ^ team sports seem to be taking a serious hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Update to this story: My normally very reliable source might be wrong this time. Apparently, CSA funding will not be reduced as Basketball Canada's was and there is potential for a funding increase in future years if certain programs show improvement (I don't know what criteria are used to determine "improvement" but I assume they use FIFA world rankings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr Update to this story: My normally very reliable source might be wrong this time. Apparently, CSA funding will not be reduced as Basketball Canada's was and there is potential for a funding increase in future years if certain programs show improvement (I don't know what criteria are used to determine "improvement" but I assume they use FIFA world rankings). Oh, thank god they don't have to qualify for anything. FIFA rankings it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 ^ is that sarcasm Ed.... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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