jpg75 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Carver wants team to play "blue-collar" football and outwork their opponents. Sounds good to me, as long as it doesn't turn into "running around like headless chickens"... http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/620605 To illustrate his point, yesterday he showed them a video of last Sunday's English Premier League game in which Fulham with its "blue-collar players who work hard" went on the road and defeated Manchester City, "who have all the flair and all the big-priced players," 3-1. "It shows you can get results by working hard and working for each other and working for a team," Carver said at BMO Field before TFC (1-1-2) left for a road game tomorrow against FC Dallas (0-3-1). "That's what I've stressed to our guys," he said. "We've got to get out there Sunday night and work for the team and then let the natural ability that some of our flair players have take its course." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 quote:Originally posted by jpg75 To illustrate his point, yesterday he showed them a video of last Sunday's English Premier League game in which Fulham with its "blue-collar players who work hard" went on the road and defeated Manchester City, "who have all the flair and all the big-priced players," 3-1. That's exactly what's wrong with this coach and consequently the team. WE NEED A NON BRITISH COACH.........PLEASE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdroze Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Yes, god forbid we ask them to play hard. Surely all they have to do is walk on the field, and TFC's abundance of natural flair will win the game all by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 quote:Originally posted by jpg75 Carver wants team to play "blue-collar" football and outwork their opponents. Sounds good to me, as long as it doesn't turn into "running around like headless chickens"... http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/620605 To illustrate his point, yesterday he showed them a video of last Sunday's English Premier League game in which Fulham with its "blue-collar players who work hard" went on the road and defeated Manchester City, "who have all the flair and all the big-priced players," 3-1. "It shows you can get results by working hard and working for each other and working for a team," Carver said at BMO Field before TFC (1-1-2) left for a road game tomorrow against FC Dallas (0-3-1). "That's what I've stressed to our guys," he said. "We've got to get out there Sunday night and work for the team and then let the natural ability that some of our flair players have take its course." Based on this explanation, I take that Barrett will be starting again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Yap having that Dutchie in my blood I would love to see some logic in our game.It is very frustrating for me to watch looking for that build up ,finding the open man and create those opportunities.As I said before soccer needs to be played with a high level of entertainment in mind as well. Anyway I am not here to relate to Holland or that old country attitude, but just hoping to see a smart and logical system in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 quote:Originally posted by rdroze Yes, god forbid we ask them to play hard. Surely all they have to do is walk on the field, and TFC's abundance of natural flair will win the game all by itself. No, god forbid we start playing a more technical non british brand of soccer in Canada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Eric No, god forbid we start playing a more technical non british brand of soccer in Canada! Come on now, we all know the ball is a diseased object that needs to be blasted down the field with abandon. I mean that's the logical way to play when the meat of the season is played in hot temperatures isn't it? It's not like TFC have directly gone down hill over the hot summer months for 2 years straight (hmmm). Carver needs to put away his pom-poms and start using his undersized brain. In the two years I've watched TFC play, very rarely do they get explicity out worked. What usually happens is TFC works hard, and the other team works smart. So TFC wastes their energy and the other team gets more out of less. But regardless of how that plays out in John Carvers mind, more effort = win, less effort = loss. Which is why you see peons like Johann and Jarred Smith on the field in the past. Because they run around alot wich means they are putting in "effort". Who cares that they are constantly in the wrong position on the field, run to the wrong places, are too stupid to read the play, they can run really fast and for a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 To be fair, Fulham played well last week in their win at Man City. I didn't watch the whole game, but i had it on the TV in the bedroom (i also had another game on the TV in the living room) and saw parts of it. From what i saw they defended well, counter-attacked well and took advantage of their chances. If we can play like Fulham did then we'll have a good chance to win tomorrow. But if the players take it to mean "work hard, blast it long, run around and look busy", and in the process forget to play the game properly then we're doomed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prizby Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 lets see how the players respond, anything less than a win, I feel we deserve Carver's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Comparing Mitchell and Carver based on their preparation and time spend with the players, I think unless Carver starts winning some more games now....there isn't much of a difference between the two of them and we ended up asking for Mitchell's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Is that really the solution? Work harder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 At least Carver is somewhat charismatic..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Stuff like this that makes me want to stop watching TFC play. Seriously, I wish TFC played similar style to Gold Cup Canadian Men team. They were fun to watch before Mitchell arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Eric No, god forbid we start playing a more technical non british brand of soccer in Canada! Aww, diddums. Don't like English footy, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 ^ Don't tell me you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 quote:Originally posted by RJB Is that really the solution? Work harder? It may just be spin for public consumption so he is seen to be doing something given some of the troops are getting restless and his options in terms of changing the starting lineup are actually quite limited. Rightly or wrongly, he clearly isn't going to use Velez instead of Harmse and Frei appears to have beat out Sutton at least for now. White is injured and Edwards, Smith, Gomez, Sanyang (yes I know about the not until August angle), Attakora-Gyan and Gala appear to just be making up the numbers at training at this point so given Dichio appears to be a fixture in a second half supersub role that leaves Ricketts and Vitti as the options to change last week's starting XI. That would probably simply turn things back to one of the scenarios that have been tried before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 ^ To be fair, Attakora was hurt at the U20 WCQ and could still be working his way back from injury. You are probably right about Gala, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard It may just be spin for public consumption so he is seen to be doing something given some of the troops are getting restless and his options in terms of changing the starting lineup are actually quite limited. Rightly or wrongly, he clearly isn't going to use Velez instead of Harmse and Frei appears to have beat out Sutton at least for now. White is injured and Edwards, Smith, Gomez, Sanyang (yes I know about the not until August angle), Attakora-Gyan and Gala appear to just be making up the numbers at training at this point so given Dichio appears to be a fixture in a second half supersub role that leaves Ricketts and Vitti as the options to change last week's starting XI. That would probably simply turn things back to one of the scenarios that have been tried before. I get the feeling that this is an important stretch for JC, not necessarily with this road game but definitely with the next two home matches in short succession. If his team drops points with unconvincing performances I wonder if he'll see through the rest of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Dwayne another victim of that phony Grass.It seems he is without any doubt. I am so happy to know that TFC is changing this crap to Mother Earth's grass with all it's inherited beauty. Yap I am off to Jack Astors in where else Scarberia for the game and knowing these Scarborough rowdies it will be a blast,it's like being in the Stadium.Can't wait to see the Scarborough connection again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Exactly the same lineup as last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 www.atdhe.net has a link to an online broadcast of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Who put Chad Barrett in Guevara's shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prizby Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 http://www.justin.tv/greatyou_tv works for online anyone know why the seats are virtually empty in dallas...do i hear move to montreal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prizby Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 and barrett once again can't even get the ball on net...what a wanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 Pizza Hut Park official attendance: 132 [:0] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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