Vic Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Pellerud doing both Coach and Women's Program Director meant he did both half-well and neither well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 quote:Originally posted by mrgreer any clue as to who has applied so far? I'd love to answer that question truthfully but I can't because I honestly don't know how publicizing names at this point might impact how those candidates are perceived by people within the CSA. During the WNT hiring process, it was well understood that candidates should make every effort to avoid trying to campaign for the job in the media and I imagine the same applies this time. All I can tell you is that I know two names and both have international coaching experience, both would be affordable and I'd be happy with either one of them. I'm sure that dozens of CVs will be submitted so, by the end of the day, I might be lucky to know 1-2% of the candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Hart had a good record with the Men's team actually compared to Mitchell he was god like. Winning vs. Jamaica, Bermuda, Costa Rica, Guatemala Draws away vs. Venezuela (who have turned into a pretty damn good team), USA (come on that was a draw with the last minute equalizer). Losses to Jamaica away and Guadeloupe thats it really. Thats a great record enough to make you wonder what if..... The players like Hart so they will show up that is a definite plus! Hart knows how to make subs, he is very good with subs actually. Hume vs. USA, Gerba vs. Venezuela in fact many of his subs came on and made instant impacts I remember Issey coming on vs. Guatemala and playing a perfect pass almost immediately. Im excited for him, he hasn't failed Canada so I don't think anyone should doubt him. Hopefully he doesn't feel a need to call Hastings, Jazic, Nash, Onstad and Hainault because of their Gold Cup performances 2 years ago. Actually I dont care if he calls Hainault just I don't think he should be 1st choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr I'd love to answer that question truthfully but I can't because I honestly don't know how publicizing names at this point might impact how those candidates are perceived by people within the CSA. During the WNT hiring process, it was well understood that candidates should make every effort to avoid trying to campaign for the job in the media and I imagine the same applies this time. All I can tell you is that I know two names and both have international coaching experience, both would be affordable and I'd be happy with either one of them. I'm sure that dozens of CVs will be submitted so, by the end of the day, I might be lucky to know 1-2% of the candidates. Interesting. If Hart wins the Gold Cup two years after he got to the Semi's and yet his resume would still be significantly less illustrious than the people who have applied, then I'm expecting some pretty big names have applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 A "big name" coach is not neccisarily what we need. Player-coach relations is a variable that is probably underestimated. Yeah, it would be nice to see a name like Peckerman or Lavolpe coaching us, but that doesn't gaurentee success. If they players like Hart they will respond to him. Remember, we need the right coach for the current group of players. That being said, I think the best thing would be to hire Hart as our coach if we do well in the GC, and find an international TD to take up his current post. Even having a guy like Simones as a TD would be excellent for us, but our coach does not have to be an international coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I have no problem with Hart, but I hope the "interim coach" is a temporary label for who will be the full time coach unless Hart really fu:cks up at the Gold Cup. I don't want to see a Gold Cup year go to waste because we change coaches yet again right after it. It didn't work in 2007 with Mitchell (yes that was the year before WCQ not 3 years before). I still think the coach for 2014 needs to start now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I would like to see the full time coach hired soon, however if the CSA is taking their time because there are lots of quality applicants, I don't mind waiting for a bit! 2014 is a ways away so we have time! On the point of a coach who the players all like, wasn't Yallop well liked, remember how that turned out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreer Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr I'd love to answer that question truthfully but I can't because I honestly don't know how publicizing names at this point might impact how those candidates are perceived by people within the CSA. During the WNT hiring process, it was well understood that candidates should make every effort to avoid trying to campaign for the job in the media and I imagine the same applies this time. All I can tell you is that I know two names and both have international coaching experience, both would be affordable and I'd be happy with either one of them. I'm sure that dozens of CVs will be submitted so, by the end of the day, I might be lucky to know 1-2% of the candidates. ok now you've got me excited haha. honestly it's just good to know that people with international experience are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Keegan The players like Hart so they will show up that is a definite plus! Hart knows how to make subs, he is very good with subs actually. Hume vs. USA, Gerba vs. Venezuela in fact many of his subs came on and made instant impacts I remember Issey coming on vs. Guatemala and playing a perfect pass almost immediately. Harmse for Bernier when we were a goal down vs Guadeloupe? Granted, maybe that was his best available option at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imusic Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I heard that Francisco Maturana is the leading candidate to be Canada's head coach after the Gold Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razcle Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 ^ Source???? Unless that is sarcastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 It is never official until the Germans have written about it : Interimstrainer bis zum Ende des Jahres Hart übernimmt Kanada http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/wm/startseite/artikel/507451 Stephen Hart ist zum zweiten Mal in seiner Laufbahn Hauptverantwortlicher bei der kanadischen Nationalmannschaft. Wie der kanadische Fußball-Verband CSA am Freitag bekannt gab, übernimmt Hart den Posten als Interimscoach bis Ende 2009. Wird wieder an der kanadischen Außenlinie stehen: Stephen Hart. © imago Er soll die Ahornblätter wie vor zwei Jahren übergangsweise bis Ende 2009 übernehmen. Damit tritt der 49-Jährige die Nachfolge von Dale Mitchell an, der Ende März seines Amtes enthoben worden war. Hart, der seit März 2008 als technischer Direktor des CSA arbeitete, wird das Team nach der verpassten WM-Qualifikation zum ersten Mal am 30. Mai im Länderspiel gegen Zypern betreuen, ehe es im kommenden Sommer zum CONCACAF Gold Cup geht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA Harmse for Bernier when we were a goal down vs Guadeloupe? Granted, maybe that was his best available option at the time. That team during WCQ wasn't very deep at all. Rob Friend left for his wedding so all we had was Gerba and Hume. Bernier was playing poorly iirc although he did assist the Gerba goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 So how many stars do we need to align for us to make another WC? Geez, the way some of you talk on here... Hart will do for now. I hope he isn't chosen as the final answer, thought, for 2014, as the CSA really needs to make a new, fresh type decision on this one. By being appointed interim coach, I hope that it basically eliminates him for the WCQ coaching position down the road. Perhaps that isn't fair to him, but honestly, we're all dying for a big change, like what is happening for the WNT. IF they can find someone who the players will listen to, and who can actually be competent as a coach, who isn't S-H, then let's go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Hart had the mens team playing the best soccer in recent memory at the last gold cup. They were playing attractive, possession soccer and matching teams like the U.S. The players really seemed to like him. And the CSA hires Dale Mitchell, for reasons only known to them. Stephen Hart should have gotten the position after the Gold Cup. Despite what everyone here thinks, I think he has given a great account for himself. Please dont try to blame Dale Mitchell's short comings on Stephen Hart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Stephen Hart has now a golden opportunity to show what he's capable of in the Gold Cup. He needs to minimum equal what he did in the last one to show that was he's doing, otherwise it will show that last GC was just a fluke and he's a desk coach IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Keegan That team during WCQ wasn't very deep at all. Rob Friend left for his wedding so all we had was Gerba and Hume. Bernier was playing poorly iirc although he did assist the Gerba goal. I won't disagree about the lack of depth, though bringing in a player who's essentially a d-mid instead of a better suited attacking option like Issey tends to lead to easy hindsight second guessing, so I'll leave that alone. However, Hart did start Issey in the next match vs Haiti so perhaps he's one who can learn from his misjudgements when he's in charge calling the final shots, who knows. With Hart at the helm, I think the senior, so called "key" members of the squad need to step up. There are (or should be) a lot of guys with something to prove coming into this tournament, so even if we are in a tougher group I think we will have a good opportunity to slip under the radar and deliver the goods or, at the least, get some strong performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr its not going to matter if SH wins the Gold Cup. I can guarantee you all that the CSA is going to do a truly thorough search for the next MNT head coach which will likely commence in earnest after WC2010 concludes. If SH wants to be considered for the job and does another good job with this GC squad, I'm sure he'll be in the mix but I've been told by senior CSA people that "the process will not be highjacked" when they look to hire their next coach. They will follow the same process that they went through with Morace and I'm very confident that there will be good candidates and many of them will be affordable. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with Morace. But her process of selection was special considering that she was initially offered the job back in October 2007! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prizby Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 forget about the good run at 2007 GC, lets not forget Canada got ripped off of at least taking the americans to extra time by some poor concacaf reffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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