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On the Southsiders board we have been getting some BC NDP banner ads that are anti BC Place's new roof. Clicking on the banner leads you to the following survey.

http://www.bcndp.ca/haveyoursay

There will be a provincial election on May 12th 2009. I urge you all to fill it out the survey using a random BC postal code (it doesn't even take 1 minute). Although all of the projects listed are noble causes, please only click on the BC Place roof for our sake.

Thank you.

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I'm trying to get an answer as to whether they'd have the legal ability to do this at this point if they were elected. It's obvious they intend to turn it into an issue. But if the contracts are signed and solid, it's just campaign rhetoric.

But it's an incredibly stupid issue for them to hang their hat on. And it speaks volumes over how inept they are to run these Google ads on soccer sites.

My head hurts from stuff like this.

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BC politics is even more insane than most, so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see an NDP government. Question though: maybe a sane person, regardless of politics, would think that $300m is quite a bit to refurbish a piece of crap ground that nobody wants in the first place. Maybe a provincial government would be able to push through a downtown stadium for the Caps, ready for 2011, funded with private monies which are clearly available? Crazy idea, I know. And then send the Lions out to Surrey where they belong. And good f'cking ridance to the home and garden and boat shows which would be better off in Surrey as well.

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I hate the NDP. NDP'ers like to spout off anti-liberal and anti Campbell rhetoric but usually have no clue what they're talking about.

They talk about how shifty Gordon Campbell is and like to talk about his drunk driving thing in Hawaii. Then they pretend they have no idea what you're talking about when you point out that there last two NDP premiers in power resigned over scandals. Mike Harcourt for the "BingoGate scandal" and Glen Clark's "CasinoGate scandal" along with his fudged budget numbers and the approximately Billion dollar write off for BC Ferries thanks to the Fast Ferry Fiasco.

I am very worried about what this next election holds, as I find BC voters seem to forget quickly about the past. The last thing we need is the NDP to kill the roof project.

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quote:Originally posted by gwallace76

I hate the NDP. NDP'ers like to spout off anti-liberal and anti Campbell rhetoric but usually have no clue what they're talking about.

They talk about how shifty Gordon Campbell is and like to talk about his drunk driving thing in Hawaii. Then they pretend they have no idea what you're talking about when you point out that there last two NDP premiers in power resigned over scandals. Mike Harcourt for the "BingoGate scandal" and Glen Clark's "CasinoGate scandal" along with his fudged budget numbers and the approximately Billion dollar write off for BC Ferries thanks to the Fast Ferry Fiasco.

I am very worried about what this next election holds, as I find BC voters seem to forget quickly about the past. The last thing we need is the NDP to kill the roof project.

When is the next election in BC??? BCers must realise that the NDP are like roaches that crawl in people's toilets. I hate them so bad.
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Most of you know me,

Personally, I don't have a hate-on for the NDP. I actually have strong beliefs on many of the issues they fight for. The great Emery Barnes was my first BC MLA (He used to play for the Lions...a big-hearted giant of a man, and I'm proud to say I voted for him). But they're hopelessly inept in actually dealing with the issues of today.

When it comes to Mike Harcourt, he's an honourable man who really had nothing to do with the "BingoGate" scandal except for the fact that he was in charge when it came to light. He took the knife to keep his party in power. I've never heard anyone utter a bad word against him beyond that.

Glen Clark? No doubt...he had to go. The fudget budget should have been enough. Fast ferries were the worst financial disaster this province has ever faced. The patio scandal would have forced most politicians into jail.

But somehow, Carole James strikes me as worse. She has no ideas or vision. She's weak and her caucus knows it. She's against major projects one day, like the Port Mann Bridge (Which I cross most days to get to work), and then she's for them, once she realizes that she wouldn't elect a single MLA south of the Fraser. Her party has chased out a lot of the experienced, moderate people who know how to compromise when it comes to running the province since the Clark era. Vancouver's mayor, Gregor Robertson, abandoned the NDP caucus to run last October and she only found out through the press the day it happened. And she's going to hang her hat on BC Place this election? Ridiculous.

This BC Place issue? Why? Why would the NDP squander what credibility it had with ACTUAL working people in Vancouver over this? I'm sure trashing BC Place might play well in Penticton.

But I doubt it will work here. And if they try it, they can expect a fight like never before.

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^Again, mate, refer to my previous post. You're making yourself look like even more of an idiot than everyone here already thinks you are. You don't know my politics and I daresay you never will. This is a football forum not a place to expose yourself as an ignoramus without even the most rudimentary grasp of first-year political science.

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quote:Originally posted by Luis_Rancagua

Listen commie jerk-off...Why don't you stick your head up your arse and die...and perhaps you could preach from inside your pathetic dream of the Paris Commune of social equality:D

One of the things I love about football is its ability to create a common bond between people who have absolutely nothing in common. I've had some of the most interesting conversations in my life with people whose values I oppose and languages I don't speak all because of football.

But I don't despise people because of their political opinion. I know people with far worse opinions of the NDP and the BC Liberals than Luis & Kotton. And that's just on their views on society as a whole, not football. Everyone's entitled to a political opinion. It's just unfortunate that one party in BC is trying to turn football (and also, Canadian gridiron football) into a major election issue.

I hate the fact that a political party in our province is about to force a lot of people to make a choice between society and football. But I don't think that someone's political opinion (as long as it's not totalitarian) should affect our discussions on football.

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quote:Originally posted by Vancouversoccerman

This BC Place issue? Why? Why would the NDP squander what credibility it had with ACTUAL working people in Vancouver over this? I'm sure trashing BC Place might play well in Penticton.

But I doubt it will work here. And if they try it, they can expect a fight like never before.

Being from Penticton, and now living in Kelowna I find myself confused here, was there a particular reason for using Penticton there? Or was it just a random example of a small city that might feel like it doesn't benefit from spending all the money on a stadium in Vancouver?

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quote:Originally posted by Vancouversoccerman

It was random, nazzer...

ok...

I would totally vote for the NDP based on them revoking the BC Place funding if it was somehow coupled with massive funding to renovate the Apple Bowl or build a new stadium in Kelowna so that we could get a USL1 team, that would be sweet.

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quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone

BC politics is even more insane than most, so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see an NDP government. Question though: maybe a sane person, regardless of politics, would think that $300m is quite a bit to refurbish a piece of crap ground that nobody wants in the first place. Maybe a provincial government would be able to push through a downtown stadium for the Caps, ready for 2011, funded with private monies which are clearly available? Crazy idea, I know. And then send the Lions out to Surrey where they belong. And good f'cking ridance to the home and garden and boat shows which would be better off in Surrey as well.

APPLAUSE!!

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Luis, is it that you want to be banned? Seriously.

The 2.5 millions of Canadians who voted for the NDP federally in 2008, roughly 18% of the electorate, sending 37 members to the House of Commons, along with myself, are curious to know.

It's 11:22 PM EST. I expect your posts to be modified and more appropriate by 9 AM EST, April 2nd.

Given your past history of ignoring e-mails you will not</u> receive one out-lining this directive.

Hoping for your sake you stop in on the site between now and then.

Cheeta

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quote:Originally posted by Cheeta

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Luis, is it that you want to be banned? Seriously.

The 2.5 millions of Canadians who voted for the NDP federally in 2008, roughly 18% of the electorate, sending 37 members to the House of Commons, along with myself, are curious to know.

It's 11:22 PM EST. I expect your posts to be modified and more appropriate by 9 AM EST, April 2nd.

Given your past history of ignoring e-mails you will not</u> receive one out-lining this directive.

Hoping for your sake you stop in on the site between now and then.

Cheeta

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Wait one minute Cheeta...This guy comes along and he insults my political views and calls me an idiot because I don't like the NDP...I'm entitle to vote for the Liberals...This is my coinstitutional right. This guy calls me an ignoramus...Hey!!! He posted the 1st insult and I'm not going to tolerate his BS. I have a right to defend myself and my integrity...The NDPers always resort to insults when you disagree with their opinions...They call everyone a fascist when they know that the debate of common sense doesn't go their way...He insulted me 1st and I have a right to defend myself...By the way, in Ontario we ousted them out because they left a huge mess of economic mismanagement. If you banned me from the forum on these grounds, then you are violating the true spirit of democratic of expression.
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Post #8 from top of page.

The NDP represent scum, low-lifeness, villainy, laziness, put people on welfare, have leaders such as Jack Layton who scams the rental system of co-ops than blast Paul Martin for privatizing health care when he himself attended a private clinic.

I can't stand these low-life communist roaches.

This isn't a debate. You do what you wish.

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