Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Richard Scott is saying no, but others are saying that it's just a matter of working out the details: http://www.24thminute.com/2009/03/dale-mitchell-to-be-re-assigned.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Crack the champagne folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 You just made my day. One question, if the CSA denies it, then could you give us an idea of a possible other source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltfc91 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 3 and a half years until World Cup qualifiers for 2014... looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I'll believe it when it's announced. But I'm with CSF: I definitely have got a bottle of champagne chilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Alex You just made my day. One question, if the CSA denies it, then could you give us an idea of a possible other source? I have to be careful because I won't get any more info from them if I say too much. I'm working very hard right now to get someone on record (which will allow me to report this in traditional media). I’ll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by MediaGuy Richard Scott is saying no, but others are saying that it's just a matter of working out the details: http://www.24thminute.com/2009/03/dale-mitchell-to-be-re-assigned.html It has been suggested to the 24th Minute that Mitchell's new duties will involve working to improve the CSA's coaching development programs. Isn't that part of the technical director's (Hart's) duties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 If Hart's moving to manage the team, obviously he's going to have to give up his other responsibilities. And I think it's obviously going to be Hart if anyone: the CSA may be doing the right thing, but they're never going to pay two staffers when they can get away with paying one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 Shot in the dark, but...since I know they lurk here. Boys, it is time to go on record. It is all lined up and ready to go to print tomorrow or Tuesday. If you are worried about Dale being embarrassed, well, this does nothing to his legacy as a player. And we are not out to hang the man, we just want our national team to have a chance to perform to its abilities -- and clearly that was not happening. 647-408-7764. I will be up to 3 a.m. eastern. My name is Duane Rollins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by MediaGuy Shot in the dark, but...since I know they lurk here. Boys, it is time to go on record. It is all lined up and ready to go to print tomorrow or Tuesday. If you are worried about Dale being embarrassed, well, this does nothing to his legacy as a player. And we are not out to hang the man, we just want our national team to have a chance to perform to its abilities -- and clearly that was not happening. 647-408-7764. I will be up to 3 a.m. eastern. My name is Duane Rollins. Dale should be sent to T&T to work with Even Pelerud, wc can make it part of a Goal project donation and get props from the next FIFA president Jack Warner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Lord Bob If Hart's moving to manage the team, obviously he's going to have to give up his other responsibilities. And I think it's obviously going to be Hart if anyone: the CSA may be doing the right thing, but they're never going to pay two staffers when they can get away with paying one. I just wanted to see if others had the same feeling when I asked my original question. Right now, it looks like that's the plan: a job switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtl-supporter23 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 DAMN who are we going to blame the Gold Cup and 2014 WCQ campaign on now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA I wouldn't want to be one of those coaches getting "improve" by Dale [xx(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigzTFC Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 This is the best possible scenario. Mitchell wasn't going to quit. I mean how many coaching jobs in Canada are there that pay that much....one. The real question is what was stated in his original contract and what the CSA has learned from this. 1) Use a termination clause FFS - not qualifying, not getting out the round robin for instance 2) Hire someone with a winning international coaching background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by mtl-supporter23 DAMN who are we going to blame the Gold Cup and 2014 WCQ campaign on now?? Bingo. No win situation. -No CSA money to lure high profile coaches. -No proper training facilities. -Players scattered all over the world -A national stadium that has field turf, and generally has a louder contingent of enemy supporters for WCQers. -Nothing to do in between friendlies and qualifiers. -Who's going to take that kind of job? -Dale Mitchell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Trillium Dale should be sent to T&T to work with Even Pelerud, wc can make it part of a Goal project donation and get props from the next FIFA president Jack Warner. T&T could become the exile island where we send all our bad coaches and managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Scott gave his White House Press secretary-style standard response: "Dale is our men's head coach - so that includes friendly in May vs Cyprus, other friendlies/training camps that are always part of planning process, plus upcoming CONCACAF Gold Cup for which we have just learned venues (draw yet TBA)". I'm just curious as to when the decision to sack...er, reassign, Mitchell was finally decided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Pretty unambiguous. Somebody is blowing smoke up somebody, anyway. If Scott is just trying to spare Mitchell the blow of hearing it from the media rather than the CSA, he's probably doing more harm than good for his manager. I don't care how lousy a job he's been, as long as he's not actually smacking around Julian De Guzman with a lead pipe during practices he'd at least deserve to be told to his face what the score is before any leaks hit. Personally, with no inside information at all, I think Mitchell's staying on. This doesn't seem the CSA's style, and lying straight to everyone's faces like this would just come back to haunt them too quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto Ruffrider Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Calgary Boomer Bingo. No win situation. -No CSA money to lure high profile coaches. -No proper training facilities. -Players scattered all over the world -A national stadium that has field turf, and generally has a louder contingent of enemy supporters for WCQers. -Nothing to do in between friendlies and qualifiers. -Who's going to take that kind of job? -Dale Mitchell. Technically BMO has only hosted one WCQer, and the crowd at that game was easily pro-Canadian. Sorry to nitpick, but even a dark and gloomy grey sky can be broken by a patch of sunlight here or there. As for upcoming MNT competitions, I could care less about the prospect of us losing without adequate excuses. The only thing that matters is winning, and Dale Mitchell being reassigned is a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Toronto Ruffrider Technically BMO has only hosted one WCQer, and the crowd at that game was easily pro-Canadian. Sorry to nitpick, but even a dark and gloomy grey sky can be broken by a patch of sunlight here or there. I will agree that it was pro-Canadian, but I still think we have to do better. There were far too many Jamaicans there. All you had to do was listen to the anthems to realize that we still have a long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Our friend from Argentina posted not too long ago about Pekerman still being linked with the CMNT coaching job. Is there any chance this might happen? Yes, removing Mitchell is a positive step and Hart had a good run at the Gold Cup. But going back to Hart is not the answer. We need an outsider with a long term vision for our National Team. The CSA made a good move hiring Morace for the women. They need to make a bold move here as well. Our players play for decent sized clubs all over the world...then they come back to Canada and play for a manager with no experience or pedigree. In my opinion, a big name is almost more important than the tactics of the manager. We need somebody that will catch the attention of our players and make them realize that we are not ****ting around any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by masster Our friend from Argentina posted not too long ago about Pekerman still being linked with the CMNT coaching job. Is there any chance this might happen? Nevermind, it looks as though he is now in charge of Tigres. When did this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbrad Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I hate to be negative, but, I'll believe it when I see it. Having said that - I'm still putting a voodoo doll under my pillow and sacrificing a chicken just in case it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I really hope this happens. Anything to get rid of Dale Mitchell - really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Lord Bob Pretty unambiguous. Somebody is blowing smoke up somebody, anyway. .... Personally, with no inside information at all, I think Mitchell's staying on. This doesn't seem the CSA's style, and lying straight to everyone's faces like this would just come back to haunt them too quickly. I'm pretty sure Mitch knows exactly what's going on, because if this rumour proves true, I'd bet the house he's been negotiating the terms of his exit as MNT manager all winter. And that's just it. As much as Mitchell's removal would normally prove a huge, positive, victory for certain parties within the administration and on the BoD, I'm skeptical of the real value this type of victory holds. If I'm right, a negotiated re-assignment is still a half victory but it's hard to see any value beyond that. Typical backroom CSA stuff. The Job-for-Life crowd, the Entitlement Gang looks after one of their own while allowing for a public slap on the wrist. You know, just to keep everyone happy. In fairness to Mitch though, he may prove a far better tech director than senior manager. Different skill set odviously but I'm quite sure he has the ability to nurse along a good many of the coaches in Canada towards the next level as it were. Where they go from there is down to them. If he's willing to stay on at the CSA in a new capacity and can serve a useful purpose (within his abilities of course) I think it's well worth swapping the last year of his contract as MNT coach for some longer term security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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