TT5 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'm sure this has been a heated debate in time past, but thought I would being it up again being a new member to the board... I know most people want Dale Mitchell out as coach, so who would you like to be the coach of the Mens national team? Does he have to be Canadian? And be realistic, the CSA isn't going to drop $20 million dollars or whatever it will take to get Sir Alex Ferguson. I think someone like Montreal's Nick De Santis deserves a shot if you want to stay Canadian. Shown he has it takes to coach at the club level and is running a quality program in Montreal. Although I question whether a Canadian would be stupid enough to take the job anymore after Yallop and Mitchell failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Nierdof or Hart both have better understanding of the game. better recognition of talents n better tacticians both would have done much better than mitchel with the u 20 sqaud that had ample time n matches to be competive both failed miserably with zero goal scored. out of those two teams mitchel got an impressive combined total of 2 points out of a possible 27. enough to justify that he keep coaching our flagship team. to new lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I would hope we would look at non-Canadians for the job as well. Look around the best countries have not all been coached by a fellow countrymen they are coache dby the best poossible candidate avaiable willing to take the job no matter what his nationality. don't have to look any further than Euro 2008 and the job Hiddink did with Russia. I would hope Canada seeks out canidates from all over the globe to try fill the job if we only look in our own backyard then its gonna be a lazy and uncreative or ambitious move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 quote:Originally posted by TheKottonmouthed I would hope we would look at non-Canadians for the job as well. Look around the best countries have not all been coached by a fellow countrymen they are coache dby the best poossible candidate avaiable willing to take the job no matter what his nationality. don't have to look any further than Euro 2008 and the job Hiddink did with Russia. I would hope Canada seeks out canidates from all over the globe to try fill the job if we only look in our own backyard then its gonna be a lazy and uncreative or ambitious move. It's too bad we don't have any money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Realistically? Holger Osieck. He's the only person that might be a step up that we might be able to get cheaply. Otherwise let Hart handle things until a proper search could take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I know this is taking the thread on a tangent, but since Mitchell has the gig until 2010, what will it take for the CSA to say "enough's enough" and sack him before the end of his term? Right now, I don't even think a really embarrassing GC performance this summer will change things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA I know this is taking the thread on a tangent, but since Mitchell has the gig until 2010, what will it take for the CSA to say "enough's enough" and sack him before the end of his term? Right now, I don't even think a really embarrassing GC performance this summer will change things. Every single B.C. board member being replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 quote:Originally posted by TT5 I think someone like Montreal's Nick De Santis deserves a shot if you want to stay Canadian. Shown he has it takes to coach at the club level and is running a quality program in Montreal. Sorry to be blunt but as one of the biggest Impact supporters you are either Nick De Santis himself or completely clueless. Mitchell should go but don't replace him with someone 10 times worse. De Santis has done a decent job so far as Impact technical director but before that he showed us for 4 years what a terrible coach he was. Most of the rest of the teams in the USL during these years were so terrible that as the big budget team we won by default just because our players were better. His numerous deficiencies were ignored because we still managed to win. Last year the USL finally reached a point where all the teams had decent budgets and decent players and we saw very clearly the true level of coaching ability De Santis possessed. If we want to consider a Canadian, Limniatis seems to be the obvious choice. He is far superior coach to De Santis and has achieved far more in one year than De Santis did in 4. I am not saying he should be our national team coach but he seems to be the top Canadian candidate at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I think Mitch has already been shown the door under terms (officially or unofficially) allowing for a more graceful exit. Probably some time this fall unless something dramatic occurs with the BoD. His being kept on is all about the politics in the board room. Which if true, is all the more reason to continue highlighting this regiment of patronage and entitlement which infects certain quarters of the CSA. Limniatis? Don't know. Managing a club team and a NT are two completely different creatures. He does seem to have a good sense for the strengths and limits of players and under what conditions those qualities **** or shine. Is also a very motivational coach odviously but I'm not sure his motivational technique would translate too well to the international stage. And besides, at this point in his career it probably wouldn't be in his best interest to pursue a Canadian NT gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I think we have to look around the globe for a coach, the homebrew thing has proven not to work! As far as what Mitchell could possibly do to hasten his exit, who knows, if his current record isn't enough I don't think they'll ever get rid of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regs Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 quote:Every single B.C. board member being replaced.You're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 isn't it sad the coaches of our 3 pro club teams are all much better/ in an entirely different league than the head coach of our national program?? I would take any of Thordarson, Carver, and Limniatis over Mitchell in a heartbeat. I would welcome the return of Holger. Pekerman would be a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan isn't it sad the coaches of our 3 pro club teams are all much better/ in an entirely different league than the head coach of our national program?? I would take any of Thordarson, Carver, and Limniatis over Mitchell in a heartbeat. I would welcome the return of Holger. Pekerman would be a miracle. Your opinion of Carver is much higher than mine. No CONCACAF experience. Let me repeat, no CONCACAF experience. He regularily blows a gasket over MLS officiating and 'gamemanship' we see by Central American players. And you are suggesting he could lead us in a qualifying campaign? Hardly. Limniatis would be a much better choice than Carver in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i do think Carver would have gotten us to the hex. he is a leader. he is a commanding voice in the dressing room and has enough spine to send a prima donna player home or show him the bench. tactically, yea we would have been playing cookie cutter 4-4-2 direct football, but maybe that wouldnt have been such a bad thing with our group of players. not sure if i would pick limniatis over carver. at least carver has plenty of do-or-die managing experience in various levels of the english game. limniatis has had one good year with the impact, thats about it. Limniatis could be a great choice, but i'd like to see him prove himself at MLS level first. i'd take Teitur over both, and i'd take holger over teitur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Sorry, but Carver has virtually no 'do or die' coaching experience at any level in England. He only coached a handful of games, in a caretaker mode. I will stand by my call on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Regs You're an idiot. Or idiot savant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Scolari FTW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'll throw some name brand French managers that are currently available and possibly affordable (ie. equal or less than $750K that Pekerman is asking for): Henri Michel - France, FFF TD, PSG, Cameroon, Morocco, Cote D'Ivoire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Michel Aime Jacquet - Bordeaux, France (WC 98 title), FFF TD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aim%C3%A9_Jacquet Philippe Trousier - Nigeria, Japan, Qatar, Marseille, Morocco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Troussier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Regs You're an idiot. What because I'm pointing out that B.C. blocked Mitchell's firing? Allegedly, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regs Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 No, because you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Regs No, because you're an idiot. You're a real wordsmith, aren't you? Dale Mitchell still has his job because of nepotism. His power is in B.C. Do the damn math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regs Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Wordsmith? There's really only so many ways in order say you're an idiot. And by my math, that would be one. Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Regs Wordsmith? There's really only so many ways in order say you're an idiot. And by my math, that would be one. Idiot. After you finish looking up that one, look up irony. Calling someone an idiot because you disagree with them kinda makes you one. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Ed Sorry, but Carver has virtually no 'do or die' coaching experience at any level in England. He only coached a handful of games, in a caretaker mode. I will stand by my call on that. I'll second that one, and i really haven't seen enough of him at TFC to suggest he's got the ability to pull the strings for the NT. Huff and puff will only take you so far. I want to see what he does with the club this year and if he can be more effective now that he has better tools. Despite some bs you might read elsewhere, we got outcoached a handful of times last year. The concacaf experience is a bit of bs though. If you're a good coach, you should be able to adapt to your environment and do your homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regs Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 quote:After you finish looking up that one, look up irony.Priceless. Reread my post. Slowly. And again. Still don't get it? well, one word... I call you an idiot because you spew garbage that you have absolutely no clue about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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