Its Called Football Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 In what may be the final nail in his bid for a 2011 MLS franchise, Eugene Melnyk, owner of the Ottawa Senators and founder of Biovail Corp. has agreed to pay a civil fine of $1,000,001 in a case brought against the drugmaker over their accounting practices. Read more here http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/blog/post/176587 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Boy Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 maybe he can ask to only pay 39 million for the expansion fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The author of the article got a few things wrong: Biovail and not Mr. Melnyk settled with the SEC last spring for $10 million. Mr. Melnyk settled with the SEC in the US for failing to properly disclose his shareholdings, not in relation to accounting fraud. Mr. Melnyk remain subject to potential sanctions from the Ontario Securities Commission. On another note, and perhaps more interestingly, Mr. Melnyk has sold roughly US$37 million in Biovail shares since December for "other investment opportunities as they arise". Perhaps the MLS expansion fee? http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/story/CNW.20090203.C5412/GIStory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex M Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The MLS were fully aware of Melnyk's issues with the SEC. This has been ongoing for quite a while now and the fine was to end it. No wrong doing or guilt was ever admitted. This will have no effect on whether or not Eugene gets a new toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 If anything it helps, Melnyk made millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Final nail my ass! It didn't overly hurt this guy's multi-franchise ownership. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/us/news/2003/05/14/anschutz_suit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Final nail my ass! It didn't overly hurt this guy's multi-franchise ownership. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/us/news/2003/05/14/anschutz_suit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 ^ Indeed. Among the newly rich an SEC investigation is likely a sign that you have made it. I don't think it will impact his bid. As I stated in another thread, I think the bid will fail because all his money is tied up in the Senators and Biovail stock (he now holds 11% of the company having sold about 18% of his personal holdings in the last month and is unlikely to dip below 10% if he wants retain any influence on the company). For what is is worth, the NHL suspended (whatever that means) the owner of the Ducks upon his being convicted of lying to the SEC. http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2008/06/24/NHL_suspends_Anaheim_Ducks_owner_Samueli/UPI-36431214346493/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex M Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The above story about Samueli is probably one of the reasons they reached this settlement. Melnyk has not admitted guilt and has not been convicted of lying. This is the equivalent of Cowpland paying 10million dollars in fines to his own holdings company. In other words, it's a token gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Impact Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Danny Boy maybe he can ask to only pay 39 million for the expansion fee? Or maybe he could actually be stupid enough to dish out $40 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 The issue here is the optics of the fine. MLS will steer WAY wide of this kind of thing. The final nail came long before this though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawasoccerfan Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Calgary Boomer Can you tell me how the final nail came long before this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Yes. The final nail is the fact that the application is from OTTAWA...a market that most North Americans couldn't find on a map. Ottawa has never been, nor will never be an MLS city. Garber and Co. have been going through the motions to create demand for the markets they really want. Sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawasoccerfan Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Calgary Boomer Why do you hate ottawa so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 ^ Westerners, especially the rightwing ones, hate Ottawa on principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Actually it may even be genetic in BC. But it's harmless, almost like talking about the weather. BC'ers are generally some of the greatest Canadians you can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 quote:Westerners, especially the rightwing ones, hate Ottawa on principle. Hate is a bit strong. As a non-right wing, federalist, centrist, I would say, inherently distrust is a more apt description. Plus the Riders / Renegades debacle over the years doesn't help the perception nationally about Ottawa sports fans. All that being said, it would be great if Ottawa got an MLS team over some mid-level US city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Calgary Boomer The issue here is the optics of the fine. MLS will steer WAY wide of this kind of thing. The final nail came long before this though... Well interesting that Calgary has no team in any league, and of course when the MLS pres came to Ottawa he did get to meet senators .. which Americans love. Dont worry no one in Calgary thought Ottawa would get in the NHL, and they did, the secret weapon is still able to be pulled out .. the one that charmed the NHL so much they gave a underfunded group a NHL franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Hilarious. I have nothing against Ottawa. Do you seriously think that I'd be miserable if Ottawa got a team? It's got nothing to do with liking or hating Ottawa, or being a bitter Westerner. It's just plain fact...and while I'm not going to divulge any sources here, Ottawa is NOT an MLS city. Montreal will get an MLS franchise before Ottawa. Comparing Ottawa's NHL expansion team to this one is a total apples and oranges argument. Ottawa has NEVER proven itself as a soccer city. I was in an EMPTY Frank Clair stadium for more than one CONCACAF event. Ottawa hasn't been able to support the CFL. It's just NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Not a wish, a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex M Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Calgary Boomer Hilarious. I have nothing against Ottawa. Do you seriously think that I'd be miserable if Ottawa got a team? It's got nothing to do with liking or hating Ottawa, or being a bitter Westerner. It's just plain fact...and while I'm not going to divulge any sources here, Ottawa is NOT an MLS city. Montreal will get an MLS franchise before Ottawa. Comparing Ottawa's NHL expansion team to this one is a total apples and oranges argument. Ottawa has NEVER proven itself as a soccer city. I was in an EMPTY Frank Clair stadium for more than one CONCACAF event. Ottawa hasn't been able to support the CFL. It's just NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Not a wish, a fact. Other than the u20 wc, when is the last time Ottawa hosted a major soccer event? Recent history shows that people come out to watch soccer matches here in Ottawa, whether you want to admit it or not. 1.2million people in the region, a brand new facility and stable ownership = win. And for the record, the Riders drew large crowds before shoddy ownership and poor football tookover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 And how about Corporate sponsorship? And television rights? MLS does not want to go to Ottawa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex M Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 What about them? Last I checked, there was more than 1 Canadian television network in Canada and corporate sponsorship is hard to come by in any city these days. Cross promotion is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Alex M Other than the u20 wc, when is the last time Ottawa hosted a major soccer event? Recent history shows that people come out to watch soccer matches here in Ottawa, whether you want to admit it or not. Not so sure about that. About 1500 people showed up to watch a Canada-US U20 friendly 2 weeks before the start of the U20 WC. I think Ottawa has a history of supporting top class soccer. The big question is whether or not the Ottawa public will consider MLS "top class". I think the debate could go either way on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 quote:Originally posted by El Hombre Not so sure about that. About 1500 people showed up to watch a Canada-US U20 friendly 2 weeks before the start of the U20 WC. I think Ottawa has a history of supporting top class soccer. The big question is whether or not the Ottawa public will consider MLS "top class". I think the debate could go either way on that one. The CSA made a mess of the U-20 friendly. There was almost zero promotion done for that game. None of Canada's “Big Guns” were playing, and it was scheduled for the middle of the afternoon. Conversely, the CSA did a great job advertising for a Canada vs. Brazil women’s international friendly back in the Summer of 2003 and over 18 thousand people turned out. http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2003/07/21/cdasoccer030721.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Alex M What about them? Last I checked, there was more than 1 Canadian television network in Canada and corporate sponsorship is hard to come by in any city these days. Cross promotion is a wonderful thing. What exactly does that mean? You're saying that a local TV carrier (like Global) would be willing to pay large sums of money to carry Ottawa MLS games, which would be sponsored by which corporate entities? Cross Nortel off that list. What are some of the other BIG corporates in that region that aren't already with the Senators? The Federal Government doesn't count by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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