Sam Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^added a little footnote on the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Wagenaar is getting too much love here. Neither he nor Begovic (who is the better of the two) are ready for prime time. The GK position is Lars' to lose. We don't want to throw in the towel before we even hit the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Ed Wagenaar is getting too much love here. Neither he nor Begovic (who is the better of the two) are ready for prime time. The GK position is Lars' to lose. We don't want to throw in the towel before we even hit the field. Agree that Lars should be the starter but my point was that I would favor Josh over Asmir in the pecking order. If one poster opinion is too much love well yes Josh is getting too much. Most people on this board used to say that Wagenaar didn't have the talent to make it as a pro, so can't see him as a V's favourite. Lars was a PDL keeper in 2002 when he started in the GC, Sutton a USL keeper in 2005, so I wouldn't have a problem with giving Asmir or Josh some games prior to the GC. If they are up to the task, why not starting one of them for the GC? BTW Jeffrey S., who's missing? Kenny S.? Jim Larkin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^Although Lars would be my top choice, I would call Wagenaar over Sutton to back up because Josh is doing something we haven't seen from a Canadian keeper in a long time: his performances are inspiring his club to win matches. Yeovil were awful, and Wagenaar's play has really contributed to the turn around. And good for him, as I was definitely in that camp that didn't rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan I know that the Gold Cup is important, but WC2014 should be the goal here. I wouldn't mind seeing what the next generation can do. ---------Ornoch--Jackson Simpson------Johnson------Nakajima -------------Jakovic deJong--Hainault--Edgar--Ledgerwood -------------Begovic F: Gala M: Peters, Hemming, Rosenlund D: Nana, KOA G: Wagenaar, Stillo That lineup is a little weak for me you can still go development style and have some of our established players. I personally would like to see Lars Stalteri-Edgar-Mckenna-Hainault Peters-DeRo-Hutchinson-DeGuzman Friend-Hume Bench Jackson Oronoch Nana Nakajima Johnson Begovic de jong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Based on my understanding of the situation I anticipate that this will be Canada's line-up at the Gold Cup: Dolan - Lenarduzzi, Bridge, Samuel, Wilson - Norman, James, Ragan, Sweeney Vrablic, Valentine I'm not sure anyone else will show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 quote:Originally posted by TheKottonmouthed That lineup is a little weak for me you can still go development style and have some of our established players. I personally would like to see Lars Stalteri-Edgar-Mckenna-Hainault Peters-DeRo-Hutchinson-DeGuzman Friend-Hume Bench Jackson Oronoch Nana Nakajima Johnson Begovic de jong Will Hume be ready in time for GC? My understanding is that he probably won't. But I don't see Ali G on your roster, so he could be slid into that spot easily enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 quote:Originally posted by leafdolfan elaborate - I mentioned Lars, Pat and Greg. Plus the u-20, and u-23 guys... I am not allowed to elaborate, folks will jump on me for mentioning him. No, seriously, in preseason Srdjan is doing as well as Jordan for the Impact, the same way his stats were better than any of the others at TFC. If the latter starts regularly, Sutton needs to stay at TFC, and any of the Euro keepers is not game, then he has a chance. Especially because Mitchell respects him and trusts in him. I'd put Sutton and Lars first, that is the right call-up. Begovic and Wagenaar in there after, and to be fair both probably need to get games; and then Serge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 quote:Originally posted by MediaGuy Based on my understanding of the situation I anticipate that this will be Canada's line-up at the Gold Cup: Dolan - Lenarduzzi, Bridge, Samuel, Wilson - Norman, James, Ragan, Sweeney Vrablic, Valentine I'm not sure anyone else will show up. :DLOL! I can't believe you left out the possibility of Mitchell serving as a player/manager, Dalglish style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 quote:Originally posted by TheKottonmouthed That lineup is a little weak for me you can still go development style and have some of our established players. I personally would like to see Lars Stalteri-Edgar-Mckenna-Hainault Peters-DeRo-Hutchinson-DeGuzman Friend-Hume Bench Jackson Oronoch Nana Nakajima Johnson Begovic de jong Hainault at left back? ew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 How anyone could put someone other than Klukowski at left back is beyond me, he is only 27 and was one of our best players in the last qualifying cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. I am not allowed to elaborate, folks will jump on me for mentioning him. No, seriously, in preseason Srdjan is doing as well as Jordan for the Impact, the same way his stats were better than any of the others at TFC. If the latter starts regularly, Sutton needs to stay at TFC, and any of the Euro keepers is not game, then he has a chance. Especially because Mitchell respects him and trusts in him. I'd put Sutton and Lars first, that is the right call-up. Begovic and Wagenaar in there after, and to be fair both probably need to get games; and then Serge. Agree, we should be talking about Srdjan before even mentionning Monsalve. As for Lars and Sutton, I can't see both accepting the call. I mean Sutton won't come just to sit on the bench while his club team is playing games. So, it will be either 2 youngsters or 1 veteran starting and 1 youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I would call the following 20: ...........Hirschfeld Ledgerwood...McKenna...Serioux...Klukowski ...DeGuzman..........Hutchinson DeRosario......Johnson........Simpson ..............Friend Subs: Wagenaar, Begovic, Hainault, Edgar, Nakajima-Farran, DeJong, Gerba, Jackson, Nsaliwa (if eligible). If healthy, I would also call Hume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Obinna Hainault at left back? ew he isnt incompentant at the LB spot and I really would like to see him apart of the squad but don't think he is ready to be CB. He has good enough pace for the wing back spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 What's the point of having him in the left back spot if his future is at CB? Also, how could you justify having him start at LB over De Jong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Obinna What's the point of having him in the left back spot if his future is at CB? Also, how could you justify having him start at LB over De Jong? Not to mention Klukowski, who is our best option at LB and young enough that he could still contribute in qualifying for 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I would like to see the following ---------Lars/Sutton---------- Stalteri---McKenna--Serioux---Kulkowski Hutch---Imoff---JDG-----DeRo ----Friend-------Gerba-------- Subs Issey Hainaunlt De Jong Jackson Hume(if healthy) Johnson Ledgerwood Edgar Jakovic Simpson Bernier I think this is the time to include the youth into the squad, AND give them significant minutes, but let them earn their starting roles. Players like Radz, Onstead and Hastings should all be finished. It's important to gradually bring the youth in, for the sake of their development, and for the sake of maintaining cohesion in the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Obinna What's the point of having him in the left back spot if his future is at CB? Also, how could you justify having him start at LB over De Jong? Yea your right you made your point. Dejong or Kluks would be our most effecient options for LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 The second of my Gold Cup previews looking at domestic players who could make the squad http://canadianstretty.blogspot.com/2009/03/canadas-2009-gold-cup-countdown.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 quote:Originally posted by leafdolfan The second of my Gold Cup previews looking at domestic players who could make the squad http://canadianstretty.blogspot.com/2009/03/canadas-2009-gold-cup-countdown.html How about Will Johnston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devioustrevor Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Ivan I would call the following 20: ...........Hirschfeld Ledgerwood...McKenna...Serioux...Klukowski ...DeGuzman..........Hutchinson DeRosario......Johnson........Simpson ..............Friend Subs: Wagenaar, Begovic, Hainault, Edgar, Nakajima-Farran, DeJong, Gerba, Jackson, Nsaliwa (if eligible). If healthy, I would also call Hume. I actually like the looks of that line-up. All three attacking middies are also proven forwards. We could play a situational fluid formation that could effectively alternate between a 4-5-1 and a 4-2-4 or anything in between as situations require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 No. Just No. We have already learned that deGuz and Hutch as defensive mids doesnt work. Julian pushes forward too much and Hutch subsequently cant handle the defensive duties. We need real defensive mids in there. Imhof, Grande, Serioux, Ledgerwood. Hutchinson is a winger. When deGuz puts on the Red shirt he thinks he's Zidane. We have to accept these facts and move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan No. Just No. We have already learned that deGuz and Hutch as defensive mids doesnt work. Julian pushes forward too much and Hutch subsequently cant handle the defensive duties. We need real defensive mids in there. Imhof, Grande, Serioux, Ledgerwood. Hutchinson is a winger. When deGuz puts on the Red shirt he thinks he's Zidane. We have to accept these facts and move forward. I'll second that emotion. Regardless of the formation, we need a better dedicated defensive presence in front of the back four, someone with the positional sense, tackling skills, and wheels to provide a roadblock (or, at the very least a significant speed bump) to an opponent's swift counter-attack attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 ^I completely agree! Why couldn't Dale figure this out? Imhof needed to play in the DM role, then he was hurt I think and unavailable! deGuz was doing whatever he wanted and for the most part it didn't work! Anyways, this is old news, let's move forward! Imhof or one of the others mentioned must play in the DM role and we must bring in some new guys such as Johnson! I don't have a lot of hope of getting it right as long as Mitchell is running (ruining) the show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 quote:Originally posted by gator ^I completely agree! Why couldn't Dale figure this out? Imhof needed to play in the DM role, then he was hurt I think and unavailable! deGuz was doing whatever he wanted and for the most part it didn't work! Anyways, this is old news, let's move forward! Imhof or one of the others mentioned must play in the DM role and we must bring in some new guys such as Johnson! I don't have a lot of hope of getting it right as long as Mitchell is running (ruining) the show! Well, as I stated earlier in the thread, I still believe we are going to have a significant number of no shows with DM remaining at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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