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why doesn't Vancouver,Montreal and Ottawa jus invest each of their 30 million dollers into the CSL.

They should each by 3 teams for 10 million dollers and invest through that,once they have made back the 10 million from each 3 teams they bought they can sell those 3 teams to deep pockets for the 10 million so they have their money back.

thats 9 teams for 90 million dollers plus Montreal,Vancouver and Ottawa, makes a league of 12 teams,which is bigger the the A-league

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They would get more return on their investment by buying 90 million dollars worth of beer, drinking it, and returning the empties for a refund. You are seriously kookoo if you think anybody would make money (let alone their 3 x 10 million each) on 9 CSL teams.

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quote:Originally posted by Ed

They would get more return on their investment by buying 90 million dollars worth of beer, drinking it, and returning the empties for a refund. You are seriously kookoo if you think anybody would make money (let alone their 3 x 10 million each) on 9 CSL teams.

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North Korea just got gold and silver in Women's U17 and U20 from a league with too small a market, too little interest, and a lack of internationals. Same can be said for half the countries in Africa in the men's game. Do people think we'll ever be anyone or anywhere riding the American's asses by being a sliver in leagues that are slanted for them and against us? And even if we had more than the three teams we have now, we don't play Canadians on them anyway. How much friggin worse can it be? Seriously. You don't see Northern Ireland playing in the English leagues. Every small country in Europe has their own league.

If money is your motivation you've already lost.

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We seem to get caught up in this debate a lot. The bottom line IMO is that Canada still doesn't have enough interest outside of a few cities to make a national league an attractive option. There simply wouldn't be enough ROI to justify business people commiting the resources and it would fail to capture people's imagination. Money might not be our motivation, but for anybody who's actually going to commit money to this damn thing, it will be. We can't run it as a charity.

The biggest obsitcle i think we still face is finding the talent at an earlier age (12-18 area) and get it into an environment where they play competitive games on a regular basis and get high quality training. Evidentially, once we can pit the best of what we have against each other, we'll start seeing a better grade of player who is ready to make the transition to a professional environment.

I don't think you necessarily need full-blown pro clubs to do this, but you need something better organized (and more exclusive) than what we have right now.

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I hope to see new PDL teams popping up in this country. If other cities can follow the Whitecaps's model of having a prospects (Super-Y League team(s)) system that feeds into a PDL team, the growth of players in this country would grow by leaps and bounds. Also, hopefully the CSA's plan of having the provincial associations regulate the trade off between training and playing games for the 6 - 12 age groups will fully come in to effect. I know that the Saskatchewan Soccer Association is gearing up to put that model in to effect.

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I don't think it's an illogical idea...even if it is idealistic. Despite not qualifying for the WC during the CSL years, we were actually closer to a berth in the big show than we have been in the current set-up.

There's 120 million between the 3 principles...which would be enough to build modest stadiums in the markets without, and even a modest operating budget for each team. Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa and ideally Toronto would still be the glamour teams, and Canadians would make up the majority of the rosters.

If making money is the goal, this is not the way to go. If qualifying for the World Cup, and increasing the standard on our soil is the objective...it's actually a pretty good argument.

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Dream on fellas because that's all it will be for the foreseeable future, a dream. How many times have we been down this road, debating a Canadian league? Professional sport is a business first and foremost and there simply is no supportable business case for a reincarnated CSL (and I don't mean that Ontario based outfit) which is why it isn't happening. It has been studied every which way and all the business studies have reached the same conclusion.

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Look at the the Republic of Ireland, soccer is their 4th or 5th sport? They have a league where hopefuls are grabbed up by Scottish and English clubs often at high levels. They also have a population roughly the size of greater Montreal. I don't think a Canadian league would not work in Canada (financial reasons considered), I feel it's the lack of motivation to get it going that's the real obstacle.

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^If you're suggesting that a Canadian national soccer league is viable because the CIS manages it, you're even more out to lunch than you initially appeared. The CIS plays in a series of regional leagues with a national championship at the end. They also don't pay their players. It's apples and oranges, mate.

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Because the CIS manages it? Where in God's name did you get that from? My point was/is we have a Canadian league, but BC is so "distinct" they have no interest anyway.

We have more people in an area the size countries all over the world do it. Yet we can't do it because of our size. Good logic.

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quote:Originally posted by SthMelbRed

^one word for you mate, geography. You can drive from one end of Ireland to the other in a few hours. Driving from Vancouver to the next city of any note takes a full day.

With how crappy BC ferries is these days it might take all day to get to Victoria

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Hockey is Canadian. The NHL is Canadian. We exported the game to the sunny States for crying out loud. We are a victim of our own success, and if we brought the game back to the country it would be a Hell of a lot better for our culture, the game and real fans.

We even have a GREAT and hugely successful JUNIOR hockey league.

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quote:Originally posted by Vic

Hockey is Canadian. The NHL is Canadian. We exported the game to the sunny States for crying out loud. We are a victim of our own success, and if we brought the game back to the country it would be a Hell of a lot better for our culture, the game and real fans.

We even have a GREAT and hugely successful JUNIOR hockey league.

This is true. the NHL is supported mostly from within Canada PLUS we have 3 very popular Junior leagues which all draw crowds.

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