N-A Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Fifa has sent out a letter inviting eligible associations to bid for 2018 and 2022 WC's 145 are eligible for 2018 and 198 for 2022 http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federation/releases/newsid=997487.html#2018+2022+bidding+begins There is also a PDF circular on the above link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 quote:Originally posted by N-A Fifa has sent out a letter inviting eligible associations to bid for 2018 and 2022 WC's 145 are eligible for 2018 and 198 for 2022 http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federation/releases/newsid=997487.html#2018+2022+bidding+begins There is also a PDF circular on the above link. Spain seems to have latched onto this in a serious way, who knows why. I think it has to do with politicians needing projects to sell way off in the future. And perhaps a way of indirectly building on the Madrid Olympic bid(s), which will raise profile internationally though probably fail for 2016 (has to leave Europe, and with Chicago getting Obama's support a tough one anyways), may be an option for 2020. So the World Cup would bolster that as well. And the odd thing is that they are talking about doing it jointly with Portugal, even though when it comes to stadiums it would not be necessary. It would be a way to make the bid more attractive, by adding a country that has not hosted but recently did a Eurocup and upgraded stadiums. And Portugal has small but perhaps helpfully favourable voting block, including odd nations in Africa that may support them, that would strengthen the bid vs. other voting blocks. Spain-Portugal gets Latin American votes as long as there is no other S. American bid, and gets Mediterranean votes. Not the Anglo blocks, not Asian necessarily, not northern Europe. Part of Africa. A viable bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-A Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Along with a Spain and Portugal bid for 2018 other bids from England, Australia, Qatar, the United States, Russia, and a joint Belgium-Netherlands are expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I think the 2018 games are England’s to loss. But Spain-Portugal might be a dark horse. The Portuguese FA president Gilbert Madill has lots of friends in Uefa and Fifa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTL_4_LIFE Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Qatar wants 2018 or 2022 world cup. http://www.goal.com/en/news/16/world-cup/2009/01/27/1079656/qatar-want-2018-world-cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-A Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 England, a Spain and Portugal joint bid, Russia, Japan, Qatar and Indonesia have all registered interest in hosting. Australia, United States, Mexico, Belgium and Holland joint application are looking likely to bid before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Spanish president was just in Portugal and it seems they have not formalized, typical probs coordinating two national agendas. Not sure but in any case it is early still. Spain needs to redo a few stadiums, but the newest will be Espanyol's ready in a few months. Bilbao is looking at a new one too, and so is Atletico de Madrid. Betis' is relatively new as well, as is Almeria's, built for the Mediterranean games, so has a track. In the region of Extremadura, which had teams in top flight but now have none even in 2nd division (previously there were Merida and Extremadura in 1st division), has asked to be included, as they intend to build a new stadium. Camp Nou was supposed to be redone but that has stalled, though I guess it will happen eventually. The Bernabeu feels quite new because of renos done in the last few years. It is fine. Basically to say you are not looking at any sort of investment that would not happen anyways, only maybe Valencia would have to think about something new just so the larger cities are all represented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Spanish president was just in Portugal and it seems they have not formalized, typical probs coordinating two national agendas. Not sure but in any case it is early still. Spain needs to redo a few stadiums, but the newest will be Espanyol's ready in a few months. Bilbao is looking at a new one too, and so is Atletico de Madrid. Betis' is relatively new as well, as is Almeria's, built for the Mediterranean games, so has a track. In the region of Extremadura, which had teams in top flight but now have none even in 2nd division (previously there were Merida and Extremadura in 1st division), has asked to be included, as they intend to build a new stadium. Camp Nou was supposed to be redone but that has stalled, though I guess it will happen eventually. The Bernabeu feels quite new because of renos done in the last few years. It is fine. Basically to say you are not looking at any sort of investment that would not happen anyways, only maybe Valencia would have to think about something new just so the larger cities are all represented. The new Mestalla's already half done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Spanish president was just in Portugal and it seems they have not formalized, typical probs coordinating two national agendas. Not sure but in any case it is early still. Spain needs to redo a few stadiums, but the newest will be Espanyol's ready in a few months. Bilbao is looking at a new one too, and so is Atletico de Madrid. Betis' is relatively new as well, as is Almeria's, built for the Mediterranean games, so has a track. In the region of Extremadura, which had teams in top flight but now have none even in 2nd division (previously there were Merida and Extremadura in 1st division), has asked to be included, as they intend to build a new stadium. Camp Nou was supposed to be redone but that has stalled, though I guess it will happen eventually. The Bernabeu feels quite new because of renos done in the last few years. It is fine. Basically to say you are not looking at any sort of investment that would not happen anyways, only maybe Valencia would have to think about something new just so the larger cities are all represented. The new Mestalla's already half done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-A Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 I was just reading on a BBC blog that England could lose out because there are a few European bids what I found interesting was the Blog mentioned Canada and China could bid before the Feb 2 Deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The USSF has called a presser for monday to announce their bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 quote:Originally posted by CanadianSoccerFan The new Mestalla's already half done Nice rendering, but far from being a done deal. There are serious changes taking place at the club, it could change board, owners, president everything in the next few weeks even. And the current economic situation does not encourage a huge investment that needs public support. Valencia has a somewhat corrupt public administration and these things go as they go, but I suspect they may stall a bit. Anyways, by the time of the WC in 2018 there is no question they would have something built to replace Mestalla, just that it is not amongst the projects well down the road right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Nice rendering, but far from being a done deal. There are serious changes taking place at the club, it could change board, owners, president everything in the next few weeks even. And the current economic situation does not encourage a huge investment that needs public support. Valencia has a somewhat corrupt public administration and these things go as they go, but I suspect they may stall a bit. Dude, it's half done already. Have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 quote:Originally posted by CanadianSoccerFan Dude, it's half done already. Have a look. That's an understatement. More like 80% done (its amazing how much work needs to be done before even the first piece of steel is erected above ground). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Dude, I am amazed, I was sure it had gotten stalled. I hadn't a clue. So fck me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 quote:Originally posted by amacpher That's an understatement. More like 80% done (its amazing how much work needs to be done before even the first piece of steel is erected above ground). Yeah probably. I just figured the roof will take a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 12 bidders so far with the joint bids potentiall changing after Blatter's comments: Australia Indonesia Japan Qatar South Korea Egypt (2022 only) Mexico USA England Russia Belgium/Holland* Spain/Portugal* http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7863406.stm I'm assuming Spain will retain its bid but drop Portugal. Will the Netherlands do the same or just drop out altogether? Assuming Blatter sticks to his word and joint bids aren't accepted, I like England or Spain for 2018 and USA or Australia for 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Prediction: 2018 to Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 England 2018; Australia 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfgarci Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 England II, then Mexico III England's the sentimental favourite, and has considerably fewer problems with racism than Spain and Russia. Mexico is going to quid pro quo with England to back them in exchange for Mexico's South American support in 2018. Added bonus: Not too far to get to either party from Toronto. Of course, I'll be cheering for Portugal, since Canada will have been eliminated in the opening round by Bermuda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfgarci Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 quote:Originally posted by jpfgarci ...since Canada will have been eliminated in the opening round by Bermuda. Oh, sorry. Twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by jpfgarci Added bonus: Not too far to get to either party from Toronto. Of course, I'll be cheering for Portugal, since Canada will have been eliminated in the opening round by Bermuda. I wouldn't assume Portugal will qualify. Especially in the post-Ronaldo era. [8D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by jpfgarci England II, then Mexico III England's the sentimental favourite, and has considerably fewer problems with racism than Spain and Russia. Mexico is going to quid pro quo with England to back them in exchange for Mexico's South American support in 2018. Added bonus: Not too far to get to either party from Toronto. Of course, I'll be cheering for Portugal, since Canada will have been eliminated in the opening round by Bermuda. Spain has racism problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by The Ref Spain has racism problems? No more so than USA, Brasil and South Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcl_19 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 quote:Originally posted by amacpher No more so than USA, Brasil and South Africa. I think what we're takling about here is racism problems specifically with regards to soccer. Remember theres been issues in spain with fans chanting racial slurs toward Samuel Eto. Im pretty sure theres some other examples but thats one that sticks out in my mind. Russia as well, although i can't remember anything specific soccer-related, I remember reading a story the year of the NHL Lockout that one of the black players who played there for that season dealt with a lot including things thrown onto the ice. Not soccer, but sport-related none-the-less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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