Guest Ed Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Article touting him as possible 'Canuck' for TFC states that he has not made up his mind as to which national team to play for. I thought he totally committed to playing for Jamaica. http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/TorontoFC/2009/01/12/7993306-sun.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 His UCONN bio says "Played with U-15, U-17 and U-20 Jamaican National teams in the World Cup qualifying games". Since he's 23 yrs old, he can't change his mind and play for Canada if he has indeed played with Jamaica in a U-17 or U-20 WCQ game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 ^I'm not sure U-17 counts as official competition? I thought Fernandes played U-17 for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone ^I'm not sure U-17 counts as official competition? I thought Fernandes played U-17 for us? http://www.canadasoccer.com/eng/players/profile.asp?playerid=33&sub=8&gender=male Fernandes never played U-17 for us. Fernandes played U-20 for us but never played a single second in an official game (U-20 WCQ game) for us. He was on the bench for us during the U-20 WCQ tournament in 2002. At the U-17 level when Fernandes was eligible to play for us, Wojtek Zarzycki and Dennis Kindel were the keepers in 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I'm pretty sure there is no hope that White could play for Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 He's only 'Canadian' for MLS roster purposes now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 there is no way he can play for us. he is not a canadian citizen and was only here for highschool. he played for jamaica in u20 wcq. he is over 21. its over. this is almost as bad as freddy adu saying he might still play for ghana after he had already been capped by the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 ^ Is the author that thick?? Not only does he call the player a 'Canuck Gem' in the title, he then goes on to say the Cdn national men's team is hoping to cap him. Some bull**** there no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 ^ Generally speaking, editors write headlines, not authors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I think he's pretty committed to Jamaica. I know this will elicit groans from some out there, but I was playing around on Facebook and found O'Brian White's listing. He listed as "UConn '09" and "Jamaica" as his networks. Without getting into the Facebook lingo too much, the networks you set affect how you are found, etc. You can only set one location network, and the guy has opted for Jamaica over Toronto. Hardly earth-shaking, but it shows you where his head is at about his ties to Jamaica. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Is O'Brian White even good enough to play for Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Is he even good enough to play for TFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 IIRC he played for Jamaica in the 2005 U20 Qualifier *against* Canada, in a game we won 1-0 on a goal by Ryan Gyaki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 quote:Originally posted by jpg75 Is he even good enough to play for TFC? if healthy, he is good enough to occupy a roster spot (if we carried jarrod smith's dead weight last year, White can find a spot on this team). Like alot of college players, he is a good athlete (or at least was a good athlete until he ruptured the achilles) but lacks polish. If he comes back at or close to 100%, he'll be a project. The question is whether TFC can develop someone like White. It's not like he is 19 or 20. He's 23. We'll see if they pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dare431 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 It seems that sometimes when I read threads like this they get me down. Young starlets (I don't know much about O'Brian so I can't comment on this directly) deciding to play for a country other than Canada. Wouldn't we be much better off if FIFA changed the international eligibility rules and limited the number of countries you're eligible to play for to one (birth country). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr if healthy, he is good enough to occupy a roster spot (if we carried jarrod smith's dead weight last year, White can find a spot on this team). Like alot of college players, he is a good athlete (or at least was a good athlete until he ruptured the achilles) but lacks polish. If he comes back at or close to 100%, he'll be a project. The question is whether TFC can develop someone like White. It's not like he is 19 or 20. He's 23. We'll see if they pick him. Sorry Dino, mine was a rhetorical question inserted for added affect [}] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Dare431 It seems that sometimes when I read threads like this they get me down. Young starlets (I don't know much about O'Brian so I can't comment on this directly) deciding to play for a country other than Canada. Wouldn't we be much better off if FIFA changed the international eligibility rules and limited the number of countries you're eligible to play for to one (birth country). That'd be worse, and unfair, and would render a whole stack of actual Canadians ineligible to represent their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Marc That'd be worse, and unfair, and would render a whole stack of actual Canadians ineligible to represent their country. I think it should be something like, you can play for your birth country, or a country you have spent more than half your life living in. So that means Whoregreaves could have played for Germany once he turned 32 or for England once he turned 52. Or Judas could have played for Holland once he turned 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 ^ As Marc said, though, that cuts both ways. Under that system, this year's IPoY, Tomasz Radzinski, wouldn't have been able to play for Canada until he was 32 (and, presumably, never would have at all). In the long run, the best way to keep homegrown talent at home is to make playing for Canada a more attractive proposition. This means structural reform, better LTPD, yada yada, so on and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 You should be eligible to represent any country that you are a citizen of, period. And, you should be able to switch. Yes, some Brazilians would end up being poached by UAE, but whatever. If it's good enough for the Olympics it should be good enough for FIFA. It's not like poaching doesn't happen now and under the current rules a young kid can be cap tied to a country only to realize it was an error later in life (blinded by the bright lights of, say, Holland only to realize that it's better to actual play rather than just be eligible to play). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 quote:Originally posted by MediaGuy You should be eligible to represent any country that you are a citizen of, period. And, you should be able to switch. Yes, some Brazilians would end up being poached by UAE, but whatever. If it's good enough for the Olympics it should be good enough for FIFA. It's not like poaching doesn't happen now and under the current rules a young kid can be cap tied to a country only to realize it was an error later in life (blinded by the bright lights of, say, Holland only to realize that it's better to actual play rather than just be eligible to play). It that were to happen, would we still have a team left to put on the field? I suppose that we would. But it would be the players that nobody else needed on their national teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroArrow Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 So the world cup would be filled with teams from the countries that could buy the most Brazilians, Argentines, Germans, and Italians? At that point, why not just change the name of the World Cup to Champions League #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 quote:Originally posted by AvroArrow So the world cup would be filled with teams from the countries that could buy the most Brazilians, Argentines, Germans, and Italians? At that point, why not just change the name of the World Cup to Champions League #2. No, it wouldn’t. There would be some players that would seek out glory elsewhere, but most would chose to represent the country they are actually from -- just like the Olympics. What I'm proposing isn't revolutionary you know. It's how pretty much every other sport in the world works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Free kick It that were to happen, would we still have a team left to put on the field? I suppose that we would. But it would be the players that nobody else needed on their national teams. How do you figure? How many of our current players are actually citizens of another country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dare431 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 quote:That'd be worse, and unfair, and would render a whole stack of actual Canadians ineligible to represent their country. What Canadians come to mind? I think of three off the top of my mind in Radz, Jackson and Begovic. Maybe a change in rules isn't the way (as I know it's not going to happen), but what can (presumably, in my dreams and sometime in the future a new governing body that replaces the CSA) they do to make these young players choose Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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