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Hey guys, I am the guy who threw that tournament together and everyone said they enjoyed it a lot. I am helping to bring all the futsallovers in the GTA together over the next few months to build a Super League (FIFA, of course) and bring the AMF people over to the bright side so we can get our national program back together.

Also look for a new story soon on the participation of Canada at the last Grand Prix in Brasiland how an elite club team had to pay the CSA in order to represent it.

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Taken from the OSA website.

http://www.soccer.on.ca/OSN.nsf/8ebd676 ... enDocument

TORONTO -- The first ever OSA Futsal Coaching Course wrapped up this past Saturday in downtown Toronto. Hosted by the Toronto Soccer Association, the course was the first of its kind in the province and showcased a huge demand for the sport of Futsal, which has seen rapid growth in Ontario over the last four years.

St. Mary's Secondary School was the venue for the course which was taught by Vasco Nunes, Chairman of the Futsal Coaching Subcommittee and holder of numerous coaching licenses in Europe and Brazil.

It was a pleasant surprise to find that the course was not just completely full, but also had a waiting list. Male and female coaches new to the game along with veteran Futsal enthusiasts came from an incredible 7 districts including; York Region, Toronto, Peel-Halton, North York, Hamilton, Huronia, and a truly dedicated group of 6 coaches from Ottawa that made the trek to enhance their understanding of this incredible game.

The day started off in the classroom with thorough explanations on the history of the game, its significant benefits to the soccer community, and its bright future here and abroad. This was followed up with a comprehensive review of the FIFA Futsal Laws Of The Game, the only list of laws that FIFA, the CSA, and the OSA will use. This had clarified some questions from various participants as the sport has often seen different rules being used in games across the province.

A strong emphasis on how to coach Futsal was detailed by Vasco as he taught the various formations, tactics, and with the roles played by players and coaches. These theoretical teachings were put into practice as the group headed into the gym to learn a wide array of drills and each coach was encouraged to be creative in constructing their own drills and variations while applying them in practice and game situations. The intense looks on many faces clearly showed just how intrigued and excited these coaches were about Futsal.

It seemed almost unfair to most that the course had to end in the evening as the hunger to learn more about the game was evident by all participants. Thankfully, future plans for the Futsal coaching courses include extending it to a two-day format and offering it province-wide during 2009 to districts and clubs that wish to host them There is also a Futsal referee program available.

The next major Futsal event is the 4th OSA Futsal Cup which takes place on February 21/22nd in Toronto at Hoop Dome and in Kitchener/Waterloo at RIM Park.

Futsal is a 5-a-side game that is the only indoor soccer supported and promoted by FIFA which has mandated to each of its members, including Canada, to grow the sport. Futsal is an incredible development sport for players having directly contributed to the skills of many famous professional soccer players including Robinho, Christiano Ronaldo, Kaka, Luis Figo and Ronaldinho, among others. It is played on every continent in over 150 countries and the FIFA Futsal World Cup has been growing at a blazing speed since its inaugural event in 1989. For more information on the sport please visit the Futsal section on the OSA website or simply go to Youtube and watch highlights from around the world.

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Hey futsal, as someone who follows the game in Spain (I went to a league game last Sunday), I am curious how the positions are taught in English. What are the names for the positions? Is is hard to teach the positional roles?

Another query: how do you teach the kind of circular movement of players tactically? I am interested as I can understand that it is difficult to grasp the idea that a defender could be in an attacking position or an attacker in a defensive position with such frequency.

One rule that I find hard to get is the back pass to the keeper, which I think can only be done as part of a defensive play, but even then.

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Hey Jeffrey,

That is really great you were able to catch a Division de Honor game. Which teams did you get a chance to watch? The atmosphere of some of those games is incredible and I hope to bring some of the guys from out top club out there on trial sometime this fall after the UMBRO Intl Futsal Cup at the end of August.

The positions in futsal, of course, are different because every single player has just as much responsibility on defence as they do on offence, meaning there is no really no such thing as a cherry-picking striker. The most offensive player is usually referred to as an "attacker", midfielders are sometimes called "lane players" or "offensive teammates", the back(s) are referred to as "supporting player(s)" and I have even heard int he US they are called "quarterbacks" lol. And the keeper is the keeper.

There are 4 main formations in futsal that are used widely: 2-2, 3-1 (2-1-1 or 1-2-1), 1-3 "carousel" and the 4-0 "roof". Of course there are more detailed ones but 95% of teams employ those formations

The English (England, Canada, USA) style of futsal isn't even close to the Spanish, Russian, Brazilian, Iranian and Portuguese level. Like I mean night and day in how they are taught. You'll know firsthand that Spain plays an incredibly structured system, usually a 2-2 formation. Whereas here in Canada/USA many teams think they're superstars and will try implementing a "carousel" a formation that teams like Brazil can only pull off because they're so technically sound. That involves having each player rotate aroudn the pitch and move the ball around, like a carousel goes round n round.

The keeper must throw the ball out and a player can pass it back to him once and then cannot pass back to the keeper again, unless the ball crosses half and then the option back to the keeper becomes open again. So you'll often see that when teams are down the keeper will come up and be the 5th man, much like a power play in hockey come up to around half to give his team an advantage. But this can lead to counter attacks and an easy open net chip.

Anyways I believe my essay is done so hopefully that helps you out.

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Hey Jeffrey,

That is really great you were able to catch a Division de Honor game. Which teams did you get a chance to watch? The atmosphere of some of those games is incredible and I hope to bring some of the guys from out top club out there on trial sometime this fall after the UMBRO Intl Futsal Cup at the end of August.

The positions in futsal, of course, are different because every single player has just as much responsibility on defence as they do on offence, meaning there is no really no such thing as a cherry-picking striker. The most offensive player is usually referred to as an "attacker", midfielders are sometimes called "lane players" or "offensive teammates", the back(s) are referred to as "supporting player(s)" and I have even heard int he US they are called "quarterbacks" lol. And the keeper is the keeper.

There are 4 main formations in futsal that are used widely: 2-2, 3-1 (2-1-1 or 1-2-1), 1-3 "carousel" and the 4-0 "roof". Of course there are more detailed ones but 95% of teams employ those formations

The English (England, Canada, USA) style of futsal isn't even close to the Spanish, Russian, Brazilian, Iranian and Portuguese level. Like I mean night and day in how they are taught. You'll know firsthand that Spain plays an incredibly structured system, usually a 2-2 formation. Whereas here in Canada/USA many teams think they're superstars and will try implementing a "carousel" a formation that teams like Brazil can only pull off because they're so technically sound. That involves having each player rotate aroudn the pitch and move the ball around, like a carousel goes round n round.

The keeper must throw the ball out and a player can pass it back to him once and then cannot pass back to the keeper again, unless the ball crosses half and then the option back to the keeper becomes open again. So you'll often see that when teams are down the keeper will come up and be the 5th man, much like a power play in hockey come up to around half to give his team an advantage. But this can lead to counter attacks and an easy open net chip.

Anyways I believe my essay is done so hopefully that helps you out.

Hi futsal, interesting, all of it. Appreciated.

I went to Barcelona Mobicat vs. Lobelle Santiago last weekend, as a Barça club member I get in free, went with my kid. About a thousand people in the stands, getting good crowds, maybe because they are playing well, in third overall, best season ever. Barça attacked, Lobelle countered, great keeping for the visitors, and a 2-2 draw. Javi Rodríguez plays for Barça, a premium world class futsaller and world champ with Spain, also the Spanish international attacker Fernandao. Here they describe the defenders as "cierres", like stoppers, the versatile players moving from back to front as "volantes", like an attacking mid in 11 a side, and then there is a "pivote", same name given to a centre in basketball. Often you will play without a pivote, in fact technically Fernandao is the only one on the team.

As you say, everyone in Spain plays with the carousel, good word. Very tough to handle, it is like a rectangle with players cutting across the middle to get open for a pass back or forward. Last night Spain played Belgium and the Belgians were very impatient (read fouling) with the Spanish style, which is possession, contained, and then a play for a shot. I don't know if stepping on the ball is really necessary in futsal, but it has become so widespread that it is almost standard here, every control is a small stomp. Another thing people need to learn is that the ball is very different, almost no bounce no. 5, heavy too. There are no high balls off the bounce in futsal, and that is good for the game.

My 10 year old kid plays futsal, with almost identical rules (they can't throw over the centre line and the keeper cannot cross it, the rest pretty well the same, including cards). And they set up with two defenders, two attackers, one who will come back more to help, and that is it. Defenders only go up to do the corners and out of bounds on their side, like outside backs in 11 a side. Rudimentary, and a long way from the concept of pro and international futsal.

Thanks for explaining the rule on the keeper, I think my kid must have a slightly different rule on that too, they can only play back to the keeper if the ball has been won back or as part a defensive play, they can't play it back if they have moved into attack.

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Perhaps your son is probably playing a mix breed of Catalonia or AMF style of futsal. It is highly popular in Barcelona and various parts of Central/South America and they are battling to fight FIFA for futsal branding, they will never win. Does he play with throw ins as well? That is a prime difference in the AMF vs FIFA systems.

Many different Latino players here use the pivot style (attacker holds up half and waits for the ball and then alligator traps it) pretty much what you call the stomp or 'sole trap' It makes it easier to push the ball forward or backward quicker or even turn the ball around in one motion. Highly effective in its simplicity.

I really am jealous that you can get out to watch the games in Spain. Your kid is going to have much better touch, vision and 2 way abilities as a result of playing futsal in such a high level country.

I am working with Montreal, Ottawa, London and Toronto leagues (both AMF and FIFA) to attempt a top tier FIFA league over the next 2 years and we have strong interest from London and Toronto but like the CSL logistical issues are making things difficult. We have solid talent out here, although not even close to Spain, Ukraine etc but we'll only get better if play better teams and if the CSA actually puts the money that FIFA gave them towards futsal. 25k a year for the first 4 years apparently is nowhere to be found now so we have a club team actually paying the CSA costs for the privilege to represent Canada, what a joke huh?

Are you living in Spain for a while or just temporary? I am planning to bring the best futsal players over through there sometime in September to give them a shot at signing with a club.

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quote:Originally posted by futsal

Perhaps your son is probably playing a mix breed of Catalonia or AMF style of futsal. It is highly popular in Barcelona and various parts of Central/South America and they are battling to fight FIFA for futsal branding, they will never win. Does he play with throw ins as well? That is a prime difference in the AMF vs FIFA systems.

Many different Latino players here use the pivot style (attacker holds up half and waits for the ball and then alligator traps it) pretty much what you call the stomp or 'sole trap' It makes it easier to push the ball forward or backward quicker or even turn the ball around in one motion. Highly effective in its simplicity.

I really am jealous that you can get out to watch the games in Spain. Your kid is going to have much better touch, vision and 2 way abilities as a result of playing futsal in such a high level country.

I am working with Montreal, Ottawa, London and Toronto leagues (both AMF and FIFA) to attempt a top tier FIFA league over the next 2 years and we have strong interest from London and Toronto but like the CSL logistical issues are making things difficult. We have solid talent out here, although not even close to Spain, Ukraine etc but we'll only get better if play better teams and if the CSA actually puts the money that FIFA gave them towards futsal. 25k a year for the first 4 years apparently is nowhere to be found now so we have a club team actually paying the CSA costs for the privilege to represent Canada, what a joke huh?

Are you living in Spain for a while or just temporary? I am planning to bring the best futsal players over through there sometime in September to give them a shot at signing with a club.

Hi, interesting. My son plays FIFA rules, to a tee, with those few exceptions I mentioned. I can only link to the rules in Catalan for you though, but believe me. All throw ins and corners with the feet. They also play four 10 minutes quarters, there is no clock stopping but the ref can add for obvious delays. All players on the team must play at least a quarter by the third quarter, so everyone gets to play and not just when the game may be decided. Another rule is that subs are only allowed in the middle of play in the last quarter. Time-outs are the same I think, two a "half".

The other day the coaches were saying that they don't teach the "ronda", or rotating carrousel, until players are 12-13, which is when a kid will opt to stay in futsal or make the move to 11 a side.

And yes, I live here. As you know there are lower divisions in futsal here, all the way down with promotion and relegation, like in regular football. So there are opportunities to find a team. If you wanted to bring a team over and play friendlies, measure the talent, I could set it up I suppose. As for signing, the only thing I do not know about is papers and rules for foreigners, but if someone has an EU passport of course.

Back to my son. Of the 120 teams playing school futsal in his age group 9-10 in Barcelona, his has made it into a championship round with 20 other teams. These top teams will let in from 1.5 to 2.5 goals a game, and will score 6-8 against average teams, so your typical 5-2, 6-1, though beating up on the really inferior teams (they beat the Italian school here, poorly coached, 18-3).

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quote:Originally posted by futsal

Hey guys, just a heads up that the Toronto Central Futsal League playoffs start this weekend. Here is the schedule.

http://www.torontocentralfutsalleague.com/futsalSchedule.html

Note that Toronto City is actually a team comprised off U Sector guys. They booked 7th place after upsetting a team 4-0 last week.

Thanks. A U-Sector team. How cool is that? Where is the RPB team? Keep us posted.

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quote:Originally posted by futsal

Hey guys, just a heads up that the Toronto Central Futsal League playoffs start this weekend. Here is the schedule.

http://www.torontocentralfutsalleague.com/futsalSchedule.html

Note that Toronto City is actually a team comprised off U Sector guys. They booked 7th place after upsetting a team 4-0 last week.

Thanks. A U-Sector team. How cool is that? Where is the RPB team? Keep us posted.

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