Guest Jeffery S. Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 John Kelly, who once posted here as minor soccer with sometimes polemical results, has set up a website called CSASoccer. It includes a longstanding question of importance to him related to the state of Alberta soccer management, as well as "inside" information on the CUSL, the CSA, Lenarduzzi. I am not in a position to comment on the veracity of details on it, and find it rather incomplete in some areas, though there may be some here interested in parts of it. You'll find it at www.csasoccer.info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Something's missing from that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. You'll find it at www.csasoccer.info. There is a period at the end of the url that shouldn't be there. Try this instead http://www.csasoccer.info/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Like Jeffery, I don't know any of the players featured on the website personally, so couldn't comment on the truth of any of the information. However, it does come off very much like the ramblings of mad man. A touch of editing might help make it slightly more readable and give it a more credible tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I smell crispy critters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 John Kelly isn't "john tv", is he? As SthMelbRed just mentioned, the tone does make it sound like, well, the ramblings of a mad man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCF08 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 quote:Originally posted by squizz John Kelly isn't "john tv", is he? As SthMelbRed just mentioned, the tone does make it sound like, well, the ramblings of a mad man. No , John has a dutch last name so it starts with Van... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 He's a douche bag. Anybody sees him on the street, run like hell. The guy is a walking law suit with the moral qualities of a coyote. Had more cases thrown out of court in Calgary than you can count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Ed He's a douche bag. Anybody sees him on the street, run like hell. The guy is a walking law suit with the moral qualities of a coyote. Had more cases thrown out of court in Calgary than you can count. But with so many Irrefutable Facts on his side, how can he lose? Probably the CSA infiltrating the judicial system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 With all the bad news, there's something recomforting about the return of minorsoccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 It is not a question of mad men or sane men, since most people in society would say most fanatical soccer fans are in the looney bin sector of society. It is simply a question of whether there is any merit, even half merit, in what he says. Since the CSA does not work and we all know there is incompetence at the highest level, futile infighting, egos galore, provincial mentality, if there is anything there that smells at all valid even if it is not expressed well I would like to know. Beyond the fact that the messenger does not seem to have a good reputation amongst many Voyageurs. I recall perfectly well the minorsoccer days, and remember his reputation for taking conflict into litigation, which seemed extreme and unjustified at the time. But I also know what it means to look at Canadian soccer and get irate, sometimes rather madly irate; don't any of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 There may be some truth in John Kelly's allegations, who knows. Unfortunately his manner does not foster empathy for him and his causes. He professes to be a paralegal by profession, hence his proclivity for lawsuits, futile as they may have turned out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I don't see what the big news/deal is in his claims. So the CSA (Pipe) got into bed with USL/MLS and killed the CUSL from the inside. Didn't we already know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 ^ Yes we did, but the CUSL idea was abandoned after a detailed study into its feasibility commissioned by the CSA from KPMG around the year 2000 concluded it would not be viable. The USL/MLS option was the only feasible alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Are there any articles or web pages that anyone knows of that could shed some light on the CUSL and its demise? I would be very interested in reading about it and seeing how they planned to set it up. I just can't take much on this site seriously due to its poor formatting and venting paragraphs. I don't want to dismiss the information as garbage, but at the same time it all seems to be fueled by bitterness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Richard There may be some truth in John Kelly's allegations, who knows. Unfortunately his manner does not foster empathy for him and his causes. He professes to be a paralegal by profession, hence his proclivity for lawsuits, futile as they may have turned out to be. The Message matters not if The Messenger comes off as a loon. Almost a voluntary, self-applied Cassandra Complex no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 ^ Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis_Rancagua Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 The last I heard of John Kelly as a member of the Voyageur messageboard was during summer 2001 under the old website...Wasn't this guy banned by the moderator of the old Voyageur messageboard for uttering threats to several members of the messageboard??? Anyway his story or allegation are not new, in particular with regard to the demise of the CUSL...We all knew that Pipe had a-lot to do with that...I've always been a true believer of the CUSL. I wish that the CSA and the provincial associations would implement its ideas in forming a semi-professional league under the umbrella of the provincial leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Well, let's see where this goes. Valid or not i'd enjoy the CSA trying to publicly defend their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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