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The funny side of this is that the CSA has already contacted FIFA to express their interest in hosting the 2015 Women World Cup (according to Joseph Blatter). My thoughts before this audacious dream are a follows:

1. Will by that time our women program had redressed so much that the only chance to participate will be to qualify as hosts.?

2. Will we be building new FIFA approved stadiums, rather than makeship temporary bleachers?

3. Are we going to have a half decent coach by then, or are we going to continue the laughing present situation?

4. Will we be able to win something and at least score a goal.

5. If the CSA has no money and the Government is not into sports, who the hell will finance the whole enchilada?

6. Where does this dream live our men's programs?

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quote:Originally posted by terpfan68

What are Canada's chances for hosting the WWC in 2015 in light of this statement from Blatter?

http://www.fifa.com/u20womensworldcup/news/newsid=955599.html#blatter+chile+have+2015+chance

I think he would like to have it south of the equator. It would be good for "marketing" the sport.

Look at Chiles stadia.... do you think we have any that match up ?

It also brings the game to South America where by 2015 Argentina will join Brasil as powerhouses, along with Nigeria and the Asians.

So the CSA is in pipe dream land, if it wants to make a real impact the CSA should sponsor a World Club Championship for Womens clubs.

Run the tournament between Ottawa and Toronto and have the various continents... Europe, Africa, Asia, Oceania, Concacaf and Comubol, six teams two three teams groups in each city play round robin of one game for groups then 3 v 3 leaving four teams A v A and B v B Winner v Winner and loser v loser.

But hey they wont think of it and get on on the ground floor with a new property.

Of course they could offer to run the Womens Beach Soccer or Futsal World cup for women... but they wont.

No Guts therefore no Glory.

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Chile just announced they will be spending some 110 million dollars to renovate 11 more stadiums across the country. This money is in addition to the 100 million spent to build the 4 new stadiums for the recent U20 women world cup. They also plan a major sprucing up of the main National stadium in Santiago. Their stadia could be a big factor if they go ahead with bidding for the 2015 women W.C. Now if they can only put together a decent women team, that can help draw the attendance levels required by FIFA.

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quote:Originally posted by The Ref

Chile just announced they will be spending some 110 million dollars to renovate 11 more stadiums across the country. This money is in addition to the 100 million spent to build the 4 new stadiums for the recent U20 women world cup. They also plan a major sprucing up of the main National stadium in Santiago. Their stadia could be a big factor if they go ahead with bidding for the 2015 women W.C. Now if they can only put together a decent women team, that can help draw the attendance levels required by FIFA.

The push by Chile is one of gettting the event to enhance tourism, its not about getting a decent team in place, but they will do that no doubt, its about the ability to attract tourism and economic growth.

The CSA has never understood that in terms of getting international events that will attract sigificant foriegn visitors, it never leverages the revenue stream from such events as planned ahead internationals with and official are carrier or dedicated charters flying into Canada.

As long as the CSA fails to work with business and allow profits to flow we wont be getting the government on-side to upgrade stadia in this country, and remember CFL field dimension allow easy conversion to soccer fields with out great cost for line marking etc.

The other push the CSA could make is to ident universitys with ambitions to have 20k stadia, so Laval, Dalhousie, Carleton, Queens etc. to work for joint infrastructure funding to built stadia right now as part of the incentive packages for infrastructure being planned right now.

Surely the CSA can get the BMO stadia plans adjust them for variations needed in different locations and in partnership with universitys in eight citys build new stadia. Or if the BMO version is to rich .. come up with a Saputo style stadia at 20k capacity.

We have to get on with some vision and its clear the BC cabal who runs the CSA has little if any vision for what is going on.

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The CSA needs to be run like a business by hardnosed, experienced senior corporate executives, not professors of medicine, insurance salesmen, professional bureaucrats and out of their element soccer moms. Until that change comes don't expect anything.

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quote:Originally posted by Richard

The CSA needs to be run like a business by hardnosed, experienced senior corporate executives, not professors of medicine, insurance salesmen, professional bureaucrats and out of their element soccer moms. Until that change comes don't expect anything.

Priceless truth...

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Yup, the CSA is nowhere near in the same league so we should not expect anywhere near the same results.

The CSA also needs to break free from the stranglehold the provincial associations have of every aspect of the association.

It all goes back to the need for major structural and governance reform as recommended by Deloitte in their 2005 report which the CSA BoD ignored and shelved like so many other plans and reports produced by and for the CSA.

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quote:Originally posted by Richard

Yup, the CSA is nowhere near in the same league so we should not expect anywhere near the same results.

The CSA also needs to break free from the stranglehold the provincial associations have of every aspect of the association.

It all goes back to the need for major structural and governance reform as recommended by Deloitte in their 2005 report which the CSA BoD ignored and shelved like so many other plans and reports produced by and for the CSA.

Maybe this has been published elsewhere and if so I apologize, but what exactly did the Deloitte report recommended as "structure" for the CSA and Provinces for that matter?

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Canada will be a very good position to host in 2015. Our stadiums will be adequate, plus we have the hospitality and infrastructure that fifa will be looking for.

What scares me is how the CSA might treat this. Anyone remember their last presentation for the women's world cup? It was terrible. Where I work if I gave even an internal presentation that bad on one of the projects I'm in charge of I'd expect to never be put in charge of anything again. It looked like they slapped it together on the plane. What was really painful was that it was obvious that they had just copies parts of their u20 presentation. I remember where they showed the map of where the venues it would be, and they used the u20 map, and mentioned that instead of Victoria it would be somewhere back east. They didn't even make a new map ... Complete crap.

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quote:Originally posted by The Ref

Maybe this has been published elsewhere and if so I apologize, but what exactly did the Deloitte report recommended as "structure" for the CSA and Provinces for that matter?

A copy was leaked to The BC Soccer Web anonymously a while back. You can read it here...

www.canadiansoccerfederation.ca/D&T.pdf

Unconfirmed reports suggest the CSA paid up to $100,000 for this report and has implemented almost none of its recommendations. The hiring of a CFO was planned for before the Deloitte report and some minor tinkering with the committee structure is hardly earth- shattering. They might as well have poured the money down the drain.

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Interesting reading and a total condemnation of how the CSA is structured and how it does things. I don't believe the CSA expected to get such a negative report. None of their directors will want to give up their cushy posts and frankly they probably don't know how to implement the Deloitte recommendations.

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^ you think it's just the CSA? Ever wonder why your taxes are over half your income? And you still pay even more at the pump, the LCBO, etc? For the great democratic socialist system? The one that funds our athletes like welfare cases? The healthcare system that leaves your 90yr old grandparents in line at the hospital for 6 hours? The education system that has your kids in class with 35 other kids with a teacher that barely knows their names?

Mediocrity, waste and bureaucratic standstill are signs of politics trumping performance. What a tragedy and waste when that happens in a national sporting organization.

p.s. if we couldn't make money at a U20 men's, how could we make it at a women's tournament?

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quote:Originally posted by terpfan68

But does the Junior Men's Hockey Tournament make money?

Well I sat with 16 thousand plus yesterday at the Slovakian rout of US... tickets 100 bucks each beer at eight .. yes the tournament makes money as did the U20s. In the case of Hockey Canada they know where the dollars go, in the CSA case its not clear who counted the money and night and if it was flown out of the country to some unamed Bank account.

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The lack of transparency and apparent direct accountability is 50% of the CSA's problem. If they were financed primarily by commercial sponsors instead of a tax on youth player registrations they wouldn't get away with it. No surprise they have trouble attracting meaningful sponsors and philanthropists like Greg Kerfoot operate outside the CSA, I wouldn't trust them with a dime of my company's money.

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I've always suspected the U20 made great money and that it was just somehow just hidden from FIFA and the taxman. But the joy of accounting is that without a forensic team, they only people who really know are the CSA upper executives and Event Management staff. Hopefully one day someone makes the exact figure public knowledge.

And just reading back to piltdownman's post... I had forgotten all about that Women's World Cup presentation. That really was horrifically amateur.

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quote:Originally posted by Richard

The lack of transparency and apparent direct accountability is 50% of the CSA's problem. If they were financed primarily by commercial sponsors instead of a tax on youth player registrations they wouldn't get away with it. No surprise they have trouble attracting meaningful sponsors and philanthropists like Greg Kerfoot operate outside the CSA, I wouldn't trust them with a dime of my company's money.

Very true, and especially since the backlash Greg Kerfoot has got from giving the CSA all that money.

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quote:Originally posted by Vic

I've always suspected the U20 made great money and that it was just somehow just hidden from FIFA and the taxman. But the joy of accounting is that without a forensic team, they only people who really know are the CSA upper executives and Event Management staff. Hopefully one day someone makes the exact figure public knowledge.

If I remember correctly, and I could be wrong, there were three big screw ups that put a big dent in their profits

1) They didn't have enough security and had to bulk it up at the last minute

2) The montreal organizing committee bought not approved turf and had to replace it at the last minute

3) The CSA had booked really crappy airline tickets for teams and FIFA family. Instead of booking direct tickets they seemed to have just found the cheapest tickets possible, with long layovers and other craziness. If I remember correctly most of those with crap tickets, just bought their own direct tickets and gave the CSA the bills

How one could screw this up on any one of these is amazing. Just goes to show me that the CSA isn't in a position to host a WWC. I think their best bet is to find someone with professional experience to run the whole thing for them. Someone like MLSE who knows how to run sports events would be a great pipe dream.

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