DJT Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Guidelines for this thread [*]In this thread post match updates on all Canadians abroad for November 14-20, 2008. [*]If you find updates posted in some other thread or on the other Voyageurs forum then post them here as well, but be sure to credit the original poster. [*]If there is news that is particularly significant (eg. someone scores a big goal, someone gets injured, etc.) then feel free to begin a new thread on that topic in order to draw greater attention or start a discussion, but also post that news here. [*]Some comments on news posted in this thread are okay, but let's not let this thread go off into a long discussion. If the news already appears in another thread (as per the previous bullet) then post your comments in that other thread, otherwise if you want to say something significant or if it is likely to generate replies then begin a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 From BBC Football's 'Friday Gossip': Middlesbrough and Bolton will fight it out for Deportivo La Coruna's £2m-rated Canadian midfielder Julian de Guzman. (Daily Mirror) Since he's available on a free transfer at the end of the season, this would indicate that a January move might be on the cards. If he's to go to either of those two, I'd hope for 'Boro. At least they occasionally play some decent football and have a young manager with potential to become very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Why would he even want to go to Middlesbrough or Bolton? That would be a lateral move at best, plus Deportivo are in Uefa Cup are they not? Unless he leaves Spain for a top team, i'd be very dissipointed. 2 Million pounds? I would figure his value was more than that? Didn't Freddy Adu join Benfica for that amount. I would have guessed JDG was anywhere from 4-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 The money and exposure is far higher in the Premier League than in any other league in the world, unless you're playing at one of the select few top clubs in Spain, Italy, or Germany. The fact that clubs would be willing to pay 2 million pounds for a player six months away from being available on a free transfer says a lot about the regard that JDG is currently being held in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 quote:Originally posted by SthMelbRed The money and exposure is far higher in the Premier League than in any other league in the world, unless you're playing at one of the select few top clubs in Spain, Italy, or Germany. The fact that clubs would be willing to pay 2 million pounds for a player six months away from being available on a free transfer says a lot about the regard that JDG is currently being held in. You hit the nail on the head. Deportivo aren't exactly a powerful team in Spain anymore. I'm willing to bet Bolton or 'Boro can pay Julian more. Plus there is always the chance of being coveted by one of the better EPL teams once you are there. Also, Deportivo being in the UEFA Cup this season is meaningless. How many times have they been in Euro Competition in recent years? They even had to qualify this year through the now defunct Intertoto Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack You hit the nail on the head. Deportivo aren't exactly a powerful team in Spain anymore. I'm willing to bet Bolton or 'Boro can pay Julian more. Plus there is always the chance of being coveted by one of the better EPL teams once you are there. Also, Deportivo being in the UEFA Cup this season is meaningless. How many times have they been in Euro Competition in recent years? They even had to qualify this year through the now defunct Intertoto Cup. Exactly, Middlesbrough and Bolton are the types of teams that players can really kick off at. Just in the past couple years, Anelka, Ben Haim for example moved on to Chelsea from Bolton. Viduka moved to Newcastle from Middlesbrough. Newcastle despite being losers are actually a big club and talented team. 2 million pounds is actually a bit pricey for a guy who can be signed for free come January. Basically paying 2 million pounds for not even 5 months of football from De Guzman. If he were on a say 4 year deal I think he could get 6-8 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 If he is purchased by either club they would sign him to a new contract. Also, come January he would be free to sign anywhere outside Spain with the aim of joining the team he signs with in the summer. Maybe 'Boro and Bolton are desperate to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 ^You may be confusing the issue with regards to the 2 million pounds. That money would mostly go to Deportivo, with a small cut going to Jules if he did not request a transfer. His playing salary is a seperate issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 ^He's talking about a Bosman. Julian can sign with anybody outside Spain on January 1. Boro would only pay the 2m to ensure they secured his signature before that date. It allows the club a better negotiation, without external pressure to bid up the contract. This might sound insane, but I think Julian would fit in very well with Arsenal. They need a box to box midfielder with a high work rate. He would be more than an adequate replacement for Flamini, who they are missing a lot IMHO. Of course, Arsene will only sign player who are 8 eight years old or younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack You hit the nail on the head. Deportivo aren't exactly a powerful team in Spain anymore. I'm willing to bet Bolton or 'Boro can pay Julian more. Plus there is always the chance of being coveted by one of the better EPL teams once you are there. Also, Deportivo being in the UEFA Cup this season is meaningless. How many times have they been in Euro Competition in recent years? They even had to qualify this year through the now defunct Intertoto Cup. You are right that he would probably be paid more in the EPL, but that is an unfair comment as he is still on his first and probably overly low contract at Depor. They will offer him considerably more to stay, I am sure, Lotina likes him and he is an important piece on the team. But probably not as much as he'd be paid in England. Depor has been a regular in UEFA and was in Champions years ago. Since they had the best end of season in La Liga last year, and this year are sixth, their prospects are good. Perhaps their new policy of modest signings and building young players will work. My view is that they are one strong striker and maybe another attacking mid away from a possible Champions spot as they are very well coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 neither move inspires me, but I'd agree that Mboro > Bolton. Bolton is not really an entrenched top flight team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 As a Canada fan, I would be disappointed to see Julian go to Middlesborough (the better option of the two) or Bolton. Deportivo, from my limited exposure to their play, is a far more technical side - as most "average" sides from Spain seem to be versus their English counterparts - and this recent qualifying cycle has demonstrated how few players we (Canada) have who can actually play a technical, posession oriented game. With Radz retiring, we are down to what, maybe five players (JdG, Hutch, Kluka, Friend, probably Imhoff and an aging Diesel), who can truely play a posession game against an organized and motivated team. Of course, Julian is a professional player and is certainly entitled to maximize his earning potential so more power to him from that perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Check out the actual piece from the Mirror. It claims Julian wants to leave due to racial abuse. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/11/14/middlesbrough-line-up-2m-move-for-julian-de-guzman-115875-20894141/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 also reported in the globe he could fetch 2.9 million US: http://www.globesports.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081114.wsptdeguzman1114/GSStory/GlobeSportsSoccer/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20081114.wsptdeguzman1114 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 San Jacinto Men’s Soccer second-seed at NJCAA tournament Amanda Booren - 11/14/2008 HOUSTON – The San Jacinto College men’s soccer team is the second seed in next week’s National Junior College Athletic Association (NJCAA) men’s soccer championship, hosted by Paradise Valley Community College in Phoenix, Arizona, November 20-23... San Jac is led by freshman Mozesh Gyorio (Stratford, Canada / Charlottetown HS) who has accumulated 24 points this season behind a team-leading 10 goals and four assists. Fellow classmate Gilbert Barahona (Saticoy, California / Central Catholic HS) has also scored 10 goals this season, and has three assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Rob Friend starting for Borussia Monchengladbach at home to Bayern Munchen. 0-2 for Bayern in the second, but ROB FRIEND SCORES a header for Borussia to tighten the game to 1-2 with 10 minutes left. Michael Bradley scores in the 81st minute to tie the game 2-2 and thats how it ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 quote:Originally posted by CanadianSoccerFan Check out the actual piece from the Mirror. It claims Julian wants to leave due to racial abuse. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/11/14/middlesbrough-line-up-2m-move-for-julian-de-guzman-115875-20894141/ I seriously doubt that has any basis. If Julian has made comments that he does not like to hear it, that seems logical, as most of the black players get it and hear it in Spain. Especially in some places, unfortunately in spots like Getafe, Zaragoza, Valladolid. But I don't believe he would choose to leave because of racial abuse, that is an invention of the English press, who are on this campaign against Spain, partially justified and partially fabricated, on the racism issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Ali Gerba starting for Milton Keynes Dons at Hartlepool, 1-3 win for MKD. Ali G plays 69 minutes and picks up a yellow card. 27' : A Gerba hits a good right footed shot, but it is off target. Outcome: over bar 62' A Gerba commits a foul on Gary Liddle resulting on a free kick for Hartlepool 67' A Gerba commits a foul on Michael Nelson. 67' A Gerba is awarded a yellow card. Reason: dissent 69' Milton Keynes Dons makes a sub: Aaron Wilbraham enters for A Gerba. Reason: Tactical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Josh Wagenaar starting in goal for Yeovil Town hosting Peterborough, 0-1 for the visitors. Josh was kept busy. 10' Josh Wagenaar makes a very good save (Parry) 11' Josh Wagenaar makes a very good save (Catch) 22' Josh Wagenaar makes a very good save (Catch) 25' Josh Wagenaar makes a very good save (Catch) 36' Goal!! Aaron Mclean hits a very good right footed shot to the lower left corner from the right penalty area (aprox. 18 yards) and scores!! Peterborough now leads 1 - 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Simeon Jackson returns to the starting lineup as striker for Gillingham who win 4-0 over Rotherham. Jackson goes 81 minutes. 45' Offside called on Simeon Jackson 52' Simeon Jackson hits a good left footed shot. Outcome: save 65' Simeon Jackson drills a good right footed shot. Outcome: blocked 81' Gillingham makes a sub: Albert Jarrett enters for Simeon Jackson. Reason: Tactical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklefan Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 80 minutes Rob Friend scores!! but his club is still losing 2-1 against Bayern Munich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklefan Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 2-2!! Friend didn't score in this one, what a game for Borussia Mönchengladbach, after losing all the game 2-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-A Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Just in passing Championship Barnsley 2-1 Watford Barnsley come from one nil down to win this one League Two Rochdale 1-1 Macclesfield (Dunfield) Dunfield starts and plays 90 mins Conference Premier Crawley Town (Rayner) 2-2 Cambridge Utd Rayner starts and plays 90 mins Scotland Premier Inverness CT (Hastings) 0-1 Hearts Hastings starts and plays 90 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklefan Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 2-2 the final between Borussia Mönchengladbach and Bayern Munich, beautiful goal for Friend, with a little bit of luck, he could have scored the 2nd goal. He has now 4 goals in 13 games played in the Bundesliga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Chris Pozniak starting for Dundee, Rhian Dodds on the bench as they are up 1-0 on Queen of the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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