Luis_Rancagua Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 According to MLS Rumors, Portland has submitted its submission of a formal bid to Major League Soccer (MLS). Vancouver has sent their mayor to MLS headquarter in New York to help the organizing committee in their bid to bring MLS to Vancouver. The deadline for application is due next week and the league is expected to announce the successful candidate cities in late November or early 2009. With this being said, I was wondering if Montreal is expected to step-up to the plate anytime soon. Is Joey Saputo in or out??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I`ve heard this about Montreal in the MLS last week. Richard Legendre who is the Impact Vice-President was asked by a CKAC guy (Jean-Charles Lajoie, I think) about the Impact jump to the MLS. Legendre said something like "not now". Montreal won`t join the MLS for 2011. I don`t believe the Vice-President of a soccer club would say this for nothing. It means that you can put Montreal off the board for the expansion to 18 teams. Montreal is not ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis_Rancagua Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Blackdude I`ve heard this about Montreal in the MLS last week. Richard Legendre who is the Impact Vice-President was asked by a CKAC guy (Jean-Charles Lajoie, I think) about the Impact jump to the MLS. Legendre said something like "not now". Montreal won`t join the MLS for 2011. I don`t believe the Vice-President of a soccer club would say this for nothing. It means that you can put Montreal off the board for the expansion to 18 teams. Montreal is not ready. Joey wimped out by the sounds of it...If this is the case, then I think he's a fool...Joey Saputo is all talk but no action, and I am very disappointed by his decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBeau Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Luis_Rancagua Joey wimped out by the sounds of it...If this is the case, then I think he's a fool...Joey Saputo is all talk but no action, and I am very disappointed by his decision. There was an article today (Oct. 7th) in the "Journal de Montréal" about Joey Saputo and his MLS bid...He is definitely IN! He was talking about how he thought that his and George Gillett's MLS bid might have an advantage over some other US bids because of the credit crisis, He also mentionned that he would not be surprised if there were only 3-4 serious bids (including Montreal's)and not 7 or 8 like mentionned over the course of the summer. People should stop speculating and creating unfounded rumors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by SteveBeau People should stop speculating and creating unfounded rumors... Welcome to soccer forums . Edit: Stupid JdM and no online edition worth mentioning. Anyone have more details on (or can scan) the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBeau Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Daniel Welcome to soccer forums . Edit: Stupid JdM and no online edition worth mentioning. Anyone have more details on (or can scan) the article? Sorry i read it at a café and threw it out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by SteveBeau There was an article today (Oct. 7th) in the "Journal de Montréal" about Joey Saputo and his MLS bid...He is definitely IN! He was talking about how he thought that his and George Gillett's MLS bid might have an advantage over some other US bids because of the credit crisis, He also mentionned that he would not be surprised if there were only 3-4 serious bids (including Montreal's)and not 7 or 8 like mentionned over the course of the summer. People should stop speculating and creating unfounded rumors... That is a pretty interesting comment! So bids as it stands would be: 1. Ottawa 2. Portland 3. Vancouver 4. Montreal 5. Saint Louis 6. New York 2 7. Atlanta 8. Las Vegas I think expansion is going to go something like this: one of: Vancouver or Montreal St. Louis or Portland Everybody else is realistically in a market MLS has no interest in at this point or are still a bit sketchy on the investment details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis_Rancagua Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 Can someone here please post this latest article with Joey Saputo's interview on the Journal de Montréal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 It there also a deadline for MLS to make known the final decision on expansion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Luis_Rancagua Can someone here please post this latest article with Joey Saputo's interview on the Journal de Montréal... Not online. Saputo mentions not going over 30m for expansion and possibly lower. Also mentions TFC can pay back their expansion fee over four years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouversoccerman Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by ray It there also a deadline for MLS to make known the final decision on expansion? The reports say it could come as early as the MLS Cup (Nov.23), or sometime before the start of next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Vancouversoccerman The reports say it could come as early as the MLS Cup (Nov.23), or sometime before the start of next season. MLS Cup weekend is very typical for these sorts of things, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Daniel Saputo mentions not going over 30m for expansion and possibly lower. Also mentions TFC can pay back their expansion fee over four years. It comes down to he who pays is in. $30 million even in these times is not going to do it because someone - at least two or three will be willing to pay the asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis_Rancagua Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Bill Ault It comes down to he who pays is in. $30 million even in these times is not going to do it because someone - at least two or three will be willing to pay the asking price. Would you think that Saputo is taking a huge gamble by playing this strategy??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Luis_Rancagua Would you think that Saputo is taking a huge gamble by playing this strategy??? Yes. Remember when Ottawa & Tampa got their NHL franchises? Hamilton had a much better bid, state-of-the-art arena (at the time), and an owner with very deep pockets (Ron Joyce of TDL) but tried to low-ball the expansion fee. Tampa and Ottawa did not balk at the expansion fee and, guess what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 These are very cheesy times and that kind of cheese is maybe a smell that Joey does not want. I guess a wait and see attitude and see which way this economic disaster develops. I hope I am wrong.I can't also imagine the US government bailing out MLS clubs ,so they are all on their own. Maybe he can't raise that money lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Luis_Rancagua Would you think that Saputo is taking a huge gamble by playing this strategy??? No because he is too smart for that - it might be a good idea to wait until 2012 or 2013. Why not? See what the economic fall-out brings to the league and things in general - it seems the league wants them and would probably be willing to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinm182 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The asking price should be $30M for the serious bidders (MTL, VAN, PORT) and $40M+ for the rest. Atlanta/Las Vegas/Ottawa are a higher risk and more likely to end up like Colorado/Kansas City/Columbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 ^ Won't work - say Vegas and Ottawa put up the 40 and Montreal and Vancouver put up the 30... who are you going to take when you've lost 200 mill plus over the years... I thought so. This isn't about soccer, fans or what is good for the game this is about $$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 ^ Won't work - say Vegas and Ottawa put up the 40 and Montreal and Vancouver put up the 30... who are you going to take when you've lost 200 mill plus over the years... I thought so. This isn't about soccer, fans or what is good for the game this is about $$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Bill Ault No because he is too smart for that - it might be a good idea to wait until 2012 or 2013. Why not? See what the economic fall-out brings to the league and things in general - it seems the league wants them and would probably be willing to wait. There are other negotiation points he could reduce his initial outlay for the franchise fee. US teams are getting millions in stadium for free, he would promise the extra 10 goes to expanding the stadium along with another $$$ of his own money. More seats is more $$ for MLS. Agree to 30 million stadium upgrades over the next 5 years and pay off the extra 10 million to MLS with the extra ticket sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I'm starting to think Joey's not getting in this round if he's going to play hard ball on the franchise fee. The competition's stepping up. Read what you want into this but MLSR got their hands on a bunch of memos and feasibility studies from Portland city hall. One says that Garber has assured Merritt Paulson (Timbers owner) they will get in this round as long as the stadium funding issue is sorted out. http://www.mls-rumors.net/2008/10/expansion-more-details-emerge-in.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis_Rancagua Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 What are the possibilities that MLS is willing to accept 3 candidacies (Vancouver, Montreal and Portland) all at the same time during the announcement at the end of November 2008??? Would anyone here on Voyageur consider this a reality or nothing but a pipe dream??? The reason why I'm dropping this idea into this debate is because certain people have been circulating this rumor on the Internet. Look, these are 3 important valuable markets that can not be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Could happen. My personal opinion is that Vancouver is guaranteed to eventually get in because of the stadium... but at the same time they won't get in for 2011 because of the stadium. Garber's going to say "we want your downtown stadium but no thanks to BC Place (renovated or not). Give us a call when the SSS is built." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 its going to be vancouver and portland in 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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