Vancouversoccerman Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Here's a question for Montreal fans...just out of interest (No malice intended). Obviously, you're in a position to win the USL title and still go deep into the Champions League. And of course, it's a given that you'd prefer both. But...if your roster was thin and the Impact needed to devote their best effort to one or the other, which would you prefer? The USL title, or a deep Champions League run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Well that's VERY hyothetical, since the roster is no where close to thin, but if i had to choose, Champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Well that's VERY hyothetical, since the roster is no where close to thin, but if i had to choose, Champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouversoccerman Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 Like I said...it's a hypothetical. But I am interested in which one Impact fans value more: The USL title, or a good CCL run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Vancouversoccerman Like I said...it's a hypothetical. But I am interested in which one Impact fans value more: The USL title, or a good CCL run. I'd think it'd be a no-brainer, but I could be wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MastaK Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Same here. I think a quarterfinal match of the Champions League is worth ATLEAST as much as a USL title in terms of importance for the club. And the international visibility we get by playing in the CL is way better than what we get in USL... Plus the games are more interesting because other teams come from different leagues...we never know what to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTL_4_LIFE Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Impact going deep in the CCL. So they can show the MLS they are ready and they can play with big boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltfc91 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Champions league is obviusly more important given the fact that they could win a continental title and play in the biggest club tourney of all... the Club World Cup. I think they should take it one game at a time though. They have the 2 vancouver games next so win that series... if they lose the next CL game so what.. theyre still in good position. Then win the USL cup and rest up players because now you only play CL games. To pick one though, just try in the CL. play literally team B against Vancouver and if they lose, a Canadian team is still in the final so im happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouversoccerman Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 The reason I ask is because the Impact are facing the same classic quandry some of the smaller European CL teams have if they get beyond the group stage of the UEFA CL (by that I mean club size, not country). A lot of fans prefer that the club go for the domestic title, because that's how they measure success. The long CL ride is just a bonus. Some fans are willing to forego the title for a shot at glory (as long as they qualify for the CL next year, of course... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Vancouversoccerman The reason I ask is because the Impact are facing the same classic quandry some of the smaller European CL teams have if they get beyond the group stage of the UEFA CL (by that I mean club size, not country). A lot of fans prefer that the club go for the domestic title, because that's how they measure success. The long CL ride is just a bonus. Some fans are willing to forego the title for a shot at glory (as long as they qualify for the CL next year, of course... :-) makes me have even less sympathy for the dirty Rangers last season than I already did [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Montreal has already survived the most congested part of their schedule. They will have plenty of time to prepare for their final 2 CL games. In fact, it could be argued they will have too much rest for those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I posted a survey on Impactsoccer.com two weeks ago 50% said they would prefer the CCL 16% said they would prefer the USL playoff 34% said they would prefer both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercanuck Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Would the suspensions be a blessing in disguise? 2 suspensions due to accumulated yellows (Grande and ??) and those players will be fresh for the play-off games against Vancouver. Are there players who might be suspended in the USL but will be ready for the CCL? This is the reason why MLS teams hurt. The roster sizes appear bigger in the USL (please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm too lazy for the research right now) and even though the salary cap is not there (in the USL) and the players may not be the big names, the depth of the team is balanced. It doesn't matter what line-up is out there, they all perform great. Look at TFC to compare. When Cunningham was in the team played one way, when Dichio was in, another way. The tactics depended too much on the personnel on the pitch. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't see the same thing with Montreal. Bravo Impact. Keep it up. Maybe one day we will see an all Canadian CCL final! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazzer Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I think the effort they have put in the CCL in the first three games will afford them the ability to rest their starters for the Joe Public game assuming they make it into the USL final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Suspensions (in USL and CCL) have indeed allowed Montreal to rest a few key figures. The fact that they also have pretty much 2 "full-time" forwards (Brown, Byers) and 4 d-mids (Leduc, Grande, Testo, Gatti) helps to limit fatigue. I think a quarter-final CCL game (and maybe more) *in Montreal* would do much more for the Impact's profile than a(nother) USL victory, although if we're this far, might as well play one extra game (the final). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Daniel Suspensions (in USL and CCL) have indeed allowed Montreal to rest a few key figures. The fact that they also have pretty much 2 "full-time" forwards (Brown, Byers) and 4 d-mids (Leduc, Grande, Testo, Gatti) helps to limit fatigue. I think a quarter-final CCL game (and maybe more) *in Montreal* would do much more for the Impact's profile than a(nother) USL victory, although if we're this far, might as well play one extra game (the final). I think its the same as Europe. CL success will raise the profile of the club, and will bring in the cash, but a league title is what the fans really want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 quote:Originally posted by MTL_4_LIFE Impact going deep in the CCL. So they can show the MLS they are ready and they can play with big boys. While I like your gumption, and I believe that the Impact right now would compete fairly well in MLS(as would the Whitecaps), I believe that if they get into MLS, it will not be a simple promotion whereby they keep all their players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 CCL run for international exposure, prestige, and $$$$$$. Also gives MLS something serious to think about in re: to this club joining MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 What would happen to Montreal upon their accepted entry to MLS? Would they have to make concessions of some sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubuntu Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Maybe in Europe they care much about the league, except maybe in Liverpool, but here we are in second division and the CCL is new thing, so I will go for a quarter final in the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by leafdolfan I think its the same as Europe. CL success will raise the profile of the club, and will bring in the cash, but a league title is what the fans really want. quote:Originally posted by Kurosawa I posted a survey on Impactsoccer.com two weeks ago 50% said they would prefer the CCL 16% said they would prefer the USL playoff 34% said they would prefer both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Vancouversoccerman The reason I ask is because the Impact are facing the same classic quandry some of the smaller European CL teams have if they get beyond the group stage of the UEFA CL (by that I mean club size, not country). A lot of fans prefer that the club go for the domestic title, because that's how they measure success. The long CL ride is just a bonus. Some fans are willing to forego the title for a shot at glory (as long as they qualify for the CL next year, of course... :-) I must point out we are already domestic champions though, the Voyageurs Cup, champions of Canada! To me I would rate the tournaments in importance thus: 1) Champions League 2) Voyageurs Cup 3) USL Championship It would be great to be the first Canadian team to pull the treble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Trident I was commenting on a CL run, not winning the entire tournament. If I were an Impact supporter I think I'd want the USL title over CL run. But I'd obviously want to win the CL over the USL, I just don't really see that realistically happening. The only reason I can see Impact supporters wanting a CL run over the USL title would be to gain some media attention and strengthen their MLS bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_FC_fan Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Play every game as if it's your last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 CCL for sure. I think this competition is going to be very good for our region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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