Calgary Boomer Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 When would you play the home game? Montreal is in Honduras on Wednesday. So, do you send them back home for a Friday game, or make them come out West, before flying all the way back for Sunday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Stats show that the 2nd leg at home is an advantage. You are always better off trying to solve the tie at home in the 2nd leg. Away in Montreal and home in Vancouver is better, it gives you a do or die home game next Sunday, if you pull it off you go to the final, if not the season ends. Also ensures a better crowd at Swangard. They'll probably choose to do the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 They did the opposite the year they won. I just think the Wednesday game in Honduras throws a wrinkle in the strategy because they'll be tired already. And if they eat any of the food, they'll be sick too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Calgary Boomer They did the opposite the year they won. I just think the Wednesday game in Honduras throws a wrinkle in the strategy because they'll be tired already. And if they eat any of the food, they'll be sick too. I doubt they could get any tired-er than they already are. (not a word, I know). Also, Montrealers can eat anything and not be sick, ever heard of poutine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You always take the home game last if you have the choice. Its a no-brainer. It would be like not wanting to have last at-bat in baseball. Montreal's travel is irrelevant. In all likelihood Saputo is paying for direct charter flights for the Impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Anyway for the Impact to do Mtl-Honduras-Van-Mtl or Mtl-Honduras-Mtl-Van, it does'nt really change anything. It's not an hour or two that will change the fatigue of the players. It will be up to Limniatis to decide very fast who will play and when and make sure those guys don't go to Honduras (or Vancouver) for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Keano Also, Montrealers can eat anything and not be sick, ever heard of poutine? That one is good!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Given the number of players and depth that Montreal has I don't see an advantage either way so take the Sunday game at home. It will give the field a couple of extra days to heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I doubt they care much about the field the at this point in the season, and anyway wich field are you talking about??? Vancouver or Mtl??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 Both fields are crap. Poutine is EXCELLENT! And in the paper this morning, there's evidence that Vancouver has decided to start the series at home! (More because they want a week of practice) But that's not 100%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 According to BxlBoy on Impactsoccer.com the friday game will be in Montreal, since he is one of the guys who runs the site he is a very good source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Kurosawa According to BxlBoy on Impactsoccer.com the friday game will be in Montreal, since he is one of the guys who runs the site he is a very good source. Confirmed here. http://www.corussports.com/soccer/course_titre_reprendra_vendredi-20080929-1197013.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Well that's good, two conflicting reports on the Friday destination. I've got a source who says it will be played at Commonwealth with the entire stadium sold out. They're going to scrap the two legs format for one battle royal. The winning coach becomes the new MNT gaffer, replacing Mitchell halfway through the Honduras game on the 11th. Idiocy aside, Vancouver would be foolish to play at home first, that is just giving away an advantage they fought to earn all season. Also, why does the USL not employ the away-goals rule like in UEFA competitions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto7 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 USLsoccer.com confirms that the first game will be in Montreal at 8PM: http://www.uslsoccer.com/schedules/2008/8588667.html No surprise here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanDouglas Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Stats show that the 2nd leg at home is an advantage. You are always better off trying to solve the tie at home in the 2nd leg. Perhaps this is true in Europe, when there is plenty of time between fixtures, but in the USL-1 with games Friday and Sunday, stats show that travel is a significant factor. Roughly 600km seems to be the critical distance. If the distance between cities is less than 600km, then the team that opens at home has only won the series 22% of the time. So if the cities are close, then you definitely want the second game at home. However, if the distance is greater than 600km, then the team that opens at home has won the series 57% of the time. And in the case that it's the higher-seeded team that has opted to open at home with a distance of more than 600km, then that team has gone on to win an impressive 82% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 quote:Originally posted by AlanDouglas Perhaps this is true in Europe, when there is plenty of time between fixtures, but in the USL-1 with games Friday and Sunday, stats show that travel is a significant factor. Roughly 600km seems to be the critical distance. If the distance between cities is less than 600km, then the team that opens at home has only won the series 22% of the time. So if the cities are close, then you definitely want the second game at home. However, if the distance is greater than 600km, then the team that opens at home has won the series 57% of the time. And in the case that it's the higher-seeded team that has opted to open at home with a distance of more than 600km, then that team has gone on to win an impressive 82% of the time. Those are interesting stats, Alan, I find them surprising. I am not sure about the distance factor, but obviously the typical USL Friday-Sunday double legs alter the stats since the home team is not really settled in waiting for the visiting side, the travel is not balanced. The visitors have travelled once and the home team twice in three days, and the home team second leg has arrived close to when the visiting team has, so that alters the 2nd leg home advantage. In any case I think you will find that 2nd leg at home is statistically an advantage not only in Europe but around the world, even in Libertadores where the travel can be as great as in North America. Where games are held midweek in different weeks, or even waiting two weeks. Indeed now that Europe has expanded so has travel in Europe. And 2nd leg at home remains an advantage, I think around 60-65%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I think Montreal and Vancouver aren't as bad as there are regular direct flights. Its quicker to get to Montreal than to Portland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 And a guy can have "FUN" in Montreal if ya know what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Kurosawa I doubt they care much about the field the at this point in the season, and anyway wich field are you talking about??? Vancouver or Mtl??? Both From 2 really nice pitches to 2 tragedies (one caused by over padded pointy ball sissies [xx(] ) I think Swangard could use a few more days. Light rain for Van on thur/fri/sat with a break on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Boy Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Heavy rain in the City today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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