RJB Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I've watched the first three games of qualifying and have been unimpressed with De Rosario. I was hoping other V's could share their opinions of him, mostly including whether or not you feel he has played his best with Canada - in these three games, or ever? My opinion is that he is overated. He can add to a game, but I believe that while he has a spot in our top 15, I don't think he should be one of the first names on the starting 11. My biggest concern with him has been his discipline. Against Jamaica, he was booked for a foolish shirt grab in the offensive zone that was totally unnecessary. Then, against Mexico, his deliberate handball grabbed him another caution meaning he will be suspended for the crucial game in Honduras. Two immature fouls. These fouls at club level would be worthy of a fine, so what will happen to hime with the National Squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Of course is over rated, otherwise he would have been in Europe already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 quote:Originally posted by RJB I've watched the first three games of qualifying and have been unimpressed with De Rosario. I was hoping other V's could share their opinions of him, mostly including whether or not you feel he has played his best with Canada - in these three games, or ever? My opinion is that he is overated. He can add to a game, but I believe that while he has a spot in our top 15, I don't think he should be one of the first names on the starting 11. My biggest concern with him has been his discipline. Against Jamaica, he was booked for a foolish shirt grab in the offensive zone that was totally unnecessary. Then, against Mexico, his deliberate handball grabbed him another caution meaning he will be suspended for the crucial game in Honduras. Two immature fouls. These fouls at club level would be worthy of a fine, so what will happen to hime with the National Squad? My guess: absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I had never been sold on him as a national team starter, however watching him live vs CR at BMO and in last years' GC he began to impress me! His form with Houston looked quite good, I was beginning to believe, only to be very frustrated this WC campaign! I share your opinion RJB about the silly fouls, he has looked lost out there! In fairness he isn't the only one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knottyleft Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 dE rO unfortunately plays at one pace, he just doesnt have that extra gear to get around guys and when he does he tends to slow it down to try and beat people one v one... his play this wcq has been one of the poortest thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 If he really was as good as his billing he would be earning much more than he does in MLS or playing in Europe. However I remain convinced that the reason for the poor performance of our MNT this time around is coaching. DM was a bad choice from the start, he just does not have what it takes in every aspect of the job requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinhaya Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I think DeRo himself would acknowledge that the first three games have not been his best work. It is fair to say that he has been one of Canada's most reliable players over the past 5 years. However, it may be time for him, Stalteri, Hastings, and Onstad to step aside and make way for younger players. I really wish Nsaliwa was eligible to play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 De Ro has been a victim of coaching this go-round. Playing centrally when he is best in a wide roving position. He has more than one speed, so that isn't a fair assessment. He has been a great soldier for the national team, and one of the top performers. Why isn't he in Europe? Only he and his family really know. Other MLS players have moved on compared to which he is superior. Those yellows he picked up were ridiculous though and quite childish for a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canso Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 DeRo scores pretty goals when the games don't matter, but in the pressure situation with the MNT he seems to put his head down and dribble into trouble...over and over and over. I'm sick of watching him. Glad he's gone, maybe the team will improve their approach play without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I see the knives have come out. De Ro didn't perform up to standards in his last 2 games but he is a rock in the MLS. He has had nothing but heartache from his early days and later trials in Europe. He is happy in Houston and has 4 championship rings, 2 playoff MVP trophies and a few other awards in his cabinet to convince me of his quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 quote:Originally posted by canso DeRo scores pretty goals when the games don't matter, but in the pressure situation with the MNT he seems to put his head down and dribble into trouble...over and over and over. I'm sick of watching him. Glad he's gone, maybe the team will improve their approach play without him. Could have fooled me last Gold Cup. He was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Kinda funny that prior to this round of qualifying, our big strength was our vaunted midfield ("the best in CONCACAF"), of which DeRo was unquestionably an integral part. Now, all of a sudden, he's just an overrated goof? Sure, his performances in the last three matches haven't been great, but for anyone to suggest that he doesn't have a place on this squad (and, unless something serious happens between now and then, the 2014 qualifying squad) is positively ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knottyleft Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 my assesment of him is purely based on WCQ he has contributed solidly to the CMT prior, wish he could find his form and pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 quote:Originally posted by knottyleft my assesment of him is purely based on WCQ he has contributed solidly to the CMT prior, wish he could find his form and pace Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symp_Res Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 It almost seems that the rest of the players were waiting for DeRo and JDG to put on a show, and forgot that they needed to show up and play too. Neither of them have played how they are capable of playing, and no one else has stepped it up. Maybe DeRo being suspended next match (stupid cards btw) will light a fire under the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 De Rosario was good vs. Mexico I thought. The only player who ever made a run down the wing all match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socmad Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 bottom line: if he is as good as people say, (such as kinnear, quote; "best player in concacaf") he would be playing in europe for big money already.....he's had tryouts but so have a quarter of the MLS... i don't watch him play day in day out for houston but apprently he's quite big in mls,...but we have to be aware that the mls is at best a third tier division so being one of the best in the 3rd division speaks for itself.... dero would never be able to play in La liga, EPL, Serie A etc so when he plays at the WC level, his inability shows as do the humes, hastings, etc....the only bonifide first rate players are JDG and Hutch, IMO. Dero is a one speed player like hume, peters etc who uses speed for the lack of technical ability.... but this mens team has come a long way and there's no way but up for the CMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 ^DeRo would be fine skill wise in the mid-table EPL or relegation battlers in La Liga. He's just too inconsistent. I also think he has a bit too much flair and not enough technique. If he had gone to Spain after his time in Germany, he might have been a superstar. As is, he's one of our better players of all time. I'd give him a bit more respect. One other fire Mitchell rant: does he even scout MLS? I mean, DeRo has scored some amazing long range free kick goals, yet we insisted on taking short free kicks even within striking range. And Serioux, why did he take any long throws? Insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 quote:Originally posted by socmad bottom line: if he is as good as people say, (such as kinnear, quote; "best player in concacaf") he would be playing in europe for big money already.....he's had tryouts but so have a quarter of the MLS... i don't watch him play day in day out for houston but apprently he's quite big in mls,...but we have to be aware that the mls is at best a third tier division so being one of the best in the 3rd division speaks for itself.... dero would never be able to play in La liga, EPL, Serie A etc so when he plays at the WC level, his inability shows as do the humes, hastings, etc....the only bonifide first rate players are JDG and Hutch, IMO. Dero is a one speed player like hume, peters etc who uses speed for the lack of technical ability.... but this mens team has come a long way and there's no way but up for the CMT Bull****. The best US player plays in the MLS. You don't have to play in Europe to be good in Concacaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socmad Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 no disrespect ..... but i cannot see him capable of playing in the top leaques.... i know his ability well because i played with him when he was with gs united in scarborough ....always relied on his speec at 200 mph...had some ability but limited....that said, i agree that he has been one of the best players this country has produced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socmad Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 in reply to ed: so what you're telling me is that a player would rather play in the MLS for a fraction of the salary that play in Europe.....monetary rewards aside, a pro player would always welcome the challenge of playing in the big leaques..... by best american player, you mean Landon....i saw him play for a german team when he was over there tryoing out but he just couldn't cut it...he really stunk...that's why he is back in the MLS getting paid 900K$ as the american golden boy....much like wayne rooney in england or Michael owen , the former english golden boy who couldn't cut it in spain at RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Landon did stink in Germany. He is still far and away the very best US player. He would rather play in California than some ****hole in England or Germany, despite the wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSamurai Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Ed Bull****. The best US player plays in the MLS. You don't have to play in Europe to be good in Concacaf. DeRo is one of the best if not best player in MLS. When he get's going he's a monster. Sure MLS defences suck, but he almost single handedly destroyed TFC when they went to play in Houston. Sadly he hasn't been able to do that thus far in the qualifiers. I hope he's able to change this around for the last 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 ^ We actually have 3 games left; mind you, 2 or 3, doesn't make a difference at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socmad Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 silver samurai,....that's exactly my point, he can destroy teams like TFC but cannot do much against the national temas of Honduras and Mexico....in soccer, you can only play as good as the opposition lets you ....let's face it, TFC is three quality levels below Honduras and four below Mexico .... yes , i have seen him score some amazing goals for Houston and I too wish he can show that sort of form in the 3 upcoming WCQ games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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