Javier Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 there was a rumor here in Bs. As, in some sport press agencies that said that Jose Pekerman was asked to take the canadian post. There is a rumor involving Julian De guzman, and Fabricio Coloccini , one of Pekermans protegees when at National Team and at youth level,.. Do you have any information about this ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Pekerman has been aproached in the past by the csa , DO YOU HAVE NEWS about this new attempt ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Don't tease us like this Javier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Where is your link, or where did you hear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB_Tito Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Don't do this to us,we are very vulnerable right now.Keep digging give us some more info,please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Pekerman was on the short list for the job as coach of Colo Colo in Santiago de Chile until just 3 weeks ago. In the end they hired Marcelo Barticciotto, who has just started with the team and is doing okay. So Pekerman's club options have dwindled and most sides are into their seasons already. In an interview in the Chilean press his technical assistant Nestor Lorenzo said that what Pekerman really wanted was a decent project, not just a short term job for quick results. Pekerman obviously would like some continuity, though he himself tends to be impatient and moves around too much as it is, I am saying this from what I have seen of him. I don't have a great image of him after he was given the technical director job at Leganes in 2003 when in Spanish 2nd division and he and the Argentine owner tried to turn it into a branch plant for Argentine soccer. That was not a good attitude, and then he was not allowed to coach as he had very little pro experience, only Argentine junior teams (not sure if he even had a pro license then). He has to learn a bit about respecting cultures that are NOT Argentine. He did not last long in Mexico at Toluca (2007-08) though did well, leaving citing family reasons. I think he has really limited international experience in spite of his age, and he may be a bit of a home body. I'd bet he'd even argue in favour of living in Argentina while coaching Canada. As for his job in front of the Argentine kids there is not question there, but we are talking about a totally different culture and soccer skills set in Canada. Pekerman has only been involved in coaching senior men since 2004 by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 THIS is the type of coach we want!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I guess my standards for happiness are now very low, but I remember thinking it was kind of cool to see DeGuzman shaking hands with his Deportivo teammates at the end of the Mexico match. As if we had at least one equal on the pitch. I would think a lot of managers would be excited to work with a guy like DeGuzman and his time in Spain could help bring us better managerial candidates. Who knows, maybe a few phone calls by a player could help arrange a bigger name manager. I have to kind of agree with Jeffrey in regards to Pekerman's management experience though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knottyleft Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 our kids can compete with anyone in the world up until around 16 this is the perfect technical director to ensure a winning culture beyond that stage, I would not really expect miracles on our MNT team from him, but as a 4-8 year project Id love to see what a guy like Pekerman would be able to set up on the overall makeup of our program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbrad Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Jamaica is probably calling him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Argentina played some orgasmic football at the 2006 WC. 2009 Gold Cup might be something special with this guy. And all hope of qualifying isn't done if we sign him, players will have renewed hope and opponents renewed fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Pekerman applied in 2007 before Dale was awarded the job. He was deemed to expensive. It would not surprise me if Sr. Pekerman is interested again, with the writing on the wall that DM is a goner. I just don't see the big thinkers at the top of CSA pyramid making that move at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I'd take that U20 Chile coach in a heartbeat right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I'd take that U20 Chile coach in a heartbeat right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 If Pekerman wants a project, then we should give it to him. But we might need him to bring an entire team with him. Canada not only needs a top-notch MNT coach, but needs to commit money to an entire coaching education project. If we up the quality of coaching at all levels, then we would generate a larger talent pool, translating into more success for our MNT, a World Cup qualification, and the cyclical growth would continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Maybe Voyageurs funds should go towards a coach? The fact that Pekerman is interested is VERY interesting. We need to get that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin in NS Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 It's the Association, lack of domestic leagues, dispersal of National Players, Concacaf foolishness that are also part of 'the package' any qualified coach has to take on also! Great money for any coach won't change the above mentioned things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Kevin in NS It's the Association, lack of domestic leagues, dispersal of National Players, Concacaf foolishness that are also part of 'the package' any qualified coach has to take on also! Great money for any coach won't change the above mentioned things. True. We do, however, need "great money" and lots of it to start fixing all of the things you mention, including coaching at all levels from the MNT down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 quote:Originally posted by knottyleft our kids can compete with anyone in the world up until around 16 this is the perfect technical director to ensure a winning culture beyond that stage, I would not really expect miracles on our MNT team from him, but as a 4-8 year project Id love to see what a guy like Pekerman would be able to set up on the overall makeup of our program I this line gets used a lot but can't say i agree with it. The main thing we have prior to that age that most other countries don't is a desire to see children compete on a large level for no reason. I've traveled quite a bit and I generally take the chance to watch soccer where I can. In my experiences watching kids anywhere between 10-14 in Mexico, Italy, and France in particular I can only descibe their level of organization and technical ability as superior. None of the teams i watched were from professional clubs and usually were on the low end of the spectrum in terms of the level of league competition they were in. If this was completely accurate, well a lot more kids would be going to europe to train at that age (even with the obvious passport and work related restrictions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 ^ my qualifier on the statement would be "our best" players can compete with the world up to 16. But as you say ag futbol our focus on results at U10 and U11 comes back to haunt us by the time most players reach this age and they have not developed the finer technical skills required to augment their physical ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Fair arguement. I can't claim to have scouted thes countries for talent or anything. I'm just saying that a random sample of a few different teams in each place seemed to augument some differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Similar to what Bill said; those countries you've been to would have alot more depth of talent than we do. Another thing, there just isn't enough good competition/teammates for our elite players to develop with and against before their teenage years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
closetboostie Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 quote:Originally posted by jpg75 Similar to what Bill said; those countries you've been to would have alot more depth of talent than we do. Another thing, there just isn't enough good competition/teammates for our elite players to develop with and against before their teenage years. I think that's exactly right. I'm sure that the top end players can compete with top end players from other nations. The thing is, not all these top end players pan out. The other countries have that depth where if one prodigy decides that girls, booze, and playstation are more important than training, another one steps in and takes his spot. Hopefully as more emphasis is placed on academies and high level talent development, we can close that gap of depth. I hate to use a hockey reference, but this is why Canada is such a hockey factory. At sixteen, thousands of players are funneled into the U-20 system and the cream rises to the top. We need that depth and competition, however created, here in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I speculated that a guy like Pekerman would probably ask to live most of the year in Argentina, or at least from November to February. My opinion is that given the activity in Canada in that period you might as well let your coach do that, unless he has kids in school in Canada he wants to be near to. Let him live where he wants in the Canadian "off" season, only require he stays on top of CDN players in Europe and maybe takes a 2 week trip to watch them play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Let him live where he wants in the Canadian "off" season, only require he stays on top of CDN players in Europe and maybe takes a 2 week trip to watch them play. Totally useless, if you're going to hire a name you want somebody to tour, lecture, teach, inspire and grow the game at the grassroots like Jack Donohue did with basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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